RE:Reasons Why Modi will Never be PM of India
by Haram Allah on Jul 15, 2008 12:59 AM Permalink
Does Madarsa allow people to put name of another religion?
The truth is out now. The IAEA agreement signed on 7th July 2008. The leaders of the Indian National Congress were not aware of this. Several commitments were made by the leaders about this agreement till it was published in the internet by a US portal. Don't you feel ashamed to be called congress men? What is your position in the party? Any answer by the AICC members? This is a country that profess 'DHARMA YUDH'. The congress followed the tradition till recently. Not now. Any more.. They lost control. They are after horse trading. Pity!! Real congress men, it is time to start freedom struggle.
RE:India profess dharma yudh
by dengudubabai on Jul 15, 2008 03:38 AM Permalink
Whatever it is We need N-Power thats it. We need it for our future generations.
Thru this N Deal The Amount of Indian Money that would be Put to Stake is Rs.11,25000 Crores or US$ 260 Bn.
And Even of We withdraw from the Agreement Later, The Built Nuclear Facilities would be under IAEA Safeguards in PERPETUITY. Which Only means West dominated IAEA will intrude into India and be there FOREVER. The Way out of It is to demolish those Facilities. Means Rs. 11,25,000 Crores of Loss.
Understand Our Forex Reserves are US$ 312 Bn.
Understand The Cost of a Product bought in the Market would Include its R & D Costs And Profits.
Do We Need to Spend So much Now ?
Is it Not better to Spend that Money in Better Water Management ?
Do You Know Only 20% of Rainwater is Harvested in the Dams & Reservoirs and Rest is being Leftout into the Sea ?????
A Reasonable Lake per Village thru out the Country Costs just Rs. 35000 Crores. Which also means JOBs only for Indians And Only INRs and No Forex.
Moreover, The Uranium Reserves Available in India can serve our Needs for another 110 yrs.
RE:Cost thru N Dea
by Gopal on Jul 15, 2008 12:51 AM Permalink
Good thought. The government has no time to think about it. They are after business agreements. Everything under shroud. AICC members are not consulted about the business.
This Indo-US Nuke Deal is Not Good. It is Only to finance the Bankrupt G-8 & their allies.
The Propaganda of Lack of Energy is a UnTruth.
Proper Water Management thru Water Harvesting in Village Ponds, which were actually filled up and Encroached by Congress Party workers and its splinter groups Will Solve a Huge Power Requirement from the AGRIculture Sector.
Stop Power Theft And Use that Money to Finance New Projects.
Campaign for Social Afforestation with Plants which can be used as Bio-mass to generate Energy, Which means a double advantage. A Huge Amount of Energy Demand for the AC/Refrigeration Purposes will vanish. Also, Rains will be better And Hydel Power Generation with existing Capacities itself will Increase.
Diversify Industrial development across Geography, So that both Public and Private Transportation Costs will decrease. Which means Less Petrol/Forex And Also Lesser Energy Consumption in the Homes. People Also will have More Free time in their Lifes.
Encourage Non-Conventional Energy Sources which have much lesser Gestation Periods.
PLS UNDERSTAND that the GDP Growth Mongers & Foreign Agents Are Not Allowing the Above things happen because they want to grow their wealth at the COST of the Environment And Our Tax Money.
REJECT THIS N-DEAL. TOPPLE THIS UPA GOVT.
ALL THE PARTIES SUPPORTING THIS GOVT ARE ONLY SUPPORTING FOR THEIR SELFISH INTERESTS AND NOT BECOZ THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN THE DEAL.
Majority of Power Shortages till date Are Only due to Political Corruption, Court Cases and related Delays.
Another reason is LACK of TALENT in the SEBs as the Best Talent even after joining has left to Private Sector to avoid unneccessary problems with Quotawalas in work and promotions.
Third is, Vanishing of Village Tanks and Lakes By Encroachers Which decreased the Ground Water Levels and Made the Water Drain into the Sea. That Resulted in More Power Requirement in Agriculture Sector And Also More Demand of Water for Domestic Consumption.
Lack of Water Harvesting resulted in Increased Temperatures Which Made ACs and Coolers a Neccessity. I found In everybodies House the Power Bills are double in houses with Coolers And 6 times in houses with ACs.
