We Indians are busy debating whether N-deal is good for us or not, but what US is upto?.......why are they so desperate to make a deal even with minority government!!!!....... i dont think they are dealing with us for so small a profit as compared to the loss that will occur to them by increasing our(India's) resources. Remember that USA is always been anti India country.........even our enemies chinese dont have any objection on this deal............. something is not right......something is cooking which is lethal for INDIA..... please correct me if i am wrong......
We keep strategic reserve for Food Grains, Petroleum Products, and whatnots. These reserves cost a huge amount to the exchequer. This is for preparing ourselves against eventualities, even though these may never arise in a considerable future time.
Similarly we have to foresee the scenario when we may have a crises on the energy front, especially when we look at the pace at which our economy is growing. The supply of energy should have to be faster in order to maintain the economic growth. It is not half of what it should be.
The scenario of Energy Front MIGHT change for the better. The options with us are so many. But all these are not immediately available to us. With no solution at hand, we have to immediately plan for the next decades, when we would have a depleted coal reserve and no major new Dams around. Probably, we have no option but to go for an expansion of our nuclear energy capability, up to the day those non-convention energy sources will no longer called so.
We hear, "China won't object, France will support ahead of IAEA meeting, U.S. will do everything in its power to push it through very fast against time constraints," etc. How nice, suddenly we got great friends! What do these statements indicate? That the big-5 is very desperate to rope in India into a status of non-nuclear states, which will justify their forcibly dismantling India's nuclear facilities in the near future. None of these supportive powers agreed to making India a Security Council member. They objected fiercely. What India has today is many traitors and espionage agents at the highest and middle levels of the government working relentlessly to manipulate and intimidate the intellectual class. The common man as usual is bewildered by all this fuss. People like Dr. Kalam unnecessarily voice support to this deal. They do not have any qualification to do so. This is a national sovereignty, independence and security matter, not a technical or scientific debate. Dr. Manmohan Singh is not a decent man. After all, he jumped to the prime minister's post to work under a foreign lady. A real patriot would have refused to be subservient to a foreigner leading the country. For the Hindus, this deal is lethal. India will be permanently reduced to the status of Pakistan. You can say goodbye to any comparisons with China. China is a big power aspiring to soon become a superpower. India has to be very very subservient to China from nowon.
RE:N-Deal
by birendra kumar on Jul 19, 2008 07:36 AM Permalink
friend from where did u get that idea will be subservient to five great powers. It is a chance for India to join the ranks on equal footing. We are too big to be played around, It is 2008 & not previous century. Sign the deal, get the Uranium for functioning reactors, construct only required few new reactors, get out of the tech denial regime, harness the best available tech in the world with moneypower, we have. Reduce poverty, uplift poor people by giving them good jobs, & move ahead. Donot question about Sonia, everybody has accepted her, Manmohan is certainly better than Karats. Kalam credentials donot require your views. USA can't control its stooge Pak, what can they do about us. one odd voting doesnot matter. Iran has never supported us, they didnot even condemn the attack by terrorists on our Parliament. They should never be allowed to produce a nuc bomb. As of now we are a pariah in the world affairs. Get into the main streamline, world will have to listen to us. USA supported pak earlier as we were in the other camp. That camp has lost its existence. Russia, china & more than 20 other countries have similar deals with USA. So donot worry about carrying out another blast, which maynot be actually required. we have carried out nuc blasts twice, that much deterrence should suffice. Let India get into the main stream and become a developed ctry at the earliest, even this will not be before 2030 atleast though
Hi Krishna Kanth, first of all you need to understand that this deal does not stop India from producing the nuclear weapons. The other thing is India want power, which is need of every Indian. In my house we get 12 hrs power cut and guess that is the case in almost all villages. Look at the productivity of industries it’s gone down drastically in past few years. Look at the farming sector, every farmer need power, look at the terrible condition of farm and villagers. Guyes, as far as weapons concern, I don’t think it is the need of time. Today if India has any reorganisation in the world is not because of its nuclear capabilities but its industries, education, farming and economic growth. I do understand we need nuclear capabilities to produce the weapons but it is not the need of time. I am BJP supporter, it does not mean I can support blindly, need to understand micro economics of the policies. Also note no one in India is ready for election at present moment because of big issues like inflation, farmer death, poor monsoon, and poor economic growth. If BJP would have been in power, they would have been in favour of deal they are opposing it just because they want to be in government at the cost of poor and miserable people. The way Congress had handled the economic situation; I don’t think BJP can handle it. BJP was in power, what did they do? if you look at the performance of the governments, where BJP in power you will notice the difference, Gujarat- Godhra issue, Rajas
RE:Need of Time
by Gopal on Jul 19, 2008 01:12 AM Permalink
Please read my long post in 'Non-communal BJP? You must be kidding'
Listen the CNN news. See the time space they give preaching against nuclear energy. Heart of heart every country is against it. Then why should we go for that. Vehementally arguing for it?Capacity addition is necessary every country. But not at the expense of safety. After all the expected addition as per the deal is only 10% of the total installed capacity. I doubt very much whether we can achieve this target. 40000MW in 20 years. Remember it is NUCLEAR PLANTS and not multi storied buildings. Strongly feel there is a chance of second hand junks being dumped in India by this deal. Indian rule allows to import second hand equipments. I do not know whether there is any clause regarding 'nuclear waste'.
