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THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE
by jackie gandhi on Jul 15, 2008 02:18 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I live and work in the US. I have close friends who work in the US bureaucratic circles. They are all laughing at India and the word going round is ' THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE.' They have fallen for it again.

Think about it: India has shown the world what we can rise so fast and so strong without being subservient. And now having proven it we are giving it all away to the Americans.

Strange isn't it. How the Americans have used the oldest trick in the book - DIVIDE and RULE. They have done it in all the 131 countries where they have troops stationed. THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE is what the Americans are saying.. Just think about it... I am Indian too and I cry when I see how right they are.

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RE:THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE
by Bonaventure on Jul 15, 2008 02:25 PM  Permalink
So very true .. I'm surprised you have still survived with the American culture of divide and rule and earn your bread there.



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RE:THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE
by sweeto t on Jul 15, 2008 08:12 PM  Permalink
MR. Jackie Gandh,

If you hate America, then do you know the fact that the IT sector which is booming till now is because of the work the US is willing to send to India and China. There are lot of patriotic Indians working in these areas which may be sharing your intelect and hatred towards Amarica, but still work for their contract jobs or for their company projects and get handsomely paid. That money the US companies spend out of their pocket these ppl who share your view point for America will go back to their respective homes and eat and drink with that earned money.

I suggest these ppl to forgo the money and urge the country that do not accept the work which is from US but do whatever is available in India.

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RE:THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE
by jackie gandhi on Jul 15, 2008 02:20 PM  Permalink
Jackie...you are so right....I am in London and that that is exactly what the British are saying. They are using the Americans as a front to re-establish control over India... And Manmohan Singh has fallen for it hook line and sinker.

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RE:RE:THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:26 PM  Permalink
*is your real name amol or what ?

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RE:RE:THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 15, 2008 02:26 PM  Permalink
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Americans are "dividing" India and would "rule".

Please elaborate what British say beyond this sentence to justify their argument.

[ Kindly give the exact version that your British friends are talking about. Please do not use your own interpretation.]

We are really curious.

[ I live in India. ]

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RE:THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE
by Ramesh on Jul 15, 2008 02:33 PM  Permalink
Jackie!!! right now where are you, in America ? Or in London!!!! What's the time now?

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RE:THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 15, 2008 02:31 PM  Permalink
Jackie [lives in USA] saying " Jackie...you are so right....I am in London...]

You are right Jackie.

We Indians are stupid and dumb.

Howelse, would you reply to your own posting like that?

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RE:THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:25 PM  Permalink
jackie replying to jackie ha ha. Is amol your real name or what ?

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RE:THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 15, 2008 02:24 PM  Permalink
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Americans are "dividing" India and would "rule".

Please elaborate what Americans say beyond this sentence to justify their argument.

[ Kindly give the exact version that your American friends are talking about. Please do not use your interpretation.]

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RE:RE:THE STUPID INDIAN PEOPLE
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:25 PM  Permalink
he is a kid just ignore him or play with him. He does not know anything about anything. He knows nothing about everything lol

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Lefts can always apologise...may be for this N-deal too
by Nitesh Nanda on Jul 15, 2008 02:02 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Its funny to see the famous so-called Think-Tanks of CPM/I ,RJD etc.. commiting blunders one after another and still has the guts to apologize to wht ever they had done in the past-for Tractors,for Privitization, for GLobalization,for opening of foriegn co. and investement...and finally for computers even.Until this moment wht ever Mr.Singh has envisioned has come to the benefit of people..as always I know there are chaps who still think that the age before all these advancements and tech. was good..Let us find a solution to this severe power shortage so that new co. and investements come here..Last day even IMF has rated India just below Afgainistan..Communists are still in that idiotic and utopian world ..Take a trip to China, dear Comrades.. and pls dont come back

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RE:Lefts can always apologise...may be for this N-deal too
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:11 PM  Permalink
even the Chinese wouldn't want them . These pinkoes create air-pollution whenever they open their mouth to talk.

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deal
by Robert Spice on Jul 15, 2008 01:58 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

When government says no draft can be shown to person not in govt. or to oppossition parties. Where as drafts made available by third party on the internet. Again govt. is not giving details of draft 123 agrrement or hyde act to our countrymen and will be open to US congressmen when draft go for US senate and congress approval. Government making fool to poor Indians. If their are nothing to hide and a deal going to effect future of India in better way or worst way, than it must be known to all affected country men. President kalam says deal is good for country but he neveracertain the future losses to country since he himself is not know about implication of deal as draft is hidden atleast to Indians. People are abusing BJP, but all must know that Govt. never talk to them and address their concern accross the table. What congress leader responses them through media.

