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Amar Singh's logic
by King c on Jul 10, 2008 11:00 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Amar Singh says he supported the deal becoz he did not want the BJP ("communal forces") to come to power. Now that means, he is convinced that if elections are to be held today, the BJP is going to come to power!

Anyway, he can prevent this from happening only for the next 9 months. After that the General Elections have to be held, then he cannot prevent the people's verdict

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RE:Amar Singh's logic
by syed nabil taj on Jul 10, 2008 11:14 AM  Permalink
yes like it happened last time, peoples verdict-CONGRESS

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RE:Amar Singh's logic
by Venugopalan on Jul 10, 2008 11:26 AM  Permalink
My question is in case if the Congress fails to win the majority will they approach the Leftists for support? Will they reciprocate in good faith? Only time will tell the future alignments.

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RE:Amar Singh's logic
by King c on Jul 10, 2008 11:16 AM  Permalink
yes, like it happened in 1998 and 1999. people's verdict - BJP!

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RE:Amar Singh's logic
by pravin on Jul 10, 2008 11:17 AM  Permalink
I agree, this time Congress will come tow power on its own strength.

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RE:Amar Singh's logic
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:43 AM  Permalink
Pravin:

Two inconsistencies in one message.

Mistaken belief 1: Congress will come to power..
Mistaken belief 2: Its own strength.. wotz that?

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RE:Amar Singh's logic
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:52 AM  Permalink
If you could provide the correct tally instead of Pravin's 'mistakes', we could probably avoid election costs...

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RE:Amar Singh's logic
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 12:30 PM  Permalink
That is not required innit?... despite all assurances to the contrary given by Pranab, Congress HAS gone to IAEA ahead of the trust vote..

In any case elections are around the corner anyway... just wait a few more months.. :-)

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Caution BJP !
by jyotigraha on Jul 10, 2008 11:00 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Advaniji,
Your stance against the Congress in N-Deal issue will cost your party heavily.We will not vote for BJP if you stoop to this level.Despite you dismal permomance during NDA rule we still side with you for your Pro-Hindu ideologies.
This deal is good for the country for we will join the club of civilized and modern christain nations.

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RE:Caution BJP !
by Avi Priten on Jul 10, 2008 11:07 AM  Permalink
looks like she is a christian missionary, why do you wish to align with the morons of the western world. They are the most uncivilised breed on earth,

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RE:Caution BJP !
by kitttigadu on Jul 10, 2008 11:05 AM  Permalink
So does that mean only "modern christian nations" are civilized, and our Slave Singh needs a sell-out deal with the USA for us to join them.

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RE:Caution BJP !
by Shiv Thakur on Jul 10, 2008 11:21 AM  Permalink
Jyotigraha
why are looking every thing with the eyes of chirsinity. how can say that this deal is in favour of India. do you read the copy of this deal. or are you telling accordingly congressi media. You should know that America have same agreement with china withour hide act.nd your statement that which you have told that only christains are civilized and moderen than you should open your eyes and see in iraq and afganistan and Gwantemala

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RE:Caution BJP !
by Sam Mohan on Jul 10, 2008 11:23 AM  Permalink
I dont completely balame him since all G8 countries are develped being a christain ..We are still in the past We are worshipping Gods which used to be there in Treta Yug and Sat yug
But now it is Kal yug and Kal guys has its own Good and Evil ,Good Is loard Jesus and Bad is Mohammed just like Ram and Ravana .We are vanar sena Which should decide which side we are fighting for

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RE:RE:Caution BJP !
by PKN on Jul 10, 2008 11:42 AM  Permalink
If you think you are a Vanara go ahead and think so. But dont expect others to join with you .
If your understanding of faith and God, is what you expressed then you need to see a God doctor at a Lunatic Asylum Now while there is time!
By the way who is "we" who are worshipping discontinued Gods? Is it you and your Tape worm? Or you and your Evangelist congregation which tries to SELL Jesus Christ by saying "He washes you Sins' as though that great man was a bar of washing soap?
But then what could, we expect from a self confessed Vanara!



