RE:we love sri sri
by RightSaid Fred on Jul 08, 2008 12:17 PM Permalink
Yeah, as long as the participants shell our USD 500. Everything is okay after that. The (F)ART OF LIVING! Lo!
They empower us to live life better. And purposefully.
The religious gurus are supposed to be our guiding light and offer us the path to "nirvaan", have actually disillusioned more people. Jealously, one upmanship, anger, violence have overtaken so many "ashrams" and disciples of the so called religious gurus. In the process, the disciples have become more dis-illusioned than before.
The religious gurus always preach that disciples can and should not think beyond their own gurus. They always "coerce" the disciples to come to their feet for all solutions.
But spiritual gurus always pass on a small "diksha" or " simple guru mantra" that empowers the followers to lead a healthy and beautiful life. The followers are empowered and they find own solutions to their problems. They are empowered to resolves the conflicts in life. And they are empowered to help others.
We need more spiritual Gurus than so called religious gurus
have failed what they set to achieve in very first place.
RE:We need more Spiritual Gurus Like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar than religious Gurus
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 08, 2008 11:48 AM Permalink
- What happened to MODI?
RE:We need more Spiritual Gurus Like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar than religious Gurus
by Secular India on Jul 08, 2008 10:05 AM Permalink
Religion and gurus have no place in a civilized, educated society. Religion is useful to keep the 90% of the population "in check" and make sure they do not misbehave.
Sri Sri Ravi S indulges bigots like Zakir Naik who is an open advocate of Islamic bigotry and says only Islam should be allowed in Muslim countries because it is the only religion acceptable to Allah (assuming Allah is God). In those farce debates Sri Sri just keeps mum and hes not even arguing. The why call it a debate? Love alone is not enough, it is necessary to also get a spine.
RE:SriSri no spine
by manju puri on Jul 08, 2008 10:23 AM Permalink
No one is Hindu, muslim or christain by birth.People like zakir naik are sure to go to hell.
It is against islamic teaching to condemn other religion. They follow a person Mohamed.He was neverr jealous of other messangers. We follow teaching of other saints, Simple!
RE:RE:SriSri no spine
by mumbai on Jul 08, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
What will be the food for your next meal? Can you programm your one day happenings? can you decide it? how can you decide about another person?
RE:SriSri no spine
by manju puri on Jul 08, 2008 03:46 PM Permalink
Yeah right who is Zakir naik to decide which is best religion, and who is true follower
RE:RE:SriSri no spine
by deepak on Jul 08, 2008 05:51 PM Permalink
You dont seem to get the point Manju..Zakir Naik is allowed unopposed to get away with his BS in the same forum as Sri Sri. FYI it is not against the teaching of Islam to claim its supremacy. In case you didnt know that is the core Islamic teaching that it is the last and perfected religion from Allah. Every one else is unacceptable to Allah.
RE:RE:SriSri no spine
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 08, 2008 10:17 AM Permalink
- People like Ravi Shankar are not for one-upmanship. He believes in giving others space and create his own space for peaceful co-existence.
If somebody believes that only Islam is the only religion acceptable to Allah, then be it. He either believed in Islam and got converted or just became a Muslim by birth. That's his belief. There is no point arguing about it.
RE:SriSri no spine
by deepak on Jul 08, 2008 05:47 PM Permalink
Dear Mohanty The why engage in these stupid debates??? just for the publicity??? why was Zakir Naik not rebutted??? why is he not simply pointed out that any claim of Zakir can only lead to religious supremacy?? if ordinary people like myself find it objectionable then why does Sri Sri not contradict what goes against his basic principle? The fact is indulging Zakir does more harm than promote peace. Just listen to this guy on the Quran TV - the man is a pure IslamoNazi, openly advocating the unique greatness of his religion and the rest as 'Unacceptable' to God. Sri Sri also makes some unnecessary errors which his followers should point out. He is an admirer of the spiritual Lebanese poet Kahlil Gibran but credited him as a Muslim. Kahlil Gibran is a Lebanese Christian and not Muslim, who migrated to USA.
RE:SriSri no spine
by RightSaid Fred on Jul 08, 2008 12:20 PM Permalink
If he is a Guru, the "enlightened one" why the hell does he move around in luxuries? Why the hell does he charge money for? Bah!!! This is bullshit!
A Guru does not need to go anywhere. If he has even 1% of truth in him and what he preaches, people will GO to him!
RE:RE:SriSri no spine
by deepak on Jul 08, 2008 05:55 PM Permalink
Gurus are needed to keep India's spiritual wisdom alive...if Gurus are gone, then psychiatrists shrinks will fill the void. Humans will always need spiritual guidance & religion in one form or another. The vast reservoir of Hindu wisdom needs to be propagated, because otherwise people will be doing Crusades or Jihad. Like all people gurus need to be rewarded as well, just like a doctor charges fees for treating you. Do not expect altruism in the 21st century. Good gurus is what you want.
RE:SriSri no spine
by New Blogger on Jul 08, 2008 10:04 AM Permalink
Guruji preaches love for all. See god in everybody around you.. Don't think the person next to you is Muslim or Christian.. See him as a creation of god.. Why should Guruji argue with anybody.. His job in this world is to spread love & knowledge.