Meaning Manifolds of Increase in Power Demand. By Spending Rs. 35000 Crores to Dig Village Tanks/Lakes which will take less than 2 yrs, We can decrease the Load of Agri Sector as well as the Domestic Demand in Summers to 1/3 or 1/4.
We Don't need to go for N Deal and Increase our N Energy Component Which will only be delivered if At all AFTER 8/10 yrs.
RE:RE:Let this Govt Go And So the Deal
by dengudubabai on Jul 15, 2008 03:40 AM Permalink
Shutup commie ......enough of ur ideology move over while I want N-Power for my future generations.
Myth #11: India needs more nuclear power to assure its energy future.
Fact: Nuclear power has been virtually insignificant in India’s energy mix in the past, and will be no more important in the future. India has been generating electricity with nuclear reactors for more than 40 years. Yet, reactors supply only 2% to 3% of its electricity today. India has not built more reactors because they have not turned out to be as safe, or as clean, or – most important – as economical as originally thought. Even if India were to achieve a 50% increase in nuclear power generation (which is unlikely) such a step would only increase India’s overall electricity output by one percent at most, and would only increase India’s overall energy output by a fraction of one percent. That is not a significant increase in the energy available to India and would not decrease India’s demand for oil and gas.
I wonder what deal says about the newly installed reactors (read fast breeder ones). I have read everything that i could lay my hands on this nuclear deal. With few exceptions here or there everybody evades to talk about the fast breeder reactors. At some place Dr. Kakodakar has mentioned that bringing breeders to safeguard is out of question (thank god it is so) but nowhere it is mentioned whether new breeder reactors would be under safeguard or not. If i understood the text of the deal correctly it says that all the facilities that are erected after signing the deal (which would be 2009) would be covered by safeguards. India is planning to build at least 4 breeders by 2020 so what happen to those. Enlighten me.......I would be happy if they are not covered
RE:What about new reactors
by hiral joshi on Jul 15, 2008 01:21 AM Permalink
There is lot of ambiguity in the deal. And therefore I worry about the haste for signing the deal. Our govt is not ever willing to discuss it in parliament.
This only proves one thing....Indian democracy is one big chaotic system, governed by selfish moneyminded bigots elected by equally apathatic parnoid voters...in short Indian parliment: a pinnacle of indecisiveness and hypocrisy.
INDIA SHOULD BE LOOKING INTO THE FREE ENERGY SOURCE WHICH IS TOTALLY SAFE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT & ALL LIVING BEINGS & THINGS USING HYPERDIMENTIONAL PHYSICS RELATED EXOTIC TECHNOLOGIES WHICH USA OBTAINED FROM THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON FROM ET & ANCIENT LUNAR & MARSIAN CIVILIZATIONS WHICH MADE THE USE OF 'TORSION FIELD' ALSO KNOWN AS TORSION PHYSICS THAT USES 4TH DIMENTIONAL SPACE-TIME CONJECTOR.
Trust vote will be on 22nd July, whereas the IAEA board of governors are to meet over N-deal on 1st August. What if the Govt. loses the Trust vote ? Will the IAEA still meet on 1st August ? The Govt. needs to get it's act together and ensure it wins the vote by convincing the fence sitters in the parliament. The MPs should rise to the ocassion and vote as per merits of the case rather than narrow political considerations.
RE:Nuclear Deal
by Gopal on Jul 15, 2008 01:00 AM Permalink
Mr.Mehta The N-deal is 'AIRBORN'. You can meet HIM again only at the retiring room of port of destination. Thanks to the POLITICIANS. There is no precedence, when an agreement signed without consulting Parliament is put up for ratification, in rejecting the motion of approval.
RE:RE:Nuclear Deal
by Nithin Sadasivan on Jul 14, 2008 11:42 PM Permalink
It is not going to make any difference. The IAEA board of governors meeting is not a conditional one. In the case of the UPA govt fail to get the required number only one thing is going to happen considering the present situation in Parliament, "elections". So till the next government takes charge after the elections the present govt is going to be the "caretaker" govt. According to the Constitution of India a Minority government and even a Caretaker government can go ahead with any treaty provided that treaty is not a new one. Since this treaty is an old one the govt can go ahead with it if sucha situation arises.