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RE:Caution BJP !
by soorma on Jul 10, 2008 11:07 AM  Permalink
Not only deal... His love for Jinah too will cost him personally...

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RE:Caution BJP !
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:08 AM  Permalink
Soniaji:

Despite the dismal performance of the UPA government, we would have voted Congress. But all the lies floating around the deal, and assurances made on behalf of the Prime Minister that "of course we will seek a confidence vote before going ahead with the deal", they have deliberately misled the country.
This blatant insult to democracy (a minority government taking decisions surreptiously in case it falls) is not at all acceptable to the Indian voters, and you will see the result in the next elections.

Next time we won't give you an opportunity to engage in these surrpetious activity again

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RE:Caution BJP !
by Sabka Baap on Jul 10, 2008 11:21 AM  Permalink
In last general election India was not shining for you Mr. all wrong. You never voted for any other party except BJP. you are lying like Jhoothvani.

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RE:Caution BJP !
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:25 AM  Permalink
And you thought Jyotigraha from the Sonia camp wasn't?..

:-)

Truth hits like a ton of bricks only when coming from a BJP supporter?... good.. at least you see SOME value being imparted by BJP to today's polity.. :-)

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RE:Caution BJP !
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:37 AM  Permalink
the process of importing values was caight on cam and kept for posterity too, in case someone forgets...

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RE:Caution BJP !
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:44 AM  Permalink
SI:

You obviously don't understand an iota of what I was telling Sabka Baap...
You again demonstrate how far behind you are in comprehension capabilities ...
:-)

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RE:Caution BJP !
by PKN on Jul 10, 2008 11:25 AM  Permalink
The misled illiterate Jihadi may be forgiven at least to the extent that it was his low IQ that made him put home made bombs on bicycles. But people like you hiding behind Pro-Hindu stances attacking the NDA (which in your opinion has a dismal performance) are parasites who are curse of India.
Those who think that Vatican is the fountain-head of all Modernism and Civilization are actually are not Christians but neo converts who switched their faith for Rs 10/- . Don’t forget that is what Judas also did, for 13 silver pieces. The great difference is that he got a better deal! Every convert is a pervert!
If the BJP suspects, that people like you will vote for them LK Advani should get his head checked. If you think that BJP will support the nuclear deal trusting a convert like you, get you head checked.
I will surprise you that I also believe that the BJP should support the deal. But since I am not a convert / pervert I will not use your means to express my desire.


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RE:Caution BJP !
by pradeep pandey on Jul 10, 2008 11:13 AM  Permalink
Remember India is a Hindu nation.U better go to west and live in Christain Nation.



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RE:Caution BJP !
by patriotsunite on Jul 10, 2008 11:32 AM  Permalink
I should call everyone who replied to ur message idiots and u, the biggest idiot. Obviously, you are NOT a christian and you are just trying to foment trouble.

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Manmohan has never won an election
by Rajarshi Sengupta on Jul 10, 2008 10:59 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I think, the PM has no moral right to talk about popular support. He could not get himself elected from a Lok sabha. He should rememeber that he has promised to keep himself out of politics in 1999 once he has lost from the South Delhi constituency.
He was responsible for a crushing defeat of Congress in 1996 & now he will supervise the complete decimation of Congress after this general election when NDA will come back to power.

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RE:Manmohan has never won an election
by soorma on Jul 10, 2008 11:05 AM  Permalink
This is true..... In india, you can elect mayawati,jaya,etc... but no place for MMS.... We don't like clean, honest people... We want criminals to rule us....

