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To Time the Election
by Lalatendu Deo on Jul 08, 2008 08:47 PM  Permalink 


Left have, since formation of the UPA Government, been threatening the Government. Only some of the times the Government have conceded the Demands of the Left. The Congress have heeded to such demands from other parties as well.

But certainly, by showing to outside world that the government was listening to these demands, and painting these as unjust demands, the congress has been cleverly steering through these road blocks.

Signing of the Document is considered to be helping the Congress Party in the next Elections. And the same is believed to be murdering the prospects of the Left parties in general. BJP is opposing to it because their advantages would also reduced to a great extent if the deal is signed before the Election. It is needless to say that BJP will surely be signing the deal if it is not signed by the present government, anyway.

The Price Rise is a sore throat that is threatening to implode. The Congress can't wait for that opportune moment that may never come. They have few solid issues for the impending election. Those may erode over time.

The Congress has taken a calculated risk by not heeding to the Blackmail. Surely the Party will try to bake the Cake and will share it with no one else. Not even with its allies. Left will try very hard to project that the Deal was not in the interest of the country, with not much effect. With Oil Price soaring, the public opinion against the deal has melted down a bit. BJP surely, will play it down.




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By hook or crook congress pushed govt for 4 yrs and now wants sympathy
by hiral joshi on Jul 08, 2008 08:02 PM  Permalink 

N-deal is a very important national issue and country should be made aware of it. Congress and commies forged unholy alliance for the sake of power but they fail to respect the mendate and their tenure remained full of controversies, upmanship, legpulling, useless dinner diplomacies etc. MMS govt wasted time on this issue a lot. Now under pressure MMS wants to sign the deal asap.

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@Anup Nair
by nickel biswas on Jul 08, 2008 07:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

>> Just think, IF SOMEONE TOLD YOU, I WOULD GIVE YOU ELECTRICITY AT HOME ONLY TO MEET 10% OF YOUR NEEDS, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT I SAY, MY ENEMY WILL BE YOUR ENEMY, YOU WILL HAVE TO TOE MY LINE ON VARIOUS ISSUES AND IN SHORT YOU WILL HAVE TO DANCE TO MY TUNES......

First you are dead wrong that Nuclear energy will supply only 10% of India's energy needs. Over the long term it will supply a majority of India's energy needs. Nuclear fuel will last thousands of years, oil will run out in 100 max.

Secondly, your premise that we have to follow US is DEAD wrong.
There are dozens of countries: France, China, Russia, South Africa, Brazil. All have nuclear power plants. Many of them (except Russia) have plants built by the US. Are they forced t always follow the US?

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RE:@Anup Nair
by hiral joshi on Jul 08, 2008 08:12 PM  Permalink
Instead of pointing out others irrational comments you should be reminded of factually incorrect postings of yours. Brazil has nuclear deal with West Germany and not USA(Deal with USA was hopeless and Brazil opted better option). France is in nuclear energy of its own and nowhere rely on USA so please exclude it from you list. South Africa's N-power technology is from france and not USA. Please dont post cooked messages. If you support the deal comeup with your own logic having substantial proofs.

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Left, withdrawing its support
by Guest on Jul 08, 2008 07:45 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

What the left has done was really apt at this point.There is no use supporting them after the PM decided to go forth with IAEA.He is childish in being making such a decision.Or it is a political trick for facing the coming election.Evenif the congress party did not succeed in going ahead with IAEA, this issue could be used as a political weapon.Anyhow it will be an irrepairable loss if the deal is signed.One should not sacrifice his country's sovereignity just because of the lack of serious thought.

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RE:Left, withdrawing its support
by nickel biswas on Jul 08, 2008 07:52 PM  Permalink
There are dozens of countries: France, China, Russia, South Africa, Brazil. All have nuclear power plants. Many of them (except Russia) have plants built by the US. Are they forced t always follow the US?


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RE:Left, withdrawing its support
by hiral joshi on Jul 08, 2008 08:14 PM  Permalink
Mr. Biswas you are loosing our Vishwas.
100% incorrect please spend 20 mins reading all the listed countries' N-programs in wikipedia.

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RE:Left, withdrawing its support
by nickel biswas on Jul 08, 2008 07:55 PM  Permalink
I don't know why so many people belive this. It is completely irrational. There is no evidence to support your point.

I understand the left parties are against the deal because they don't want India to threaten China at any cost.

Either that is your real motive, or else your argument is just nonsense. There is NO question of sacrificing our sovereignity here.

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@Patriotic Indian
by nickel biswas on Jul 08, 2008 07:44 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

>> The nuclear deal, only christians can rejoice cos it takes India closer to US, but HINDUS????

Really? Why does everything have to do with religion for you? This deal isn't even about the US and India. There are 44 members of the NSG, hundreds of member countrys in the IAEA. India is going to them for approval, not the USA. They are saying that they are willing to supply a large chunk of India's energy needs cheaply.

In an era of high oil causing high inflation, how can any resonable person be against this deal????

All the people who are against the deal come up with bogus arguments like this "Patriotic" Indian moron trying to incite religious tension at any opportunity.

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RE:@Patriotic Indian
by Prem Kumar on Jul 08, 2008 08:59 PM  Permalink

Nickel,
I too disagree with fundamentalist morons like him who bring relegion into this. Forget them.

