third front is the best option for India.... Left, BSP, pappu yadav, sibbu soren should join in to make a strong 3rd front for the best interest of the nation... ppl of this country r tired of seeing BJP and cong rule the country
RE:thrid front
by rajesh s prajapati on Jul 17, 2008 01:47 PM Permalink
In what way would it be different from the other two ? There is a bigger paradox in the likes of Mayawati, Shibu, Pappu, Karat and Bardhan coming togather than even if the BJP and the Cong came togather!
RE:thrid front
by HARPREET Dhingra on Jul 19, 2008 12:03 AM Permalink
no third front is only made for money & power i think india these parties made only for states purpose left rule bengal is they are able to provide job everyone in bengal
Do the supporters of the deal really believe that once petroleum supply is scarce, we will start running veichles on nuclear energy? Or in case of decrease in supply of LPG, we will cook with nuclear energy?
What are we exactly shouting for? How is nuclear energy going to be a replacement for petroleum products?
RE:Nuclear to replace Petroleum???
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 10:55 AM Permalink
They are probably talking about the 67,877 generators in New Delhi that run on diesel.... :)
RE:Nuclear to replace Petroleum???
by starlee on Jul 17, 2008 12:36 PM Permalink
Kess .. nuclear energy can only replace the fossil fuel we needed for power generation ..here are some facts to chew on i look'em up in the CIA FACT BOOK as of 2005
Electricity - production by source: fossil fuel: 81.7% hydro: 14.5% nuclear: 3.4% other: 0.3% (2001) i hope u get what am trying to say here from above chart .
RE:Nuclear to replace Petroleum???
by kess on Jul 17, 2008 06:16 PM Permalink
well in this chart, as far as I understand, the "fossil fuel" is coal. Not petrol or diesel.
No one has time to pay attention for the bad side of this deal:
1- First US and other western countries make billions or mabe trillions in long term from this deal to repair thier ailing economies.(by selling nuclear reactors, fuels etc.)
2- Then they will make billions for cleanup for nuclear waste using thier technology and knowhow.
3-Thier intelligence will infilterate each and every department and thus get control over government functioning.
4- They will put a puppet regime who only cares for them.
5- Assasination of leader who come in thier way of stealing Indias wealth or who cares for India.
RE:We only see rosy picture of this deal.
by ramu on Jul 17, 2008 10:39 AM Permalink
This internet system has come from USA.Why yours type of Indians are using it.In reallity your type of INdians are prejudiced and follow anything negative and lead a fault finding life
RE:We only see rosy picture of this deal.
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 10:56 AM Permalink
The "zero" required to operate the binary systems in the internet network has come from India... :)
RE:We only see rosy picture of this deal.
by nimit patel on Jul 17, 2008 11:11 AM Permalink
is it fault finding??? bussy keep yr mouth shut and answer above quation if u know better option about that..
i can proive my data i can give facts from google and CII data.. u are jsut crying for deal.. i am from patel community and u know how much patels are living in india.. i am not aginast deal..
i am agaist the system,... which they are ignoring at this stage which is required.. which need to fight and in coming 2 yrs crude will amke country more and mroe foreign reserve debt..
why dont u think about that to buy crude u need dollars.. from where u will arrange it..
RE:We only see rosy picture of this deal.
by kess on Jul 17, 2008 10:47 AM Permalink
dreary but true. blind supporters of the deal will never see this, unles they are affected directly, and that would be too late.
RE:We only see rosy picture of this deal.
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 10:41 AM Permalink
You the prophet of doom? These are all speculation. It is illogical linking the deal with mass conversion, assignation of leaders etc
As for Western companies prifteering, the deal allows us to trade in the nuclear market, which is not the case now.
So we can aim to get a slice of this lucrative nuclear market generating huge revenues that can close our balance of trade gap which is increasing due the oil price shock.
RE:A Bhaiya DJ is speaking non sense on radio Mirchi. Kick his all. Jai MaharRaashtra
by Raj on Jul 17, 2008 10:25 AM Permalink
A Ghhhaatti president is in delhi... throw her out ..too :))
1) when we will get electricity from this nuclear dear ?? its 2022 2) How much cost we need to do for make 15 reactor and plant ??? its 25,00,000 crore 3) How much % of GDP for next 15 yrs indian govt will transfer for this dear ?? Yearly 7%...
4) Why US and Europe using nuclear power ?? because theya re getting sun light for around 4 hours at 20 degree tempreture for jsut 150 days a year..
5) Why india not requried nuclear enegry for power.?? because india is getting at least 8 hours sunlight for 300 days in a year and at 35 degree tempreture..
6) How much solar penal cost for getting 3 unit of electricity which is avg consumption of indian house hold..?? a person required 10 sq ft solar penal to get 4 unit electricty from solar energy daily.. and it cost around 70000.
7) If govt want to make 10 cr house with solar penals by giving 50% subsidy it means 35000 how much it will cost.. ??? It will cost 10 cr X 35000 Rs = 3,50,000 cr and 10 cr family means at least 40 cr people..
8) when u can get solar energy ?? next day from installation.. till next 10 yrs..