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RE:Manmohan has never won an election
by Rajarshi Sengupta on Jul 10, 2008 11:33 AM  Permalink
Well, what is so great about Manmohan except some academic degrees. What has he done for the country. He is just a puppet in the hands of Sonia.And , as a PM he is a pathetic failure. Just compare this governments record to that of NDA. Well, Left hold him back on Nuclear deal, but why he being an economist could not contain Price rise?

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RE:Manmohan has never won an election
by Samir Moosa on Jul 10, 2008 11:57 AM  Permalink
We Indians are so fickle minded. For four years when the coffers were overflowing, everyone claimed that India is on top and no one patted the Government's back for getting India there. Now a slight hiccup, that too no fault of the PM (internationally everything is expensive) and everyone cries foul. Very ungrateful of all of us.

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RE:Manmohan has never won an election
by Shiv Thakur on Jul 10, 2008 11:24 AM  Permalink
Soorma
Good name but winning an election you should have poltically wise. PM is a poltical post. it is not a job of professor in premier institute of inda. Man Mohan is only fit for teaching job.

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RE:Manmohan has never won an election
by Jalaj Singh on Jul 10, 2008 11:30 AM  Permalink
You cannot guarantee that he is an honest man. No one can become politician if he is honest. Onecannot rule while hs is honest. This honest man and his partyman are busy in sale purchase of Ministers. They have purchased Amar Singh and Mulayam Singh. Deal in a Deal. MMS is puppet in foreign hand (Sonia Gandhi) whose honesty is inclined to Italy. Remember my friend that after signing this deal, India cannot testfire or even breath in the subject of nuclear weapon. It cannot testfire without the consent of Superpower. They will poke their nose in every activities relating to Nuclear Policy. Just for our vested interest, see what we have done. We have selled this country. We had done this earlier in the name of growing business during British Rule. Invited East India Company and after a centuries struggle got independence. Just for the sake of keeping words and for saving its nose MMS and Sonia is inclined to Deal. Who cares for the country. You cannot expect the patriotism from these politicians, whose every effort and steps is towards securing their chair. It is a pity that whole nation fails to understand this. God Save India. Give them knowledge and belief. Shame of Manmohan and Sonia who are now on their knees before countries biggest broker.

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Defective Deal
by Dipak Bose on Jul 10, 2008 10:57 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The main problems of the text of the Deal are (a) the list of facilities are not mentioned. Thus the real part of the Deal is still unknown.
(b) who would decide which should be included, India or USA?
(c) Seperation of civilian and military facilities cannot be done even by USA as it means duplications of all facilities and double the manpower required. Can India afford that cost?
(d) It is written clearly the Reprocessing plants will be subjected to further negotiations. This is the key to nuclear weapons and FBR

On the whole, it looks just like NPT, nothing less nothing more.
Because it is too expensive for India to build up the military facilities and India will not be allowed to import any materials and equipments for the military facilities.

Who needs nuclear plants only to produce electricity? Electricity can be produced by 100 ways which are much cheaper than electricity to be produced by American plants. Remember ENRON.


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RE:Defective Deal
by Samir Moosa on Jul 10, 2008 11:32 AM  Permalink
In a democracy, people elect a group of people to run the country for them because they think these people are capable enough to take good decisions for them. If India has elected Congress to power, they should believe in them and let them take decisions for India. None of the experts writing blogs on this website know anything about anything infact and still everyone has a piece of advice for Manmohan Singh, Chidambaram, Pranab Mukherjee & some even have advice for A.P.J. Abul Kalam. Now as far as we all can understand Mr. Kalam is far more capable than any of us. He has more knowledge about Nuclear India than any of us (I bet only the PM knows as much, if at all). So how can we doubt these guys??? The BJP, the Congress, Left, NDA, UPA, UNPA anyone who is power cannot reveal matters of National Security to each and every individual. Better leave it to professional politicians to run the country.

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RE:Defective Deal
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:03 AM  Permalink
the NPT lobby is bitterly opposed to the deal,and you say the deal is NPT. One of you must be wrong.

