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what a shame!
by super nova on Jul 23, 2008 11:21 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

BJP should be ashamed of itself for throwing so much money at the floor of the Parliament. Advani has completely lost his common-sense and respect. if the UPA had paid the BJP MP's the money they should have taken it and gone to the Speakers office & told the speaker that its time to take a decision. but all this has resulted in humiliation of India in front of the world. its the blackest day of our country and i'm ashamed of myself that i voted for BJP all these years !!

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RE:what a shame!
by vineet kumar on Jul 23, 2008 02:56 PM  Permalink
Abe yaar parliament me dikha hi diya to kya ho gaya......Boss there is no shame.....CD will disclose truth.

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RE:what a shame!
by Kris iyer on Jul 24, 2008 08:54 AM  Permalink
Super nova, A strange logic from you. "All right" is correct with his analogy of a husband's reaction to the rape of his wife. I am afraid, somebody may start calling you, "super novice", if your posts display this sort of logic.
Moreover, the Congress party has already humiliated India in a variety of ways. I am sorry, there is no more scope for India's humiliation by the BJP. In fact, NDA raised India's prestige through Pokhran II and National Highway project. That prestige has now been squandered by the UPA. Now the UPA are joined by arch humiliators of India, such as Amar Singh, Mulayam and Lallu - village maniplulators applying their techniques on a national scale. They have no vision for India that BJP has. They have only "wheeling dealing" dalals. They have nothing to offer.
You speak of humiliation for India. A working class, 8th std-educated electrician said to me before the Confidence Vote: "Sir, Congress will win the vote of confidence. To put it bluntly sir, if you do not mind, 'They will eat shit to stay in power'. They have always done so." This is a faithful translation of his words spoken in a southindian language. So, where does the humiliation lie. Congress and its behaviour is now very well-known.

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RE:what a shame!
by All Right on Jul 23, 2008 12:12 PM  Permalink
Super Nova:

You are like the typical Indian husband who accuses his wife for getting raped rather than apprehend the culprit.... :-)

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RE:what a shame!
by rajkiran on Jul 23, 2008 12:33 PM  Permalink
well said

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RE:what a shame!
by arvind nayak on Jul 23, 2008 12:54 PM  Permalink
why blame advani shouldnt people like amar singh the broker and sonia gandhi be more ashamed for trying to stay in power by fooling people

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RE:what a shame!
by mumbai on Jul 23, 2008 11:41 AM  Permalink
Advani has lost all his own control. he himself does not know what he speaks and how he acts.
his only thinking is becomming pm.
BJP should think many times before selecting his as pm.
It is really horrible to face defeat in front of Manmohan.
Which ever way they can allege the election. But his own people (not a coalition party) have ditched him.
This is the worst shameful event for advani. Please ask hin not to dream about pm post

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RE:what a shame!
by galilio on Jul 23, 2008 02:53 PM  Permalink
Bjp thinking that parliment election would be combined with state assembly elections during
oct 2008 in BJP ruled states like M P, rajasthan
chattishgar,congress ruled state delhi ect
announced unofficialy by selecting candidates
for 150 constituencies which half of them are new faces.this erritated old faces who will lose
their seats decided to make quick money and went
in favour of UPA.ofcourse we can not deny that
Bjp itself might have stagebacked drama to make
some MPs to abstain from voting to prevent mayawati talking a lightlight picture for P M POST and also Bjp do not want to give impression
to middleclass educated people that they are opposed to nuclear deal (brainchild of NDA)and
also they thought this is not right time as MMS
will get sympathy votes on non-issue matter as
BJP wants to defeat upa only on inflation reason
so BJP and congress are gainers in this while
mayawathi,communists,naidu are losers in the game.bjp has better edge becouse they showed to
television viewers the money bribed to their MPs
by congress/sp leaders which left a bad image to
UPA govt.


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RE:RE:what a shame!
by All Right on Jul 23, 2008 12:13 PM  Permalink
Yeah.... obviously it's because Advani has lost his own control that SP and Congress openly bought MPs in parliament.... :-)

Wow... what a theory.... :-)

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Cong asks: why didnt the BJP MPs they go the police
by Sudharsan on Jul 23, 2008 11:12 AM  Permalink 

LOL.As if the police would chargesheet Ahmed Patil, Amar Singh and start questioning Mulayam, Sonia, et al.

