i am bjp man, i know 70% of the MPsin bjp is support the n-deal. its the time to change in bjp leadership. It should go to Arun Jately or some other energetic and highly respectable man. advannji please make way for young leadership. your black mark will hunt you forever and it will affect the bjp also
There has been a clear victory for MMS' image. He should now ignore promises, demands extracted by vested interests just before polls. JMM's criminal should not be taken into cabinet, nor MK's dtr. Note to SC on sethusamudram canal shuld be withdrawn. Entire ministry should be reconstituted with younger and more competant people, without preference for churchians. Then, they can do really well in the next few months before the elections next year.
do we feel,DR. MANMOHAN SINGH has won?he might have won at floor of the house but lost our sympathies.it is really very heartening to c our P.M. sitting and sharing floor with anti social and anti nationalist elements.Why U.S. rejoicing U.P.A. victory in' PARLIAMENT' not in general elections it is really shame on us.What U.S. is to do in our internal matters?i can think about other professional politicians and their political links with CHINA,U.S., PAKISTAN BUT for DR. SINGH no ..no
RE:[politics and morality
by viswanatha seshadri on Jul 23, 2008 09:12 AM Permalink
US is happy that MMS' win is a boost for democracies in the world. For foolish bengalis like you, party-dictatorships like china, army states like pak, monarchies like saudi are only important. 'Mukherji' stands for 'mukta-rishi', liberated spiritually perceptive leader. Mukherjis of today seem to be liberated only from all patriotism and good sense. Bad for bengal of tagore, vivekananda and aurobindo.
Now that the middle class has deserted its favorite party "BJP" in the national interest - LK Advani must be content to write his memoirs. Mahatma Manmohan staked his political kursi so our grand children can travel in electric cars and have power 24*7. A new middle class hero has emerged. I have gone through blogs and comments on all websites - this is for the first time I am seeing that everyone WANTS a government of 4 years to WIN...despite inflation and deflating stock prices. Congress has come a long way from a US bashing "CIA under every chair external hand " party to being pro--US and pro-reform.
RE:The ''new'' middle class party - Congress
by viswanatha seshadri on Jul 23, 2008 09:23 AM Permalink
Rahul Gandhi sincerely supporting MMSingh was a major fillip for the govt win, subtracting on sonia's churchian agenda. But, if she continues on her old ways and MMS is not allowed to recostitute ministry for better admn, the people will reject the UPA in the next year's election. Advani should also get rid of crypt-chr elements in the BJP/NDA who have been covertly guiding it to defeat. Eternal vigilance is the price for real freedom, success and progress.
RE:The ''new'' middle class party - Congress
by S R Ganguli on Jul 23, 2008 09:17 AM Permalink
Will you explain why you have withdrawn your actual name and used a pseudonym? What you understand by secularism. Are you preapred to call the USA a secular country which opposes non-Christians and where it is mandatory for the President to be a (Roman Catholic) Christian to hold that office?
RE:RE:The ''new'' middle class party - Congress
by S R Ganguli on Jul 23, 2008 09:21 AM Permalink
Also in Britain Church of England plays a very key role in the state affairs. Are you prepared to call UK a secular country? To remind you also Clinton was excused of his sin of debauchery because he confessed in the Church.
RE:The ''new'' middle class party - Congress
by Secular India on Jul 23, 2008 09:50 AM Permalink
UK is not a secular country and that is why it is in such a mess due to multi-culturism as it tries to balance between Christianity and appeasement of Islam. France certainly is secular and so are many European countries where belief in god is very rare. US is also not a secular country to the extent it should be as it is based on judeo-christian principles and was formed in the name of god - which is the christian god. We don't have to follow either.
RE:RE:RE:The ''new'' middle class party - Congress
by S R Ganguli on Jul 23, 2008 09:27 AM Permalink
Hello Secular India, are u there? Are you numbed? Answer my questions.
RE:RE:The ''new'' middle class party - Congress
by Secular India on Jul 23, 2008 09:52 AM Permalink
And you are wrong on the Roman Catholic bit - the Americans are Protestants and elect mainly protestants. Only JFK was a catholic. So I suppose - Mr Ganguli - your knowledge just shows.
RE:The good prevails
by Secular India on Jul 23, 2008 09:02 AM Permalink
c'mon - its OK to say you support MMS and congress. We have to take a stand one day. On one side are the regressive forces of the right taking India to 5000 BC and on the other side are the loony and unpatriotic Left parties.
The choice is clear - just look at which party has most articulate and educated leaders - and that is only Congress.
RE:The good prevails
by Sumeet on Jul 23, 2008 09:13 AM Permalink
Who told you that during 5000BC India wasn't a flourished place? Secular India my foot.
RE:The good prevails
by S R Ganguli on Jul 23, 2008 09:25 AM Permalink
The guy is right. Progressing with a run away inflation numbers and corrupion in high places, which would make Bofors pale into the background.