Let's just talk about merits and demerits of the deal and the strategic alliance. This deal comes with lot of baggage.

India has to change its foriegn policy stand even before the deal was signed: "Voting against Iran in nuclear security issue". US congressman and Senator openly warned India to vote againt Iran if we want the deal to complete. This is atrocious; these petty politicians threatening our great nation.

Also, India has no enmity against Iran. Actually, we have had very good relationship with them. Iran is the only country which kind of vetoed the resolution, moved by pakistan, condemning India in OIC [organuzation of Islamic countires conf] some 20 years ago. It even gave permission for India to use its airspace and land incase of war with Pakistan. why should we vote against a friend?

This is just the beginning and we will lose much more than what we gain from this alliance.

Agreed, nuclear energy is important but we have other options and US is not only way to go.


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RE:@Patriotic Indian
by abhishek nair on Jul 08, 2008 08:52 PM  Permalink
Spot on...it's these emotional and insecure outbursts that have held India back for so many decades.

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Do we have a state THINK TANK for long term? - A Non Political
by harbir bhadana on Jul 08, 2008 06:22 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

One the lines of RAW or say PANTAGON of US, we do need to have agency which can take care of Indian Interest for a long term view, with team compromising for 5years 10 years 20 years or even for 50 years plan. At present we have only NSA ( as far as i know). These teams should have inputs as well as advisories to RAW, Defence, police inteligence,LS Speaker and should directly work under President. All the major issue should be routed through that agency. So that all citizens are not fooled by the so called political POLICY or back door deals or political oportunism. Some time some traties seems sweet may impact badly after 10-20 years.

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RE:Do we have a state THINK TANK for long term? - A Non Political
by Sathish N on Jul 08, 2008 06:25 PM  Permalink
What the agencies should do is mostly different from what they do. They serve their master to better future prospects. The common man has to be more responsible in electing the right candidates.

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government has lied to the people of India over the nuclear deal.
by Sathish N on Jul 08, 2008 06:16 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

MMS is another Bush.

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RE:government has lied to the people of India over the nuclear deal.
by Anup Nair on Jul 08, 2008 06:17 PM  Permalink

well said.
With no majority support, he is selling the nation.

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RE:government has lied to the people of India over the nuclear deal.
by Crab on Jul 08, 2008 06:39 PM  Permalink
brothers of sahadevan (idiots)

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say no to deal
by Anup Nair on Jul 08, 2008 06:13 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


Looks like most people in this forum are taking that deal is in national interest.The deal is in the interest of america and not India.IF you think India will be full of lights after the deal think again, the nuclear energy will meet only less than 10% of our needs.But we effectively give ourselves to US in that matter.
Just think, IF SOMEONE TOLD YOU, I WOULD GIVE YOU ELECTRICITY AT HOME ONLY TO MEET 10% OF YOUR NEEDS, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT I SAY, MY ENEMY WILL BE YOUR ENEMY, YOU WILL HAVE TO TOE MY LINE ON VARIOUS ISSUES AND IN SHORT YOU WILL HAVE TO DANCE TO MY TUNES................Will you accept this???????? This is what you get wuth the deal,may be unwritten but clearly implied..

BJP supporters in rediff, mostly pizza delivery boys in US,are supporters of nuclear deal, except for the BJP leaders, who were the original beggars of the deal.

These PIZZA delivery boys or walmart shelf fillers in US are so indebted to US that they refuse to see the long term interests of India.

And they would like it anytime of the day to do muslim-bashing. Ordinary Muslims can never do anything right.He is criticised for whatever he does. Poor ordinary educated muslims seem to hvae resigned to their miserable fate.What a pity.


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RE:say no to deal
by anaida raza on Jul 08, 2008 07:39 PM  Permalink
Left supporters are mainly welders, auto mechanics in Dubai..lol....

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RE:say no to deal
by Crab on Jul 08, 2008 06:40 PM  Permalink
nair means malloooo and this one is malloooo commieee. no hope

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RE:say no to deal
by RAVEENDRAN on Jul 08, 2008 06:41 PM  Permalink
what is mallu?

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RE:say no to deal
by abhishek nair on Jul 08, 2008 08:53 PM  Permalink
Do you have something against "PIZZA delivery boys" or "walmart shelf fillers"? They are doing honest work. Have you done an honest day's work?



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RE:say no to deal
by ouch on Jul 08, 2008 06:20 PM  Permalink
you do not know the meaning of diversification. And if you think 8% of our energy needs is insignificant, only God can help you. For eg, Natural gas supplies only 8% of energy needs so let us stop it and then watch as our import bills will soar further. Fools like you can only blindly support that jinnah loving Pakistani Advani

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RE:say no to deal
by ANNELA REDDY on Jul 08, 2008 07:57 PM  Permalink
So what do u think is the min figure in % to fulfill before we can go ahead with the Nuclear power generation ? Its shame to see "educated" people like you think cannot see things beyond those mere numbers. Its about diversification,looking at all possible technologies not one but all to fullfill our energy needs. Do you know why Wind energy solar energy etc are called tech of futre ? going by your statement its apparent that you dont think these are technologies to invest in cos there % could be something like 0.01 % ? Wht is your point ?

All i see its just one step in right direction and there are lot more to be made, ex start investing in renewable energry sources and there is no 1 solution for the energy needs for the coming generations.

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