RE:Tell them to return our land and stop messing around with us
by Yoni Tantra on Jan 15, 2008 05:00 PM Permalink
The land you claim as yours was never yours in the first place....
RE:Tell them to return our land and stop messing around with us
by Sincere Citizen on Jan 15, 2008 05:05 PM Permalink
Really how do you know, did you get the answer from your name ? Mr. Maha mood ;)
RE:RE:Tell them to return our land and stop messing around with us
by Yoni Tantra on Jan 15, 2008 05:25 PM Permalink
Dear Sincre Citizen, my reply to you has been blocked I don't understand why? ... check sino indian war in wikipedia...
RE:Tell them to return our land and stop messing around with us
by Manjula A on Jan 18, 2008 03:11 PM Permalink
They also need to stop supplying Arms and nuclear arsenal to Pakistan.
When was Tibet a part of China before the 50s? When was Aksai Chin a part of China before they captured it? They know as well as everyone what the truth is. However, the world is not ruled by the meek and the beggars, but by the strong. So Mr. Singh in China should realize that it is India's strength that China will respect not diplomatic parleys trying to stop the Chinese from entering Arunachal etc. Post the army over there and kick them out ... if you can, Mr. Singh.
There are so many polices and Agreements between India and China,But what matters a lot is peace at boarders and good economy for us.UN Seat Backup is good.Seeing Bigger Developed Countries in todays prespective and their facilities,muscle and powers the two asian countries has a very long way to go.
Our policy seems more to prevent enraging of dragon rather than engaging the dragon. Fear drives our foriegn policy vis-a-vis China...Congress has still not got over the humiliation in made India suffer 45 years back. India's policy must work on a tit for tat framework against all its enemies. We want to win - we have to become a Ponting not a Kumble. Polite losers has many fans but they have a miserable life.
Can anyone please expplain in esimple English what concessions did India gain from China: 1) Will China stop supplying arms to the militants in NE? 2) Will China stop incursions into Arunachal? 3) Will China stop harping on McMohan Line? 4) Will China stop arms supply to Pakistan including JF 17, M 11 missiles and Nuclear weapons? 5) Will China Support for Security Council seat for India? 6) Will China vacate Aksi Chin? Remember Mansarovar and Kailash are in China? 7) Will China grant greater autonomy or independence to Tibet? If not what is PM doing there having Chinese Chilli Chicken? (That too BTW is Indian dish)
RE:The mesage is so confusing
by raj on Jan 15, 2008 09:57 AM Permalink
1) Will i get food today. 2) Will i get job today. 3) Will i get xyz today. Conclusion is be Optimistic. Don't think negative always. Our PM is Optimistic and Visionary person be leave him.
RE:The mesage is so confusing
by Rahul on Jan 15, 2008 10:08 AM Permalink
Yeah and eat optimism the way we are doing for last 60 years. Dream of a day when things will be in place, when I will have a job and eat too but donot do anything to get it. typical mark of a frustrated Indian congressi living on hope but not doing anything to change things
RE:The mesage is so confusing
by Hot Winter on Jan 15, 2008 10:29 AM Permalink
Yes Rahul you are correct, China has also captured Arunachal Pradesh, parts of Uttar Pradesh, Uttaranchal, Himachal Pradesh along with Akshai Chin and set up Chinese Highways in all these regions so that Indians can never get them back. Chinese are exploiting Indians.
RE:The mesage is so confusing
by Yoni Tantra on Jan 15, 2008 05:04 PM Permalink
Funny! You guys have not had any brush with history or what.... self certified patriots,
Vinash in the name of Vikas for last 60 years. Congress said at AICC conference that UPA done each and every thing what said Common Minimum Programme. Then what Bharat Nirman?
RE:Vinash in the name of Vikas for last 60 years. Congress said at AICC conference that UPA done each and every thing what said Common Minimum Programme. Then what Bharat Nirman?
by Ariel Katz on Jan 15, 2008 09:42 AM Permalink
The mad man Sahadevan is back. Watch out.
China has put many barriers internally such as exporting equipments to china need to fulfill chinese standards and quality requirements. UNFORTUNATELY, there is no such requirement from India. Hence indian suppliers face enough problems to export to china but import from china is completely barrierless.
Sending Indian workers to china is very difficult but getting chinese workers to India is very easy.
Unfortunately, Nehru was given similar impressions of bhai bhai and then he failed miserably. Unless the relations are mutually beneficial, the BOP issue can not be resolved.
RE:history repeats... can we learn???
by vijay band on Jan 15, 2008 01:57 PM Permalink
"Sending Indian workers to china is very difficult but getting chinese workers to India is very easy."
The opposite is true, please check all the criticizing for Indian visa policy.
RE:history repeats... can we learn???
by Yoni Tantra on Jan 15, 2008 05:32 PM Permalink
Dear Vijay, you are right.... Funny, without studying any issue, we start shooting off out mouth based on popular perception... China has mooved on, we are still stuck with 1962... That was was due to follies of both sides.... Come on India Chak De... moove on...
RE:history repeats... can we learn???
by Yoni Tantra on Jan 15, 2008 05:41 PM Permalink
Nehru Created that Term "Bhai Bhai" to fool the Chinese when he carried on with the forward policy... Hadn't for his foolish policy, we wouldn't had had the war of loose Askai Chin to the Chinese. ALL HE MANAGED TO DO WAS FOOL HIMSELF. In addition if that Defence Minister Kaul was a little sensible, we could have repelled the attack.... Bhai Bhai my foot!! In addition, we need to be more pragmatic and handle our neighbours in a more mature fashion, as expected from a powerfull nation with thousands of years of civilazion... The impression I get in this discussion board is of a people who has already given up, and lost to the " CHINA"...
Manmohan's China trip is little else apart from the PMO's desparate gamble to hurreidly cook up some sort of "foreign policy success" and paint this servile and weak PM as some sort of 'statesman' before he is dumped, either by his Italian boss in 10 Janpath, or after the 2009 elections by the electorate. Manmohan and the Congress - in the python grip of the Red snakes - are all too willing to be taken in by China's false smiles, a bit of wining and dining here and there, and of course, China's promises and blatant lies, which has been Beijing's hallmark since the days of Mao and Zhou. Which means that we and our armed forces had better start matching China, and wait for a truly nationalist government. Jaganniwas Iyer
we can not neglect the fact that China will be the new superpower in the near future. This will have lot of implications on us. We just can not sit and watch. Every effort has to made to match China economically and militarily.