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RE:deal
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 15, 2008 02:19 PM  Permalink
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* The document "is" available on the rediff site.

* BJP and Left have been briefed properly. After that Mr Vajpayee had supported the deal. But later he was shut up by Mr Advani.



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RE:deal
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 12:02 PM  Permalink
:)
Thanks for giving us your version too...;-)

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RE:deal
by Manoj Thomas on Jul 15, 2008 02:07 PM  Permalink
Mr.Robert,
Did you make out your official secrets to the public or your family members?

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Communists in India are rich man's party. They spread red carpet to capitalists and take bribes in crores from them
by URMILA NATARAJAN on Jul 15, 2008 01:44 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Desabhimani is the mouth piece of Commie in Kerala. Its MD has taken 2 crore bribe from one enterprenuer. The Kairali channel, another communist TV channel has 4 different channels in Kerala. Where from they get these money?

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RE:Communists in India are rich man's party. They spread red carpet to capitalists and take bribes in crores from them
by ravi sekhar on Jul 15, 2008 01:49 PM  Permalink
u r right Urmi!

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RE:Communists in India are rich man's party. They spread red carpet to capitalists and take bribes in crores from them
by PKN on Jul 15, 2008 01:59 PM  Permalink
Did you discover this only today ?
Every political party in Kerala is totally corrupt ! The only difference is in the justifaction that they give for thier deeds .

1. The Congress will loot the state in the name of national interest - they also have a TV channel called Jai Hind !
2. The good commies are better . They have a 4 channels . Or course they are doing it in the name of the working classes.
3. The Muslim League , in the name of the oppressed minorities also runs a Channel aptly called Indiavision.
4. Dont worry the Sangh Parivar catch up soon .
This can happen only in Kerala since the Mallus are literate fools!
PS : A man who peddles fake lottery tickets is not called a " enterprenuer" he is called "Con- man" !

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RE:Communists in India are rich man's party. They spread red carpet to capitalists and take bribes in crores from them
by bency mohan gopalakrishnan on Jul 15, 2008 02:03 PM  Permalink
You are surely not from Kerala..
otherwise you must know the fact that Kairali TV is run by more than 50,000 share holders.The share holders are party members & supporters,with each share cost Rs.1000/- at the beginning.
It is a people's channel, run by party members.

And about Deshabhimani 'MD' taking bribe...
Deshanbhimani collected credit bonds from Public in 2005 as part of it's expansion programme.Any body can buy the bond & they will get that amount back with profit share after specified years.
One company buyed bonds worth 2 crore.
Where is bribary comes in it???

Kerala CPM is strong with more than 30 lac membership.It is very easy for them to collect money from their members,for such purposes.

Just check the amounts donated by Ambani's in last election to various political parties(as per parlament records)
Congress - 3.4 crores,
BJP - 2.8 crores,
SP - 2 crores
BSP - 1.8 crores
RJD - 1.6 crores

The only national parties which didnot accept donation from Ambanis are CPI & CPM.

Now say who is rich man's party?

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RE:Communists in India are rich man's party. They spread red carpet to capitalists and take bribes in crores from them
by Ajikumar Achary on Jul 15, 2008 02:42 PM  Permalink
dear bency,
people r not against selling bonds by ur news paper. then, why u returned the money. after public understood d thing.u like guys r always fooled by ur this leaders. hello sakhavee, try to understand, that money was collected from corrupted lottery agent. tomarrow if davud ibrahim buy some bonds from ur media, r u ready to issue ?.

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RE:Communists in India are rich man's party. They spread red carpet to capitalists and take bribes in crores from them
by Pradeep Kumar R on Jul 15, 2008 03:09 PM  Permalink
Haha.... already issued to Davud... but he did not pay...

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RE:Communists in India are rich man's party. They spread red carpet to capitalists and take bribes in crores from them
by vigil on Jul 15, 2008 02:06 PM  Permalink
Prakash Kharat ( communist leader ) is real internal enemy of India. He and his party will jump as per instructions from China. This deal is very important for us. Deal will create jobs ( for every one). Please support PM ( thou you oppose UPA / congress). After so long we got honest PM ( unfortunately he is not a politician)

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RE:Communists in India are rich man's party. They spread red carpet to capitalists and take bribes in crores from them
by bency mohan gopalakrishnan on Jul 15, 2008 02:19 PM  Permalink
Deal will create jobs ( for every one)?????

you are stupid...
This is not a deal for unemployment.