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Tale of many fathers
by Radhakrishna Varier on Jul 10, 2008 10:56 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The present congress party claims historical existance from 1885 when it was founded by FOUR gentle men -Allan Octavian Hume, William Wedderburn, Dadabhai Naoroji and Dinshaw Wacha (as per wikipedia). This clearly shows that the reason for birth of congress is these FOUR fathers. So it is natural to show atleast four characters. When the short man from Bengal explains to India that they will go to IAEA only after trust vote, another fellow was busy packing the draft in covers to be send to IAEA, when yet another fellow was flying and conducting press meeting in the air-craft to explain the growth pattern of his retarded baby, when another lady picking up phone calls from 'sowrn enemies' to lolipop her bootlickers bunch of jokers.

It not the question of for or against the nuclear deal. All of us know that we need power. Nuclear Power, when safely generated, is the best means as it will not deplete natural resources. However, it is the clandestin way in which the Grand Old Party of India has conducted this excercise is the matter of concern. Even when the IAEA makes it clear that the draft is no secret our GOP wants it to keep the same under the turban.

What the GOP's logic of not taking into confidence the lagest single party in the DEMOCRATIC India & the oppositation coailation on this crucial matter concerning India' future.

None of these beggers will be alive when the effect of this (good or bad) deal actually start to show-up


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RE:Tale of many fathers
by Activist on Jul 10, 2008 11:04 AM  Permalink
Let history be history. Lets talk about the deal.
Why are you so sure whats reported by a newspaper is true?
India havent signed the NPT. This deal is more of an acceptance of India's stand. The world powers are ready to give india a special status as a nuclear power. Why should we miss the oppurtunity? Blame the silly politics in the country for all this hungama. And as you said, lets find out whether the deal was good or bad later, if we are alive. decisions will be proved right or wrong only in due time. but decisions has to be taken.

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RE:RE:Tale of many fathers
by Radhakrishna Varier on Jul 10, 2008 11:16 AM  Permalink
To SI & Activist,

I repeat, the deal may or may not be good. I do not know.

Now, tell me how are you saying the deal is good. In any case, as per the PM, the possible operative part of the deal,the agreement with IAEA in a 'confidential' document. Some clauses can be there what could be sensitive. IAEA themselves are not claiming as sensitive. Only the congress. This is raising the suspicion.

To SI - Not even a single deal. But what is its relevance in evaluating my views wrt the topic.

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:22 AM  Permalink
Varier,The relevance is that international treaties are prerogatives of the ruling govt. The deals are not always placed before public. Same with the deals with IMF, Worldbank, etc. Now, the deal is in public domain, published in rediff too. Happy?

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by Radhakrishna Varier on Jul 10, 2008 11:31 AM  Permalink
SI,

I am not for publishing these documents in web-sites or new papers before it is put to practice.

Look at it in this way - A set of people who helped you for almost 4 years are agrevied on only this point. One argument can be that the draft may contain clauses that are benificial to India and if these are publically debated, will give chance for removal.

The congress chose to risk the gov and went ahead. What pressing need to that extent of serving ties with the people who proped their minority gov for 4 years. The communists are also responsible parlamentarians.

I am not supporting communist. I am only commenting on the modus operandi


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RE:RE:Tale of many fathers
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:41 AM  Permalink
The Congress compromised a lot for the Left, pulled back a lot of things including privatisation of airports and such. But there comes to a point where the party with the largest members has to assert its control. The Left have been enjoying power without responsibility, and it had to end. Prana told them that they can get the full text of agreement if they join the govt.

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RE:RE:Tale of many fathers
by Activist on Jul 10, 2008 11:44 AM  Permalink
those set of people openly stated that the they will not support the deal as "it is offensive to china's interests"

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RE:RE:Tale of many fathers
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:28 AM  Permalink
The key of course being "ruling govt"... :-)

Please explain how come a minority govt. can be a ruling govt?.. :-)

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:39 AM  Permalink
Is it the duty of govt to prove its majority every time it signs a deal?
Let the opposition table a no-confidence motion if they think govt lost majority.

