He has said this because it was a Church. He would would have gone ahead and performed a Namaaz if it was a mosque. He dare not utter anything for the consequences political and personal. However if it was a temple he would have ridiculed the scripltures and customs since a Religion tolerates people of all types and behaviour unlike others. In a temple he will be communal in other place he is secular.
It is strange & funny to hear Karunanaidhi's taking the name of GOD whom he never believed.He appears got confused and unaware as to what he is talking!On one hand,he says that it is not important as to whether he believes in God or not and on the other,he says that Almighty accepted him for the service of the poor.What does he mean?Does he mean that Almighty is different from GOD?Does he he not know the simple fact that Almighty is nothing but omnipotent which again is nothing but God.Why is it an insult if some one asks as to whether believes and in God or not?What is this duplicity ?Karunanidhi's stance in Rama Sethu"& his being an aethist is a well known to all.Why this drama again?Whom does he want to fool again & again?Has he forgotten that he did not act in a manner which was not acceptable to God when he made so much of'ruppus'on Rama Sethu In his bid to oppose his political opponent Jaya and people behind her who are predominantly from upper class believing in God and worshipping one of the forms of God-Rama with whose life story the Sethu is associated,with his mediocre knowlegde,he questioned the antecedents,lineage of the God's dynasty and archeological proof etc AS IF he is able to,at least,tell the names of all his ancestors-say forefathers to forefathers etc.. Therefore,for convenience sake and to appease people,let him not take the name of God.Those who outwardly oppose God are HIs innate lovers in the heart of heart.Let him surrender to the Almighty.
Antonio Giorgi, a wrote a book in 18th century . The book is about how Krishnas story is corrupted form of bible. He went on to say that even Bhagavatgeeta is borrowed from new testament. There are striking similarities between them and it suggests that one is only a copy of other.
There has been a huge debate over this book and many scholars joined the debate.
They were looking for proofs ouside the bible and Bhagavatha and finallt got one
Sometime in the third century BCE, Meghasthenes journeyed to India. His book Indica mentioned Krishan Bhakti movements.
The answer is obvious. Bible stories are copied from Bhagavatha.
Read full story at burningcross dot net and go to the article borrowing theory.
Where is your creator GOD? The universe seems to be infinite. If you have an idea of end, logically, there has to be something beyond that.
Now, the creator, he cannot be outside the creation as the outside has to be created. He cannot be inside. For excample, you cannot create a chair by sitting on it.
The only alternative is that the creation itsleft is GOD and Brahman.
Pl search for The Skeptics Annotated Bible to get category-wise verses like Absurdities, Contradictions, Hatred, Good-stuff, etc from The Bible (both Old Testament and New Testament), The Quran and The Book of Mormon.
RE:The Skeptics Annotated Bible
by JGN on Jul 04, 2008 06:50 PM Permalink
Pl search for Christian Aggression dot org to know more about some noble works done by the Christians in Kerala (including sister Abhaya case)!!!
What you to say about a hybrid called "Anglo-Indians" in Kerala, Goa and some other parts of India? Why do you talk about 'sambandham' only? Forget about Christian missionaries reforming our native society, they could not even reform the Christian society. Have you heard of Mary Roy (mother of famous author Arundhati Roy)case which was contested up to the Supeme Court of India? That was for enforcing her rights over ancesteral property. The Christian personal law does not allow inheritance to the daughters!
Have you heard names like "Chacko Pulayan" and "Orotha Pulayi" or about Latin Catholics (converted fisher folks)? Or about separate cemetries for the "dalit Christians" ? So much for the reforms brought in the Scoeity by Christian missionaries. Pl don't try to fool others.
RE:@ Nanchil
by Nanchil on Jul 04, 2008 06:34 PM Permalink
NO christian is compelled send their women to the harems of british. When foreigners entered India they married Indian women thereby hybrid variety emerged. This is happening even today in US. Have you heard of Afro-Americans like obama? But only in u r dirty culture one women has several husbands and sex-partners. Shame on you for talking about culture.
RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jul 04, 2008 06:40 PM Permalink
Nanchil, I do not like to drag women folks into the discussion. It is well known fact the christians women are of not so good character, the wrold over.
Karuna is a non-believer of Religion and God. So, by participating in Church function/Ramzan he clearly shows that these are not really Religions and Gods. They are just two organisations.
Nanchil, you are just bluffing. The Christians also worship Idols. What is the statue of Jesus on Cross, Statue of Mother Mary (alone, standing with infant jesus in her hands and also standing with infant jesus in her hand alongwith Joseph, etc????
RE:RE:@ Nanchil
by Nanchil on Jul 04, 2008 06:05 PM Permalink
You have a poor memory. Read my answer I gave you earlier. Please do not say again that you had a great culture. I don't like to hurt you.
RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jul 04, 2008 06:07 PM Permalink
Yes, I know about the culture of those who deserted their ancestors for a few kgs of rice and cheap American milk powder.
RE:@ Nanchil
by Nanchil on Jul 04, 2008 06:31 PM Permalink
Do not babble like saffron monkeys. My ancestors were richer than yours having acres of farmland. They converted mainly becuase your ancestors, shameless fellows who sent their women to namboodiris' bedrooms, harassed them.
RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jul 04, 2008 06:43 PM Permalink
You are again bluffing. The women never went to the Nambooridri's house as matrileneal system was prevalent in Kerala and the women were the owners of land.