Some nuclear scientists & beaurocrats will benefit from it..

Common man will not get anything,except very expensive elctricity (cost 5 times more than precent rate)

india government will be under debt from World bank or western countries, for setting up nuclear plants which need millions,(more than Indian Budget)



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RE:Communists in India are rich man's party. They spread red carpet to capitalists and take bribes in crores from them
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:23 PM  Permalink
ha ha Indian consumers pay subsidised rates for electricity and the cost price itself is atleast 100 percentage more. On top of that politicians give free electricity to farmers etc.

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RE:Communists in India are rich man's party. They spread red carpet to capitalists and take bribes in crores from them
by Pradeep Kumar R on Jul 15, 2008 02:23 PM  Permalink
We cannot run a channel with parippuvada and Chaya.. so we will accept bribes from anyone..

Do you know the 2 crores was collected before the bond issue .. that is the magic...

It is one of the biggest joke that Kairali is people's channel ..... politically biased waste channel....

The CPM is one of the cash/ asset rich party in India... definitely it is not from the poor people.. They have corporatised the currption in the name of party fund. If Kerala is lagging behind in developments , it is only because of communists.

The poor Pinarayi vijayan's son is studing in UK university ( must be sponsered by Lavlin ) and VS's son is heading one firm in Kerala... do you think it is because of their capacity... They all studied in management collages also...


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RE:Communists in India are rich man's party. They spread red carpet to capitalists and take bribes in crores from them
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:31 PM  Permalink
nobody watches Kairali except pinkoes

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Where will our belowed PM to see the impact of what they sign today?
by SK2007 on Jul 15, 2008 01:37 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

All nonsence. Our belowed Pm is telling that India will never compromise on its future testing. The question is why should we take a chance when there is a legal lacunae in the draft agmt?. Let us sign a foolproof agmt where we retain our autonomy. Untill then let us not budge to the US tactics.
Have you seen todays news in Indian Express?. US has given clean chit to PAK as in Kabul Blast. India is tellling it has proof against PAK. How did US got such an evidence to give a clean chot to PAK. US is always against India and for PAK.
Keeping in mind this attitude, what ever they say, we shoudl not sign the N Deal.
US is a sinking ship with 1.8 billion increasing debt every minute.
I think our PM wants a retirment job some where in UN or IAEA .


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RE:Where will our belowed PM to see the impact of what they sign today?
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 01:41 PM  Permalink
if US sinks rest of world will sink too sk2007, that is the basic message.

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RE:Where will our belowed PM to see the impact of what they sign today?
by ravi sekhar on Jul 15, 2008 01:52 PM  Permalink
U.S is going to sink in few years from now.China is going to be the next super power dear!

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RE:Where will our belowed PM to see the impact of what they sign today?
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 01:55 PM  Permalink
if US sinks China will sink too, China 40% of GDP is comprised of exports to US. DOnt live under any illusions ravi. US will be still be a science and technology and innovation super power for a number of years to come. How many patents do you think entire India and China combined have filed, it will be less than 10% of US total. China and India require a lot of years to come to the standards of US. US has taken more than 200 years of growth to achieve the status.

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RE:Where will our belowed PM to see the impact of what they sign today?
by SK2007 on Jul 15, 2008 01:58 PM  Permalink
I would like to remind you about US patent for turmeric and Basmathi Rice. They will patent every thing GOD has given in this earth. Still you don't undertand thaire tactics, to extract money from other countries.


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RE:Where will our belowed PM to see the impact of what they sign today?
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:06 PM  Permalink
US has prospered due to industrialization, application of science and technology and separation of religion and state. If you think US has prospered through extracting money from other countries, you are mistaken fully. Do you know that US funded green revolution in India and also provided science and technology for the green revolution ?