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:52 AM  Permalink
SI:

Of course it is not the duty of the govt to prove it's majority... silly me, I thought we were in a democracy.. but since Congress is at the helm of affairs, how could I make that assumption?..
:-)

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RE:RE:RE:Tale of many fathers
by Activist on Jul 10, 2008 11:46 AM  Permalink
by your definition, this govt was a minority one right from day one.

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by Activist on Jul 10, 2008 11:33 AM  Permalink
Varier,
i too havent claimed the deal is good. i too, like you, said i dnt knw what the end result will be. lets wait and watch.
what am i telling is that, when you look at the larger picture it seems that this deal will do more good to india than bad. It is giving India acceptance into the Nuclear group of countires without signing NPT. I feel this deal is more of a vindication of India's nuclear policies. The govt had made the 123 agreed text public and now they have made the IAEA text public. Lets go through those. We all seem to be more worried about what will happen when we conduct a nuclear test again than the fact that our existing nuclear plants are facing shortage of uranium. If the deal materialises, we will be in a position to buy uranium from the NSG countries.

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by Radhakrishna Varier on Jul 10, 2008 11:49 AM  Permalink
Activist,

Whether we do nuclear test or not, in the comming years, no country can attack another country with a nuclear bomb. So the only consolance of conducting nuclear tests are that it will be a technology demonstrator & deterent.

Then once any country supplies uranium, it will be practically difficult for it to take it back & stop fuel supplies.

The next bad thing that will happen now is that we will abandon our research programme oh thorium etc.. as most of the scientists are un-happy

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by Activist on Jul 10, 2008 11:53 AM  Permalink
it seems we are making the same points. i completely agree with the first two points.

regarding the fast breeder research, this deal doesnt ask for it to be stopped. we have started it and achieved what we have without any international assistance. its upto India to continue to it.. and i hope we do.

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RE:RE:Tale of many fathers
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:13 AM  Permalink
I'm sure you are pipping to go ... but have you thought about the pound of flesh?.. :-)

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RE:RE:RE:RE:Tale of many fathers
by Radhakrishna Varier on Jul 10, 2008 11:19 AM  Permalink
Dear All Right,

Please explain. The message is too short to understand

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RE:RE:RE:Tale of many fathers
by Activist on Jul 10, 2008 11:35 AM  Permalink
why are you so cryptic mr all right. come to the point.

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:00 AM  Permalink
So you are not against the deal? Only worried about Congress being formed by 4 people?How many other international deals have you seen before it was signed?

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:12 AM  Permalink
SI:

Are you really that dumb, or are you just pleading ignorance so that you don't have to answer Varier's questions?

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:17 AM  Permalink
I couldn't find any questions in his post! Did you find any?
International treaties are prerogatives of the governments. India has not approached IAEA formally yet. Can't you see these things?

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:26 AM  Permalink
:-)
I din't think you'd find any questions given your IQ... the same way Pranab and co. are deflecting everything that comes their way.. :-)

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RE:Tale of many fathers
by Dipak Bose on Jul 10, 2008 11:00 AM  Permalink
You do not know any history. The First president of the Congress Party was Umesh Chandra Banerjee. Important leaders were Surendranath Banerjee, Ghosh, Bipin Pal, not those rubbish from Bombay. Dadabhai Nawrozi was in London then, he was a British MP for the Liberal Party, nothing to do with the Congress.


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RE:Tale of many fathers
by Radhakrishna Varier on Jul 10, 2008 11:11 AM  Permalink
Dear Bose,

Thanks for the 'historical' piece of advice. I am pretty shocked by your historical knowledge or are you trying to give the credit to some bengali's ?

With your knowledge, please correct the wikipedia.

Further I am clear that the creators of congress are whom I have mentioned. Those in your mail may be first president etc....