Congress aided with BJP/Rss media is projecting a false picture of advantages of nuclear deal ,However comman man has seen through this facade Comman Man has seen growth and development of left ruled states and he wants to embrace the same in India.Same mood is reflected in survey conducted by students of GAO LIN university in kolkatta ,When they interviewed 100 people in area around CPI head quarters 97 said they want Left rule in center.This shows support for the left in cities and towns of the country.No doubt in next election Left will rule India
FIRST OF ALL THE RELEVANT QUESTION IS, IS NUCLEAR ENERGY (AT THE COST OF NATIONAL SECURITY!) THE ONLY SOLUTION TO OUR ENERGY WOES?
WHAT HAS CONGRESS BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST FIFTY YEARS ON ENERGY FRONT? WHY THIS SUDDEN SPREAD OF CANARD THAT N-DEAL IS THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR OUR ENERGY WOES?
N-ENERGY WHICH IS ABOUT 2.5% MAY INCREASE TO ABOUT 5% (AS REPORTED BY US SCIENTISTS AND CAN BE VERIFIED AT THEIR WEBSITES) EVEN AFTER THIS MUCH PUBLICISED N-DEAL.
DO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY KNOW WHAT FORM OF ENERGY USA PROPOSES TO HAVE FOR ITS FUTURE? ..NON CONVENTIONAL ENERGY LIKE SOLAR AND WIND.
WHICH ARE THE COUNTRIES THAT HAVE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL IN SOLAR AND WIND? ...COUNTRIES IN AFRICAN AND INDIAN SUBCONTINENTS..
OF COURSE NUCLEAR ENEREGY IS GOOD FOR INDIA. BUT NOT WHEN THE N-DEAL IS DRAFTED IN ITS PRESENT FORM WHICH IS A THREAT TO OUR SECURITY.
THE CONGRESS HAVING FAILED IN ADMINISTRATION, HAVING FAILED TO STOP FARMERS SUICIDES, HAVING FAILED TO CONTROL THE PRICES AND HAVING FAILED TO CHECK THE RISE OF BJP, IS BANKING ON JUST ONE THING NOW. IT WANTS TO JUST DEFAME THE BJP AND ITS OPPOSERS AS ANTI-NATIONAL. BUT THE TRUTH THAT THE BJP HAS LAID THE FOUNDATION STONE OF THIS DEAL. EVEN IF THE CONGRESS ENTERS THE N-DEAL, THE BJP WILL GET ITS SHARE OF CREDIT. BUT THE CONCERN REGARDING THE COUNTRY'S SECURITY REMAIN. CONGRESS HAS FAILED TO RESPOND AND CLARIFY THE DOUBTS OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. THEY HAVE TURNED THIS DEAL INTO A POLITICAL WEAPON....
RE:N-DEAL....
by kiran raut on Jul 18, 2008 03:56 PM Permalink
Hi Krishna Kanth, first of all you need to understand that this deal does not stop India from producing the nuclear weapons. The other thing is India want power, which is need of every Indian. In my house we get 12 hrs power cut and guess that is the case in almost all villages. Look at the productivity of industries it’s gone down drastically in past few years. Look at the farming sector, every farmer need power, look at the terrible condition of farm and villagers. Guyes, as far as weapons concern, I don’t think it is the need of time. Today if India has any reorganisation in the world is not because of its nuclear capabilities but its industries, education, farming and economic growth. I do understand we need nuclear capabilities to produce the weapons but it is not the need of time. I am BJP supporter, it does not mean I can support blindly, need to understand micro economics of the policies. Also note no one in India is ready for election at present moment because of big issues like inflation, farmer death, poor monsoon, and poor economic growth. If BJP would have been in power, they would have been in favour of deal they are opposing it just because they want to be in government at the cost of poor and miserable people. The way Congress had handled the economic situation; I don’t think BJP can handle it. BJP was in power, what did they do? if you look at the performance of the governments, where BJP in power you will notice the difference, Gujarat- Godh
With 4-6 hour powe cuts and likely requirement of more power for ganga-kaveri link/ industries in future, why make so much fuss on nuclea deal? No body is opposing reneuable energy resources or hydropower generation or thermal power generation or indegeneous nuclear power generation. our nuclear power technology needs updating and also we need more fuel.We have to become open minded to obtain new technologies from abroad besides not closing indegeneous effort on thorium based plants . let there be competetion among imported technology as well as locally generated one. our nuclear power stations are working at 30% efficiency besides having fuel shortage. let us explore possibility of getting better support from USA/Europe which are far more advanced in this field because they can afford to spend fortunes on infrastructure/R&D/Manpower developement. Both DR kalam as well as DR Manmohan singh are highly patriotic/ sincere/most intellectual/knowledgeble and humble personalities. we should not cast motives on every silly things
when B/W TVs AND COLOUR TVS OR COMPUTERS ARE INTRODUCED , COMMUNISTS/ leftists AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR SCIENTISTS OPPOSED INTRODUCTION.SAME IS THE CASE WITH LIBERALISATION. NOw we can not immagine what fate we would have fallen on india if we followed them. Nuclear deal may also be some thing like that.Nothing in deal effects india negatively.WHY oppose?
Congress is in win-win situation. If the government falls during the trust vote, they can go to people and say that the left parties and the BJP are working against national interst as N-fuel is required to fulfil our energy needs. If the government wins, that is a clear victory.
UPA must be happy that due to all this, public's attention has been diverted from the dwindling economy, uncontrolled inflation due to rise in prices of all essential commodies and the falling rupee value. The ensuing elections would be fought not on these real issues, but on the basis of N-deal which, in either way, would have only marginal impact on the lives of people.