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GANDHI - THE BETREYAL COMMUNITY.
by popatlal on Jul 23, 2008 11:08 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies



First Mohanchand Gandhi
Second Indira Gandhi
Third Rajiv gandhi
Forth Sonia Gandhi
Fifth Rahul Gandhi

First three were removed from Hindustan by Hindustani only for BETRAYING HINDUSTAN. NOW????????



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RE:GANDHI - THE BETREYAL COMMUNITY.
by vipin mehrotra on Jul 25, 2008 08:55 PM  Permalink
Except Mohandas, rest are Gandhy, who cleverly changed to Gandhi.Gandhis are banias and Feroze gandhy was Parsi or some say Muslim.

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RE:GANDHI - THE BETREYAL COMMUNITY.
by Neil on Jul 23, 2008 12:14 PM  Permalink
what crap!!!

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RE:GANDHI - THE BETREYAL COMMUNITY.
by mumbai on Jul 23, 2008 11:35 AM  Permalink
your patriotism is great.
you desh bhakti is fantastic.
keep it up and go ahead to reach your goal.

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RE:GANDHI - THE BETREYAL COMMUNITY.
by arvind nayak on Jul 23, 2008 12:55 PM  Permalink
great the remaining will be back in italy where they belong and not rahul but raul gandhi

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RE:GANDHI - THE BETREYAL COMMUNITY.
by Bharat on Jul 23, 2008 01:53 PM  Permalink
History repeats dear,
1st pistol
2nd Automatic Gun
3rd Bomb

India is really progresing.

May be next remote controlled pilot less airplane or nuke.


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lot of sore losers
by Girish Rao on Jul 23, 2008 11:07 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

on this message board. WOuld advise them to carry on with their careers. Venting anger like this will lead to blood pressure and high stress lol

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RE:lot of sore losers
by reformer on Jul 23, 2008 12:25 PM  Permalink
HEY MAN, DO U WORK? MOST OF THE TIMES, YOU KEEP POSTING MESSAGES. FORGET ABT WHO BETRAYED WHOM. AREN'T YOY BETRAYING YOUR EMPLOYER WHO FEEDS YOU?

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Flesh bags(Indian MPs) wholesale.
by ananth K on Jul 23, 2008 11:04 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Condition: Used
Qualification: Knows to press color(only primary colors red/green/blue) buttons.


We bought few Flesh bags(Indian MPs) for pressing a green button. As we do not require them now, we would like to resell them.


These flesh bags are of no use to us. So it will even cost us to dispose them. Ready to sell at any rate.

No reserve. If no-one buys this bags, we will sell to someone who pays the disposal charge.

Cangress(I) & Samajwati party

Note: We stole them from the incapable owners including BJP, TDP, JDU etc......who do not know to select an MP candidate. We are sending parcels of Tirunelveli Halva for them

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RE:Flesh bags(Indian MPs) wholesale.
by All Right on Jul 23, 2008 12:15 PM  Permalink
Ananth K:

Every immoral traffic trader adheres to the principles you outlined.... :-)

Murderers will claim -- if you can't defend yourself, I'm right in killing you... :-)

Congressis will say -- if you didn't have the wits to throw us out in 60 years, we will loot you some more..

Advani will say -- if you couldn't defend Babri, that's your effing problem.... ;-)

So I can't really understand what on earth would you THEN have against BJP?.... :-)

It cannot be communal, it hasn't done anything that cannot be defended by your fantastic logic, and so they are spotlessly clean... :-)

So BJP's the greatest party on the planet, innit?... :-)

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A party will loss only if it betays the needs of the common man and the people of the nation on whole........
by shobana nair on Jul 23, 2008 10:59 AM  Permalink 

Promises are to be kept,and defeat is the result of jumping the fence lossing ones principles towards the nation which is looking forward for economic progress,and economic progress doesnot come of free one has to invest in energy making and new technology,work started now will benifit the future generation of this nation even if it takes time,the future generation can enjoy the fruit of the present decisions taken by the government in a rational manner.Suffecient energy produced can increase the speed a country progress.So here the losser is only the one who is trying to take the nation backwards forgetting the direction it has to take.