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Why BJP is barking now
by Amit Arora on Jul 10, 2008 10:56 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

N-Deal: In Rabit & Turtle Race in the end Turtle Won.
Turtle: Dr.Manmohan Singh
Rabit: Left,BJP

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by King c on Jul 10, 2008 10:58 AM  Permalink
Dr. Manmohan Singh won, India Lost!

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by karan on Jul 10, 2008 11:11 AM  Permalink
Singh is king! India won and all illiterates lost..

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:18 AM  Permalink
:-)

Good to see that Singh has won his personal ego war...

Any comments on what it does to the nation? And the precedence he has set?

So the next time BJP makes a Mandir surreptiously whilst NOT in majority, whose shoulder are you going to go and cry on?

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:27 AM  Permalink
as if BJP WANTS a mandir there! If they built one,what are they going to do for the subsequesnt elections?
I remember, the BJP manifesto of '91 had this boast 'we will take PoK back'.
If a govt. can not take decisions,why form a government?

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:54 AM  Permalink
SI:

Was it in the CMP?... You clearly don't know.. :-)
But like I said you naturally would assume that whatever is in Congress's manifesto will HAVE to be there in the coalition CMP.. :-)

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RE:RE:Why BJP is barking now
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:30 AM  Permalink
Clearly being under Congress influence you seem to automatically believe that a BJP manifesto automatically become the CMP for the coalition...

That's ok... its not your fault,... it's the fault of the party you are supporting.. :-)

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:44 AM  Permalink
So All Right, tell me which constituent on NDA was against taking PoK back?

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 10, 2008 11:22 AM  Permalink
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BJP does not need majority to construct the temple.

BJP needs willingness and honesty.

BJP only wanted Mandir issue to come to power and they achieved that.

Now it's time use some "itar" and act sophisticated.

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:29 AM  Permalink
:-)

Fantastic... keep on going ..

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by Krishnan Hariharan on Jul 10, 2008 11:05 AM  Permalink
Please don't blame the BJP for everything... under their rule we became a nuclear power and won Kargil ... u think these things are possible with the Congress, only more and more slavery, internal dissension, political manoeuvres, terrorist attacks, inflation, false promises, border insecurity, appeasement of minorities, caste based routing of the hindus, these are possible... wait and watch the final denouement for the Congress, they will even not have tongues to lick their wounds! how long will shakuni machinate with Duryodhana? only till the Lord patiently gives a chance!

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by prabhat mohanty on Jul 10, 2008 11:28 AM  Permalink
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For your information NDA was ready to sign CTBT and get a civilian nuclear deal.

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by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:56 AM  Permalink
:-)

Mohanty:

Since you are unduly influenced by Pranab and co. you naturally assume that when one says something, it's assumed they have done it, and hence they can go on doing something completely different.. :-)

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by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:32 AM  Permalink
Thanx for the update... you clearly also believe that the Congress was "going to" win the trust vote "before" going to IAEA..

Clearly your definition of reality and imagination seem to follow some individual dictionary.. :-)

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:10 AM  Permalink
Krishnan,you believe that Pokhran was our 1st nuclear test?
Who created kargil and then took bribes even for the coffins of the slain jawans?
Akshardham,parliament attack etc happened at whose tenure?

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RE:RE:Why BJP is barking now
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:21 AM  Permalink
:-)
SI:

Kargil was created by Pakistan, and WON by India -- a memory jog for you..

Akshardham happened during NDA regime. And your point is?

Parliament attack happened during NDA regime. And where is Afzal?