It was the namboodiri's who visited the ancesteral homes and the women were at liberty to get rid of such relationship at their whims
RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jul 04, 2008 06:52 PM Permalink
Nanchil, so you are admitting that your ancestors were gutless cowards who could not fight the system. They rather opted to embrace an alien culture for some crumbs of bread from the European colonizers!
RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jul 04, 2008 06:12 PM Permalink
Pl visit the web of "Positive Atheism" and also Christian aggression dot org to know more about the noble works of the Christian missionaries.
Mr karunanidhi, have you acted in a manner acceptible to the GOD in your 80 yrs on this earth? Which GOD you are talking about? You have no gods and you are an athiest. That is you have been propagating all these yrs. Suddenly you started believing in GOD? Just because your time has come?.Stop preaching what you do not believe in.
RE:@Ashish raval
by Nanchil on Jul 04, 2008 05:32 PM Permalink
Only some false philosphies in hinduism encourage some ugly practices like idol worship, animal worship,etc.
RE:RE:@Ashish raval
by ashish raval on Jul 04, 2008 05:46 PM Permalink
Nanchil, follow my advice buddy, 1) You cannot visualize infinity and hence you need some face you can think about in your mind when you close your eyes and pray to supreme right, for hindu's it is much more open, if i am an european i naturally visualize the face which is european, if i am africe i would like my god to be black in colour as i like afterall it is about me following the god in whichever shape and size i want to visulaize, humans cannot be forced to follow one figure or onething it is absolutely bolloks.
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by Nanchil on Jul 04, 2008 05:51 PM Permalink
Figure is not required to pray God. When billions of people worship without idols why only hindus require them? See our prayer like a meditation. By worhipping idols and animals you are humiliating God, the Almighty.
RE:@Ashish raval
by ashish raval on Jul 04, 2008 06:00 PM Permalink
Christian meditation !!! ho ho ho just like Christian Yoga !!! hahahaha.... Meditation and Christianity i cant stop laughing at you oh no i just saw Jesus doing Meditation with Lotus Mudra before Mount Kailash and yes i also found an 2000 year old St. John's verse where he said a place where you could find a whole book of meditation !!! Boy go back and read you scriptures again and come back to argue.
RE:@Ashish raval
by JGN on Jul 04, 2008 05:58 PM Permalink
Nanchil, you are just bluffing. The Christians also worship Idols. What is the statue of Jesus on Cross, Statue of Mother Mary (along, standing with infant jesus in her hands and also standing with infant jesus in her hand alongwith Joseph, etc????
RE:RE:@Ashish raval
by Pheonix on Jul 04, 2008 05:34 PM Permalink
You can worship an asian(jesus) with european face...blue eyes,blonde hairs,fair skin......but we do idol worship?? really good comment
RE:@Ashish raval
by Pheonix on Jul 04, 2008 05:36 PM Permalink
who are you some pastor....indulging in converting the illetrates.....you are yet to answer my question....who copied whom?
RE:@Ashish raval
by Nanchil on Jul 04, 2008 06:01 PM Permalink
Krishna's life is controversial and is not a role model to follow. Krihsna has acted like a play boy during his young stage. While Jesus preaches love and affection Krishna encouraged violence. Krishna after death did not resurrect. He has said he is the protector of four varnas which is not just.
RE:@Ashish raval
by Pheonix on Jul 04, 2008 05:46 PM Permalink
..........................Krishna can also be written as crishna or christ....................when both were born both the respective kings ordered all the children of the kingdom to be killed.............both are also known as shephards..........both have told that they will come back to earth..........both their parent knew befor their birth that they were divine person..........both of them leaves their place of birth at childhood and return back........Krishna gospel geeta,and christ bible........etc........now tell me who copied whom
RE:@Ashish raval
by Nanchil on Jul 04, 2008 05:39 PM Permalink
It is your hindu-mentality which even identify God with race and nationality. God is for everyone. For both literate and illiterate. Explain your question.
RE:@Ashish raval
by Pheonix on Jul 04, 2008 05:56 PM Permalink
Both have perform miracles in their life time........you have concept of three wise men and hindus have trimurthy concept.....star follows the place birth for christ,and bharani nakshatram is time krisna is born....both are born in cave like envoirnment.....both died an unnatural death......etc...these are not few similarities...........this is blatant copy.....
RE:@Ashish raval
by ashish raval on Jul 04, 2008 05:31 PM Permalink
So how can you believe there is a supreme power when you cant show it ? you have some logic in your thoughts too.
RE:RE:@Ashish raval
by Nanchil on Jul 04, 2008 05:34 PM Permalink
Look around you will see his power. Look at the sky. All his creatures including your moon god, son god, monkey gods, snake gods,etc.
RE:@Ashish raval
by Nanchil on Jul 04, 2008 05:44 PM Permalink
No proof that Nature created all. If so why nature does not create now. Big bang theory is hypothesis still there is no proof.
RE:@Ashish raval
by ashish raval on Jul 04, 2008 05:41 PM Permalink
How do you know it is created by God ? It is created by Nature did you ever studied biology, Physics, Chemistry ? Sky !! What is sky it is space idiot, Moon is created by Big Bang and there are Billions of moons out there in space, snake gods !! what about jesus god ?
RE:RE:RE:@Ashish raval
by ashish raval on Jul 04, 2008 05:50 PM Permalink
Well, well well, if you dont want to believe nature created it it is upto you dont bang on your stupid logic on me. Ever heard of Geological Time Scales !! in millions of years, the change is very slow and gradual nothing can be created in spur of a moment. Nature is dynamic and ever creating but it will take lacs and millions of years to see the change.