What a transformation for Dr.Manmohan Singh from a techocrat politician to politicians' politician. He was beaming and flashing vicotry sign before entering the Parliament House. As the session by session progresses, his chance of winning the motion became brighter. Advani and company were dwarfed speaker after speaker. It was first Pranab Mukherjee who blasted Advani, followed by Sharma and Praful Patel. Opposition was no match to the well prepared UPA members. That was on 21st. But on 22nd it was the turn of lawyer-politician P.Chidambaram to lambast the opposition with his characteristic remarks and his listing out the achievement made the opposition dumb and silent. Rahul chipped in but it was Lalu who stole the thunder.The icing on the cake came from two youngesters, first Owaisis of MIM and then Omar Abdullah of NC. Owasis' powerpacked punches of dragging the Muslims into the deal and Left failure to grant any assistance to the 29% Muslims of West Bengal exposed the Left to hilt. Then came the short but sweet powerful speech of Abdullah. He was an Indian and Muslim and saw no difference between the two to the thunderous applause from one and all in the House. He assured that no yatri to Amarnath would be hurt as long as Kashmiri Muslims are there. He would not forgive himself for not resigning during NDA rule when Gujarat was burning and Muslims were killed.He was sorry to have supported the NDA. He chided the Left for joining hands with BJP to topple the secular Govt.
RE:Trust Vote Win - Manmohan Singh stand vindicated
by Comment on Jul 23, 2008 09:58 AM Permalink
Congratulations to the person who said "Minorities, particularly the Muslims, have first right over the national resources" ... this, along with Amarnath, is a great win for minorities in 'secular' India!
RE:Trust Vote Win - Manmohan Singh stand vindicated
by nityanand sharma on Jul 23, 2008 09:27 AM Permalink
What r u saying great speach of Advani? Advani has lost his memory due to his age and frusteration of defeat. He said that "Nehru was ready to sign on NPT" where NPT came in 70s and Nehru died in 64. He said " I was not aware of releasing of terrorists during Kandhar plane hijack where as a member of BJP accepted that Advani was present in meeting when decision was taken to release the terrorist and Advani was Home Minister of India.
RE:Trust Vote Win - Manmohan Singh stand vindicated
by S R Ganguli on Jul 23, 2008 09:32 AM Permalink
Omar Abdullah may claim himself to be an Indian but he is Kashmiri first. Will allow for Hindus to be settled in Kashmir like China have done in Tibet?
RE:Trust Vote Win - Manmohan Singh stand vindicated
by viswanatha seshadri on Jul 23, 2008 09:33 AM Permalink
Omar Abdulla was genuinely nationalist in his speech. But Owaisi seemed to imply that moslems are entitled to appeasement in all ways, at the expense of hindus. A bit of aurangazeb in him.
It was also reported that MIM was given big money for his support. I would say that MMS saved the govt for india from churchian and islamic forces, just as guru govind singh saved hindu india from the aurangazeb type moghuls, 3 centuries ago.
RE:RE:Trust Vote Win - Manmohan Singh stand vindicated
by Comment on Jul 23, 2008 09:59 AM Permalink
Congratulations to the person who said "Minorities, particularly the Muslims, have first right over the national resources" ... this, along with Amarnath, is a great win for minorities in 'secular' India!
RE:Trust Vote Win - Manmohan Singh stand vindicated
by Rajesh on Jul 23, 2008 09:19 AM Permalink
We all saw the money floating in the parliament, my dear friend... And you say that Dr. Singh stands vindicated... His joining hand with the most corrupt Amar Singh shows how honourable he has become.. Even though Dr. Singh was always covered by Corrupt family and its self-centric politics(they assume that India is their kingdom),I always respected Dr. Singh --- but now after seeing all this , my respect to Dr. Singh is gone in thin air.. I lost faith in Indian Cricket after seeing those fixed matches.. and now the worst reality that the open bribery drives our parliament.. May God come to our rescue... We need new avatar of Parashuram or Lord Krishna to clean these evils.
RE:RE:Trust Vote Win - Manmohan Singh stand vindicated
by S R Ganguli on Jul 23, 2008 09:35 AM Permalink
Will Amar Singh answer he has gone to that position and amassed a huge wealth from his earliest position when he was a income tax book keeping clerk in Burrabazar in Calcutta?
It has been reported that Sahadevan KK tried to douse himself with kerosene (petrol is not affordable now) and attempt suicide.
Some of the rediff forum members rescued him, to keep the interest alive. He may not be around for a couple of days, though he still insists to do it via his chinese replica of a blackberry, we wish him a speedy recovery.
The Nuclear deal with USA is Needed and an Important one which has to accepted by all real citizens who live in this part of the world but this cross voting and money ruling is against peoples wish better india go for Presendential form of government becoz instead of electing 500plus dictators who all steal money one single dictator is better.