9) 3000 km long sea cost can use for tidle energy as well as wind farm..
why govt not looking at this things???
we are looking at 2022 but what ab economy when crude will be 200 dollar,..???
RE:we really want nuclear power???
by piyush kumar prasad on Jul 17, 2008 10:11 AM Permalink
Well said. Appreciate your view and it should be publicised more than 2022 plan of nuclear energy, hopeless. thanks again.
RE:we really want nuclear power???
by nimit patel on Jul 17, 2008 11:14 AM Permalink
abe are u mad???? 2022 is year.. after 14 years u will get started elecricity.. from new reactor.. today india dont have reactors and plant to generate power..
we had plant which are old and we had enough nuclear fuel for that.. i am talking year 2022.. not number of plant...
RE:we really want nuclear power???
by Balasubramaniam R on Jul 17, 2008 10:46 AM Permalink
Mr. Patel all this is easier said than done. Now just go out, do you see the sun? Just switch off the electric mains and start using sunlight for power. Do we use atleast a solar water heater or cooker, is it easily available are they efficient and maintenance free? Practicability of anything has to be thought of.
RE:RE:RE:we really want nuclear power???
by nimit patel on Jul 17, 2008 11:26 AM Permalink
k so u want to tell to built a nuclear station is easy and not a solar penal>??? today we are not using it because its cost 70000 rs .. if govt start giving subsidy to house hold and also they support corporate to instal plant for making penals do u think it is not possible..???
i think u are not watching discovery ever??? if u were then buddy u will not ask such a silly question...
RE:we really want nuclear power???
by nimit patel on Jul 17, 2008 11:48 AM Permalink
no but i am in MNC wher i am doing business analysis with competition from europe brazil and china..
and so i know why they are so advance.. why they are so much cost effective and why they are doing good growth...
RE:we really want nuclear power???
by Balasubramaniam R on Jul 17, 2008 10:49 AM Permalink
If this deal can get u Uranium from anywhere in the world Nuclear power production will double soon dont have to wait untill 2022. There is lot of misinformation and mininterpretations floating around.
RE:we really want nuclear power???
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 11:44 AM Permalink
Yeah... Nuclear power production will double soon... .
Everyone will be given 1 gram of Uranium .... keep it in your pocket, and light up your household... :-)
Just pulling your leg, by the way... for the phenomenal announcement made by you... don't bother to reply to this light hearted tongue-in-cheek humor from me
RE:RE:we really want nuclear power???
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 10:37 AM Permalink
Even in Gujarat, their power dependence is totally skewed on natural gas. Oil price has peaked and now will retreat. Speculators have identified natural gas for a bull run. So Gujus may need to actually invest and maintain a 10 sq ft solar panel to power their household needs. Industry etc will go foe a toss
RE:RE:RE:we really want nuclear power???
by nimit patel on Jul 17, 2008 11:27 AM Permalink
i think u dont know gujarati... thats why talking like this.. gujarati are able to do business from anything and that will be..
u can take reliance, amul, cadila, nirma, this are few companies who started from nothing.. and today theya re heading the world... because gujarati can see various option which u cant...
RE:we really want nuclear power???
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 10:14 AM Permalink
Who told you that we get power only in 2022? That perhaps are fresh capacities coming on -stream post deal.
India's already invested huge capacities that are operating less than 50% for want of uraniuum fuel and spares. Soon after the deal, we can increase capacity utilization rate to around 75-80% at least which means more power availability.
We are allowed to trade in the nuclear market after the deal. So we can aim to get a slice of this lucrative nuclear market generating huge revenues that can close our balance of trade gap which is increasing due the oil price shock.
Renewable energy is not commercially viable and besides do not provide high scale of power generation. Tidal energy etc remain experimental .
The very fact that MMS is looking at 2022 and beyond indicates he is a man of vision unlike Advani who cannot look beyond grabbing the PMs chair!
RE:RE:we really want nuclear power???
by nimit patel on Jul 17, 2008 11:19 AM Permalink
do u know indian power sector scenario ??? why are talking just this and that..???
indian is using 75% thermal power.. then comes 12% hydro power and then in other 13% nuclear and all other enegry..
even increase in cpacity will serve u jsut 6-7% in india..
and who told u that u cant use natural energy in commerical way??? right now indian house hold using around 48% electrivity.. and we can save that by natural energy ... that saving will help to carry on present energy to commerical...
70% of RJD, CPM, SP, BSP, JD MPs cant' read, write or understand english even their mother tongue. then how can they under this nuclear deal agreement.
RE:First educate them
by ramu on Jul 17, 2008 10:18 AM Permalink
But All Right is a china wala whose charactrics is whenever there is any slightest problem to muslims their vocal cord vibrate but if problem is of hindus then their vocal cord fail.But still they are secular.In fact pseudo secular they are and they are real enemy of India
RE:First educate them
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 10:29 AM Permalink
The deal is being termed anti-Muslim and yet I support the deal.
Ramu do you have any substantial contribution to a debate or all you do is to post insults and abuse. Why can't knickerwallahs engage in civilised debate?