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RE:Please answer these questions for yourself
by mumbai on Jul 23, 2008 11:57 AM  Permalink
Very good questions. no one can answer to your questions.
you are genious.
keep it up.
let me try to answer some.
It is amazing to know 52 muslim countries. Still some more are emerging. India may also become a muslim country Insha Allah.
When you gain from haj subdidy you will not stop it.
collect all people and fight for that. let us hope you atleast win and people going hajj will go on their own transport accommodation etc.
read your own message.
your message implies that there is no special rights you have in India. Then how can you expect from others. shameful people will not get special rights.
What right you have to ask for pm post in other countries. you can not claim any right over other man's property.
read Quran and Hadees. you can find condemnation of terrorism mentioned in many places. Why you need fatwa on already established truth?
Cm comes elected. Do you need more clarification?
regarding the temple fund you should ask the god whom you pay this money.
Are you paying for the individual or tgrustee board. tell me honestly. you are paying for the god. you drop money for god not for any individuala or trustee board. just think you are paying fund to god. why dont you ask that god whom you pay money.
i think you are getting educated.


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RE:Please answer these questions for yourself
by SunriseHR on Jul 23, 2008 12:11 PM  Permalink
Dear Mumbai,
you seem 2 have lost your mind.....
its not you who is amazed that there are 52 muslim countries....we all are amazed to see that not a single muslim country is living peaceful nor allowing others,the government is not getting anything in return of HUJ subsidy....its a noble cause and most hindus & other country men are happy to contribute for the cause...i think you are very proud that all the politicians have been fooling muslims for decades...

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RE:RE:Please answer these questions for yourself
by mumbai on Jul 23, 2008 12:20 PM  Permalink
Do you have friends working in gulf countries.
If you dont have any visit an international airport and find out how many non muslims going abroad to work in muslim countries. Ask their opinion about their life there.
dont do noble cause and defame after that. if you dont want ask the government to stop the subsidy. are you not capable?
We never believe politicians. Believe in Allah the Almighty and feeling proud of that belief.
Who is fooled by politicians?
We know many politicians Jawahar lal nehru. He was trying hard bring split within muslims. failed.
next PV narasimha rao. do you think we believe politicians?

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RE:Please answer these questions for yourself
by MONICA SHARMA on Jul 23, 2008 11:57 AM  Permalink
Almost all CBSE schools have Ramayan and Mahabharat in their courses and its a compulsion or u lose marks. I have studied in a Catholic School till class 10 and we were never n I mean NEVER made to read Bible ...what ur talking is trash so please get your facts straight. And by the way the 370 clause for J&K is purely political not religious ...and all religions are thriving in India because India is not a Muslim or Hindu or Sikh or Christian state its a secular state ...so says the constitution please refer to it. And in India ie. since India was formed in 1947 no temple land has been snatched from us hindus though we had some other religious monuments being destroyed. And sir Praveen Togadia and Bukhari are both sick they cannot do anything else than giving provoking statements. These people just make hy while the sun shines and people like you keep dying and crying for them hindus and muslims alike.

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RE:RE:Please answer these questions for yourself
by MONICA SHARMA on Jul 23, 2008 12:00 PM  Permalink
And I just keep wondering why do u think Hinduism is so weak that it will vanish like this ie. if government gives aid to other travellers. Dont u believe in your religion...it has thrived all the way ...it has seen so many religions come in and try to destroy it ...but it has survived and that too with pride ....why so much of insecurity????

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RE:Please answer these questions for yourself
by mumbai on Jul 23, 2008 12:38 PM  Permalink
@Indra borna,
Vedas say that there is no image for him. If your "any form" suites with this you are right.
Vedas say it is wrong to pray man created things. you may understand this. if your any form suites with this you are right.

Name is not the concern pray The Creator, pray The sustainer, pray The Merciful .............