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RE:Profile of Mr.Sahadevan KK
by balu on Jul 15, 2008 01:44 PM  Permalink
northies are killers shutup eg bihar and mp/

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RE:RE:Profile of Mr.Sahadevan KK
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:34 PM  Permalink
northies are killers and southies are idli vada heroes ha ha

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RE:Profile of Mr.Sahadevan KK
by a h s on Jul 15, 2008 01:38 PM  Permalink
why you waste so much enery and space name and "COMMIE" would have been enough


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with
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 01:34 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

leftists and chaddi knickerwallahs deciding our fate, India is on the road to agricultural state soon. There will be famines, high infant and maternal mortality etc just like in the past and of course massive load-shedding. With OIL boil staring us in the face, we are still debating if the deal is good or if 8% is enough of an energy to submit nuclear deal to international scrutiny. Every single percent counts. No wonder democracy never works in India simply because most of us are poor and illiterate and we cannot look at the bigger picture of energy security

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RE:with
by vigil on Jul 15, 2008 02:07 PM  Permalink
Prakash Kharat ( communist leader ) is real internal enemy of India. He and his party will jump as per instructions from China. This deal is very important for us. Deal will create jobs ( for every one). Please support PM ( thou you oppose UPA / congress). After so long we got honest PM ( unfortunately he is not a politician)

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RE:with
by SK2007 on Jul 15, 2008 01:42 PM  Permalink
Yes Mr Girish, your conclusion is correct. Democracy doesn't work in INdia. Democracy has sought its hand from LEFT to get the number. Even then thye did not want top extedn their hand to BJP, a democratic party. A single largest party is kept aside by these crooks are in a mess. They want to get the vote for this N Deal from Jiled Criminal MPs.
Sheme on the INC

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RE:RE:with
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 01:45 PM  Permalink
look dude, it is a matter of national importance. And I am sure privately most of the leaders Vajpayee, Advani etc are pro-deal. It is only the RSS which is against it as it still harbours dreams of swadeshi renaissance or some such nonsense. Both the RSS and Left are against US in any form. I am pretty sure that congress and BJP would have tried to come closer on this issue except for RSS.

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RE:with
by DS on Jul 15, 2008 02:13 PM  Permalink
Anyone thinking abt the corporate angle of this deal? My humble opinion is that it is not about nation building for the INC, BJP and CPM. It is all about money making and their loyalities to the corporate world.
Mukesh opposes the deal, while Anil favoures, why? Because Anil's Reliance Power pins its money making hopes on nuclear fuel whereas Mukesh's Reliance Natural focuses on alternative renewable energy.
Talking of nuclear fuel, have anyone thought abt how good it will be as a replacement to oil? Well, estimates of power produced by nuclear in france vary from 17%-75% and no body know what is the truth! What abt nuclear waste? What about cost?? Nuclear based electricity will cost much more than coal based.
So dear friends... its nothing but money making by a few politicians and a few rich business thats it. All we can do is just blabber in forums like this.

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RE:with
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:20 PM  Permalink
france produces 80% of electricity via nuclear reactors. And in US it is 20%. And in US it is going to increase soon due to OIL boil

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RE:with
by SK2007 on Jul 15, 2008 01:48 PM  Permalink
I too don't dis agree with N Deal. The problem is the hiden clauses which will affect our future rights. US hates India on every occassion. Look at todays news about US giving clean chit to PAk. Still you don't understand US. You on't have self confidence with youself. That is the basic problem.

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RE:with
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:03 PM  Permalink
the entire world think a federal solution with appropriate rights for minorities will work in Sri Lanka, but these political parties in TN are totally pro-LTTE and India is allowing Pakistan China to meddle in a region which should have been our area of influence

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RE:with
by SK2007 on Jul 15, 2008 02:05 PM  Permalink
Unfortunately TN parties are UPA allies.

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RE:with
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:10 PM  Permalink
that is what I am telling you we will always have issues with everybody and there is realpolitik involved. This does not mean that we should view US suspiciously. Cold war is over now and diffrent threats exist today and we have to adjust accordingly. Yes it was a mistake on both US and India to drift apart. But now the situation is diffrent

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RE:with
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 01:57 PM  Permalink
Look US has its own compulsions to support Pakistan because of its fight against Al-Qaeda. Dont tell me India does not have its own compulsions, why does not India help Sri Lanka, simply because political parties in TN are pro-LTTE and will not tolerate any action watsoever against LTTE. Because of this Pakistan and China are increasing their influence in Sri Lanka. Also remember that US never attacked India, but both Pakistan and China did.

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RE:with
by SK2007 on Jul 15, 2008 02:02 PM  Permalink
Why should US attack INdia?. On what grounds?. China nd PAk are our neighbours.