Whose tenure did China war happen? Whose tenure did the India-Pak divide occur in? Whose tenure did the unprecedented 13% inflation occur in? Whose tenure did the petrol prices reach the peak?
And if your excuse is that things are outside government control, then I am amused at your audacity to ask the questions of events occuring during NDA tenure as well.. :-)

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RE:RE:RE:Why BJP is barking now
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:32 AM  Permalink
Kargil was created by Indian intelligence failure, exploited by Pakis. Can you say that about the other wars?
btw,Nothing to say about Fernandes and coffins?
Akshrdham and Parliament attack and kandahar all happened during NDA's tenure. So terrorist attacks did happened during BJP's time too. Surprise!
The questionof audacity has to raised at the guy whose post I replied. If he can blame congress for all those, he should be prepared to take blame for these things.
Got it?

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RE:RE:RE:RE:Why BJP is barking now
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:55 AM  Permalink
Sorry SI:

I didn't realise you were replying to someone else.. my apologies

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by raj on Jul 10, 2008 10:58 AM  Permalink
the deal was supposed to have a broad consensus. if congress feels that bjp is a party of devil and has to be opposed at all costs - that also meant cozying up with left - just to keep "communal forces away".

serves them right if they have that kind of hatred for bjp, heck - they even closed a great golden quadrilateral project, which is more important than the nuclear deal.

what does congress expect from bjp, with the kind of dirty politics they have played


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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by soorma on Jul 10, 2008 11:06 AM  Permalink
I think MMS tried a lot.... Its BJP which kept singing Weak PM... and in the end they don't know where to run...

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RE:Why BJP is barking now
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:04 AM  Permalink
who supposed that?

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MMS
by Priya on Jul 10, 2008 10:55 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Dont write MMS. I get confused with MNS

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RE:MMS
by PKN on Jul 10, 2008 11:45 AM  Permalink
Hope you dont live in Mumbai . Raj Thackeray's goons will attack you for insulting their party !

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bjp
by Activist on Jul 10, 2008 10:55 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

why does this party always resort to personal attack? why cant they talk about issues?

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RE:bjp
by King c on Jul 10, 2008 11:05 AM  Permalink
what is a personal attack here? If PM has misled the nation on the N-deal, the BJP is talking about the issue - which is the issue of N-Deal. Why are you so touchy about your favorite politician Manmohan Singh? Why dont you respond to the issue raised by them rather than countering it by making an attack on BJP?

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RE:bjp
by MOHAN JAIN on Jul 10, 2008 11:27 AM  Permalink
PSUDEO-PATRIOTIC PARTIES LIKE CPI,CPM,BJP HAVE LOST THE RIGHT TO GOVERN INDIA.THEY GENERALLY OPPOSE WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY

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RE:bjp
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:57 AM  Permalink
Mohan:

Completely off-topic as usual.. :-)

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RE:bjp
by PKN on Jul 10, 2008 11:50 AM  Permalink
When Sonia Gandhi called Narendra Modi "maut ka Saudagar" was she talking issues or was she making a personal attack ?

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RE:bjp
by Sabka Baap on Jul 10, 2008 12:01 PM  Permalink
She paid the price for personal attack.

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National Interest Vs Election Interest
by Dev R on Jul 10, 2008 10:53 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

BJP thinks early election will benefit them because of the Inflation. If the election will be as per the schedule (April next year), inflation will come to a control by that time and BJP will not able to make it as issue.

So it make sense of BJP to go against this deal (which political party in India has real National interest after all).

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RE:National Interest Vs Election Interest
by ramesh kumar on Jul 10, 2008 11:02 AM  Permalink
well said. if they support then congress will gain and if bjp opposes they lose the support of middle class. so only inflation will come to their rescue. BJP is in catch 22 situation. No political party in India has real National interest after all as u said.

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RE:National Interest Vs Election Interest
by sanjay bhargava on Jul 10, 2008 11:10 AM  Permalink
YOUR STATEMENT MAKES SENSE

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RE:National Interest Vs Election Interest
by PKN on Jul 10, 2008 12:04 PM  Permalink
Dev R,
Reading you mail many on this board will smile! But one man who would laugh at you would be our FM, Chidambaram. Even in his sweetest dreams he doesn’t expect that inflation will come down. By April 2009, inflation will still be 12% and the effect will felt in everything that the aam adhmi buys.
Why then is BJP pushing so hard ....because poor LK Advani hopes he can be PM one day earlier!