RE:SriSri no spine
by mumbai on Jul 08, 2008 11:35 AM Permalink
There are many gurus still living and some passed away. 90% of them have been proved having kama/ lust for money etc etc. recently also two boys found dead near an ahram of a guruji who give lecture in sony TV. those boys were studying in the ashram. this news will be covered up. ok gurujis keep your aim.
RE:SriSri no spine
by Secular India on Jul 08, 2008 09:46 AM Permalink
Sri Sri only preaches to the converted. He won't dare go anywhere near the actual cause of violence in the world - the Islamic countries. I know he went to Baghdad last year but he spent most of his time in the green zone with Americans and Iraqi government officials and prisoners.
RE:SriSri no spine
by shashank alave on Jul 08, 2008 10:07 AM Permalink
I totally disagree to this views. I think author of this mail know only little about Guruji. I had read book in which various peoples have written their experiences . One of the experience is Guruji had even gone to place like Saudi Arabia and there he not only recd warm welcome, but also conducted his training and that also among normal peoples not prisoners.
RE:SriSri no spine
by Secular India on Jul 08, 2008 04:14 PM Permalink
gone to Saudi Arabia and preached there ???? to the House of Saud's , to their women ?????? they won't even give him a visa. He went to Iraq because Americans wanted him there.
It was great and was very proud that yoga that we inherited from our ancestor is making such big difference world over. One of my friend from Israel, is the lead instructor of Manhattan yoga club. He says that any human being should be forever thankful to India which came up with such great thing as Yoga. As mentioned by many other message posters below Yoga has great following with dedicated yoga practitioner all over the world.
RE:I attended this programme on July 4th
by jignesh bond on Jul 08, 2008 09:21 AM Permalink
Well in India we are lucky that Govt. with our italian boss has not declared yoga with hinduism and thus communal. As someone mentioned below we had more respect as hindus under Akbar, Shahjehan, British then by our present day leader.
RE:I attended this programme on July 4th
by Secular India on Jul 08, 2008 09:32 AM Permalink
Maybe you should go back to living as slaves under the moghuls and british. There is a train to Lahore everyday which you can take or for that matter there are janitor jobs a plenty at Heathrow waiting for you. '
Stupid people just know how to whine ... not knowing that government patronage is the best way to destroy something. Its best government stays one mile away from anything religious. Sri Sri Ravishankar got fame in India before he went abroad because of the freedom he has here. So also other sundry babas - real as well as fake.
RE:I attended this programme on July 4th
by deepak on Jul 08, 2008 09:38 AM Permalink
He is right when he says...more harm has been done to the Hindu ethos in independent India by Congress and the Communists than under the British.
RE:I attended this programme on July 4th
by Secular India on Jul 08, 2008 09:41 AM Permalink
Like ???? abolishing caste system , untouchability , reservations for backwards, abolishing zamindari system, women's rights, equal voting for all. I know Congress has not been good for the upper caste and existing elite - so that is why guys like you are really , really unhappy.
RE:I attended this programme on July 4th
by deepak on Jul 08, 2008 06:01 PM Permalink
Like making India an Islamic country - where there is more shariah than in Pakistan or Bangladesh where some amendments have been allowed. Like allowing the division of India yet not defining what India should be and not preventing Pakistan to go Islamic, kick out all Hindus from there. For relegating Hinduism into a non religion whereas allowing Hindus to be kicked out from Kashmir. India today has become a non assertive nation.
can u imagine this happening in INDIA?? unfortunately we consider anything connected to Hinduism as communal...I think Hindus had much more freedom under Islam and Christian rulers than the present day Hindus themselves.
"In addition, the New Jersey General Assembly passed a resolution "to acknowledge that Sri Sri Ravi Shankar has been furthering the best of human instincts, traits and characteristics...; for promoting sustainable growth in poor rural communities...; for Art of Living which assists at-risk youth in turning away from gang violence, drugs and alcohol toward a life of greater generosity and service...".
RE:wish India could appreciate his work
by ravichandran subramanian on Jul 08, 2008 08:00 AM Permalink
present day rulers of Indi are not Hindus by any means
RE:wish India could appreciate his work
by Indian heart on Jul 08, 2008 09:02 AM Permalink
you are right ravichandran...... present rulers are the best political manipulators of the era and do not have any interest in the good og country
RE:wish India could appreciate his work
by deepak on Jul 08, 2008 09:41 AM Permalink
It needs to spread as a religion...as a religion Hinduism spread far and wide in medieval times throughout South East Asia as far as Bali. Hinduism should not only be a way of living but has core beliefs, pilgrimages, marriage & life rituals etc. It is a major religion and spreads without missionary activity. The beauty of Hinduism should be shared by all through propagation.
RE:wish India could appreciate his work
by Rajendra Rao on Jul 08, 2008 02:39 AM Permalink
Also- please realize that Yoga is now taught by Americans all over USA, in schools, in competetive sporting events, in universities, everywhere.
The world needs more Gurus like Sri Sri Ravishankarji to guide each one of us how to distinguish between integrity and dishonesty, reason and non-reason, show discretion in life, and not be swayed by impermanent emotions resulting in us hurting and denigrating one another.
May everyone work towards self realization, self liberation, knowledge, purity, sacrifice and joy.
RE:More Sri Sris needed
by prashant jadhav on Jul 08, 2008 03:08 AM Permalink
I agree.He has trasnformed the lives of many people and has continously strived towards bringing in peace, harmony and love.Jai Gurudev