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RE:RE:with
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:04 PM  Permalink
that is what I am telling you, in 1971 China was an ally of US and Pakistan was a friend of China and so US sent some nuclear armed ships to India. is this what you are referring to when you say India should not trust US ?

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RE:with
by Shiv Thakur on Jul 15, 2008 01:50 PM  Permalink
Girish if India will sign this deal. Indian will have to pay heavy price in future as this deal is not in National interest.

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pm, n-deal
by sundara reddy on Jul 15, 2008 01:31 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

i doubt whether pm read n-deal agreements . sikhs have faught for the country but another sikh is surrendering to west

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RE:pm, n-deal
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 01:38 PM  Permalink
never comment on issues which you have no idea of lol. ManMohan Singh trust and personal integrity is more than all the members of Parliament combined(lefties commitment is fully 100 percent towards China)

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RE:pm, n-deal
by amol on Jul 15, 2008 02:06 PM  Permalink
Girish- Nobody is doubting anyone's integrity - the fact is we have come this far WITHOUT the nuclear deal - we are in a bloody strong position today - MMS is wrong in his judgement - and the reason why I say this is because I work in the West and have friends in the STATE DEPARTMENT and guess what ? They are all laughing at India and the Indians for having fallen for the oldest trick in the book - allowing us to be divided ..

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RE:pm, n-deal
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:18 PM  Permalink
guess they are laughing because they think that Indias are so stupid that they are not even bothered about energy security and are talking about testing to counter threats from Pakistan a failed state.

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RE:RE:pm, n-deal
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 12:05 PM  Permalink
Energy security? .. Refer to the above message from a Girish Rao (I presume another one..)

He talks about the pathetic state India is in today. The Americans are laughing because they think you are stupid enough to put the entire country's resources including the PM battling for a single deal hoping it will change the equations...
:)

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RE:pm, n-deal
by Girish Rao on Jul 15, 2008 02:15 PM  Permalink
ok quick questions
Do we have adequate power today leave alone future? NO
Do we have adequate OIL to insulate us from the coming OIL shock NO
Do we have the technology to process thorium today NO
Do we have sufficiently advanced nuclear reactors NO
Do we have adequate uranium supplies NO.
Is OIL going to PEAK soon
YES.
What is per-capital Income of India
2700$$ according to PPP and 1000$ acording to market value
Is India prosperous
answer NO
i could go on dude, hope you get the drift

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RE:pm, n-deal
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 12:03 PM  Permalink
And your point is? ONE nuclear deal will change all answers to YES, and per capita income to $1 Million?

:)

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RE:RE:pm, n-deal
by Shiv Thakur on Jul 15, 2008 01:52 PM  Permalink
Girish
India should be have poltican PM not edcationalist PM.Now Indian does not have confidence in MMS.

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People are singing on Congress at Restaurants, parks, streets, buses and trains where they meet. Congress smell goes globally. Smelly Congress will reach at the climax before Elecions. SHAMELESS PEOPLE WHO WRITE FOR MONEY!
by Sahadevan KK on Jul 15, 2008 01:31 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

People are singing on Congress at Restaurants, parks, streets, buses and trains where they meet. Congress smell goes globally. Smelly Congress will reach at the climax before Elecions. SHAMELESS PEOPLE WHO WRITE FOR MONEY!

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RE:People are singing on Congress at Restaurants, parks, streets, buses and trains where they meet. Congress smell goes globally. Smelly Congress will reach at the climax before Elecions. SHAMELESS PEOPLE WHO WRITE FOR MONEY!
by URMILA NATARAJAN on Jul 15, 2008 01:41 PM  Permalink
Jayarajans took crores from the capitalists, Sahadevan. Are you suffering from selective amnesia?

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RE:People are singing on Congress at Restaurants, parks, streets, buses and trains where they meet. Congress smell goes globally. Smelly Congress will reach at the climax before Elecions. SHAMELESS PEOPLE WHO WRITE FOR MONEY!
by a h s on Jul 15, 2008 01:36 PM  Permalink
U ALSO write for commies

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RE:People are singing on Congress at Restaurants, parks, streets, buses and trains where they meet. Congress smell goes globally. Smelly Congress will reach at the climax before Elecions. SHAMELESS PEOPLE WHO WRITE FOR MONEY!
by Pappu Nuni on Jul 15, 2008 01:38 PM  Permalink
you too bruuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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