By the way in which democracy does the Opposition pitch in to support the Ruling party to survive a confidence vote!




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RE:National Interest Vs Election Interest
by King c on Jul 10, 2008 11:07 AM  Permalink
Even Amar Singh thinks that if today elections are held, BJP will win. So he says that he supported the deal becoz he wanted to keep "communal forces" out.


In reality, he has got many backroom negotiations for his Reliance friends as well as hushing up of cases against himself and Mulayam.

When the elections are held eventually, he will not be able to suppress the people's verdict, which he is trying to do now.

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BJP is a Hopeless Party .
by Seth Bhagwandas on Jul 10, 2008 10:53 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

BJP is indeed hopeless , and advani is most opportunitis , rascal person Indian has seen afer Jinha.

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RE:BJP is a Hopeless Party .
by srinivasan subramanian on Jul 10, 2008 11:27 AM  Permalink
I really pity you Sir!What congress has been doing all along.Country's fate is mortgaged to a royal family who does not know what is poverty.Then,there is a lady,who never would have dreampt of the opportunity of having senior,decent,qualified persons like Dr.Singh falling at her feet.What is she doing except safe guarding the interest of the family's wealth and her joyful tenure in India.A party and its allies who always cheat muslims and christians in this country for their vote bank cannot do any best.I was a staunch congress voter till rajiv gandhi led the party.He was different.What was wrong with the BJP's management of this country under Vajpayee's leadership?Were not the development of the country put in a fast trajectory?Today every one accepts the the 'golden quadrangle'road project initiated by Vajpayee is today benefitting the country.Please think little deep sir.What opportunism Advani can have at this age?Having had witnessed the brutal parting-off of Hindu gents' private parts during the Indo pakistan struggle before partition,it would be natural for him to be little apprehensive.but now he also is matured.Abbas Naqvi like muslim leaders are in the BJP now and there is no communalism at all.Rather congress has become now more communal.During their regime babar masjid was razed down.Knowing well the mass psyche,no protection was provided by the then congress govt.Now tell me who is communal?Can a caste Hindu of congress party accept the inter caste marriage for

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RE:BJP is a Hopeless Party .
by kitttigadu on Jul 10, 2008 10:58 AM  Permalink
Come no Mullah, out with it. Why hide behind Seth Bhagwandas ?? Why not Abdul Mohammed ?

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RE:BJP is a Hopeless Party .
by Rajesh H on Jul 10, 2008 10:59 AM  Permalink
whats wrong in what advani asked?? The day the Left withdrawn support, the IAEA deal goes to IAEA Governors Board. When they have not got majority then how Can Manmohan Singh be the Prime Minister, and How can he be Authorised to do so?? Just think Properly before you write!! Its not Hopeless. Due know anything about the Deal?? Pros and Cons?? if you don know just shut Up !! first read the agreement and come Back and Write!!

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RE:BJP is a Hopeless Party .
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 10, 2008 11:30 AM  Permalink
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IAEA document is available on Rediff site.

Please read.

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RE:RE:BJP is a Hopeless Party .
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:34 AM  Permalink
Pranab was clearly misleading the Left and the entire nation when he said "Govt cannot share secret documents UNLESS you become part of the government"..

Thanx for pointing out another white lie from the Congress camp.. :-)

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RE:BJP is a Hopeless Party .
by SI on Jul 10, 2008 11:05 AM  Permalink
Why can't Advani move a no-confidence motion?

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RE:BJP is a Hopeless Party .
by All Right on Jul 10, 2008 11:33 AM  Permalink
:-)

You invite him... presently he's just enjoying the white lies coming from Pranab and co... :-)

And me too.. :-)

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