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RE:Please answer these questions for yourself
by Indra borana on Jul 23, 2008 12:27 PM  Permalink
monica hinduism & karmic (jain sikh buddhist) says


you can worship him (god) in any form if your faith is firm it is enough
other religions says

you have to believe in one god (named by that religion) if you dont believe in him you are doing blasphemy
idol worship is satan worshiping etc

this is the basic difference between hinduism ( karmic religions ) and others

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RE:Please answer these questions for yourself
by nihichsu on Jul 23, 2008 12:04 PM  Permalink
All your questions will be answered properly when we will have a pragmatic hindu government in India. For this, the Hindus need to be united on some common philosophical or social grounds. The movement has started since 1983 but has been hijacked midway by a section of BJP who are power hungry. Once this section is done with, BJP can become a pragmatic Hindu political party then people should vote this new avtar of BJP to an absolute 2/3rd majority whence Article 370, Common Civil Code, restoration of Ram Janambhoomi, Kashi Vishvanath, Mathura, etc. etc. can be resolved in parliament at one session. Right now the picture looks grim but have faith - read Bhagvat Gita where Shri Krishna has promised to mankind that he will come again to destroy "ADharma" and to establish "Dharma".

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RE:RE:RE:Please answer these questions for yourself
by mumbai on Jul 23, 2008 12:01 PM  Permalink
I also feel ashamed when you said AR antuley
your god should have walked out of the temple when he was made a memeber of vinayak temple.
Why he did have so much self respect as you have. dont you feel shame of him.

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RE:Please answer these questions for yourself
by mumbai on Jul 23, 2008 12:12 PM  Permalink
When you talk about muslim and hindu population in pak, bangla and India you are just following the politicians. you talk like them.
Feel ashamed of your self it is not the new truth now more than 60 yearsf fot pak and more than 37 years for bangla . teach this same to your next generation and let them also tell the same and so on.
Have ever analysed what happened to them?
how these growth and reduction took place. go out analyse and come with truth.

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Awaken India
by UMESH WALKE on Jul 23, 2008 10:56 AM  Permalink 

Its not about who won or lost the ‘Confidence Motion’. It is also not about whether India should go for the nuclear deal or not. Please understand it is not an India Vs. Pakistan cricket match. There is much more at stake than what a common man or for that matter even politicians with vested interests can imagine.
Both fronts, the NDA as well as the UPA and its respective allies, need to justify their stand to the country. The anti-nuke deal proponents need to explain why India should not sign IAEA agreement and if so what are the other best alternatives available. While the ones for it need to explain why India should sign IAEA agreement and how it is the best and the only option available. I think it is very important to weigh all options before taking a stand.
It is important for the nation as a whole to ensure that all options are explored and that the best and the most appropriate one is choosen. We cannot outrightly discard the fact that there are other options for generating energy, especially the renewable energy through the natural resources like the solar, wind, tidal and bio energy, especially consdering the country’s size, costal line and the fact that India is an agrarian economy with a high cattle and human population (for bio fuel). Many such projects are currently delivering positive and financially viable results in some of the most advanced nations including the US, Europe and the scandanevian countries. Under such circumstances India cannot discard the i

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HOW MUCH USEFUL IS THIS DEAL?
by JayBharat on Jul 23, 2008 10:56 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

If we start to construct new Neclear plants we take 10-12 years to finish. NTPC survey says by 2020 Nuclear energy is only 6% of our national energy requirement. It is even though we construct all the planed reactors.
What is our plan to dispose nuclear waste? It is more costlier than producing the energy.
From where do we bring the huge debt to construct the plants and to buy the fuel? Naturaly we are becoming more poor and our loan can not be returned in 200 years.
We have to stop R&D work on thorium reacters as per the agreement. This means that we can use the wast thorium ore resources in our western shores.
How do we stop undercover CIA agents sneeking in to country in teh name of nuclear inspectors?
Finally can not construct nuclear reactor indigenously till today. It is 100% russian technology. Now we have to import from USA.
One can not understand why this govt is in such a hurry to finish the deal?
Why they are not ready to go to people?


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RE:HOW MUCH USEFUL IS THIS DEAL?
by MONICA SHARMA on Jul 23, 2008 12:16 PM  Permalink
Its actually not government's fault or the politicos for that matter ...its the fault of the qualified brains who run from the country at the 1st chance that they get. Had they stayed here or came back at some point of time we wouldnt have been at this stage ...obviously we have to import technology which might have been produced by so NRI sitting overseas and minting money and still blaming politicos for our country's condition!

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