marathi ghatis and kannadigas are two ugly sides of Indians.They call fellow indians migrants.If an Indian cannot come to some other part of India and earn a living then why do we call ourselves one country.why do we say that racism does not exist here, when it is all too apparent. Northies cant stand southies, kannadigas cannot stand tamilians, malayalees think they are superior to any other race in the world and look down upon others disparagingly, though they love licking the back side of the sheikhs in the gulf shamelessly and eat his left overs from his backside, the anti brahmin tirade in tamilnadu, where the choicest of abuses are hurled against brahmins even though they havent committed a crime and it is the jealousy of the lower caste cheapos who hurl abuses against brahmins, we all this is not racism. But when a white man abuses these racists then it is racism.Where are we.We are a failed state.India will go nowhere.let us wipe out racism in India before we talk abt racism anywhere else and learn to live like Indians not as mahrashtrians or kannadigas or punjabis.
RE:migrants
by Braveheart ThePatriot on Jan 06, 2008 12:27 AM Permalink
I fully agree with you . This was what these politicians tried to divide us among communal and regional lines and they have succeeded its a very sorry state of affairs that one Indian calling another Indian migrant we are the one country and will remain one what may happen JAI HIND
RE:migrants
by GSB on Jan 06, 2008 12:23 AM Permalink
Dear Mr Srinivas Swedaranyam, Marathis and Kannadigas are the most tolerant people who believe in accomodating everyone inspite of what the outsiders do. Yes there will be reactions at times so what? Wont Biharis react? Wont Punjabi's react? Your LTTE has killd so many people what do you have to say for that if you ask me LTTE killing more people is more ugly than Kannadigas and Marathis expressing their opinion. Shame on you. You kill innocent people and accuse others. Yo are Hypocrite of the worst kind.
RE:migrants
by srinivas swedaranyam on Jan 06, 2008 12:44 AM Permalink
Mr.GSB it is not my LTTE.LTTE is an enemy of the nation.It is not reaction.It is jealousy.Kannadigas and marathis are not expressing their opinion but r showing their hatred to fellow indians.I dont kill innocent people. U abuse hard working people.Cant tolerate when others make a living in ur state and do well by sheer dint of their hard work. U r the hypocrite here. U talk one thing and then do exactly the opposite.Kannadigas are the worst of all indians.they are the most stupidest and the most dumbest.
RE:migrants
by GSB on Jan 06, 2008 01:07 AM Permalink
Your mind is poisoned, And I guess you are suffering from some kind of wierd insecurities. In order to hide it you are here on the fourm trying to abuse Marathis and Kannadigas.
I do have tamil friends but they are not biased and poisoned like you are. Infact you are a disgrace to your own Tamil community. Iam not interested in debating with a poisoned and biased organism like you.
May god give you the strength to deal with your insecurities.
Shivsena should come above differentiating between marathi-gujarati-south indian-north indian. And their differentiation also differs case wise. Don't Shivsena leaders attend Amitabh Bachhan/Shahrukh Khan's programs (one is bhaiyya and other is north indian)?? Are they treating the same way to Ambanis who are Gujarati?? Mumbai is no one's property. Its a land of opportunity and anybody who can take the opportunity, is the winner. Regarding the gujaratis,south indians,north indians in mumbai... I think ShivSena should think long term goals and unite them all as Hindus...(as they call them Hindutva leaders) Or else they won't get anything by inducing a fight among the Hindus.
RE:Shivsena leaders - don't have a stand
by singh d on Jan 06, 2008 12:27 AM Permalink
You are right. Sometime feel Really I should die. It is very em brassing when someone treat me bhaiya. I can understand other people when they are treated. All these things becomes part of life for other state people in Mumbai. I know that population is huge and increasing which is impossible to stop. I feel shame in Mumbai. In my childhood, I never though of such situation. Now I am thinking people donot have respect here for each other. It is hatred society. Thank god still we live in peace
I just don't understand politics at all, what politicians say and for what is always hidden from common man. One side you open handedly welcome all communities around globe to your country to show how good you are and on other hand you keep fighting among yourself saying north and south? marathi and punjabi?
If anything like that happens abroad with our Indian community, how would you people feel?
In USA there are huge number of mrathis, what if people here start saying same for you? what would you feel then being an outsider? Why have you come to USA leaving your geat Maharashtra? of course for money, good living and so on, the same is the case with others who have come to Maharashtra from outside, why talk badly about them? Its duty of police, government and law bodies to maintain law and order. Do not put blame on other Indians. Think in terms of India not individual states, that is what patriotism teaches us!
RE:I Don't understand politics
by on Jan 06, 2008 01:15 AM Permalink
In US, UK there are certain criteria based on which people are permitted in the country. The people are allowed to work and when the need for that particular skill is not their, then the people are asked to leave enmasse. Do not teach patriotism to the people who originated concepts like patriotism in the first place.
RE:I Don't understand politics
by anurag khare on Jan 06, 2008 12:07 AM Permalink
right on the money, what if other states and countries say they don't need maharashtrians, then.........
RE:I Don't understand politics
by sandeep sulakhe on Jan 06, 2008 12:07 AM Permalink
I have to agree with you.A girl always talks sense..well,sometimes! ;)
RE:I Don't understand politics
by sandeep sulakhe on Jan 06, 2008 12:13 AM Permalink
Saying that I also think that the migrants from Bihar are the big unwanted lot.Its not wrong that they are coming here..its in their right..but the fact that they are increasing the crime and mess is equally true
thackrey and his kins are back to there dirty ways and why not if they are getting votes by playing these regionalistic cards they will go on because the general public in india dont have balls and thinking to oppose these self proclaimed kings of marathas who in reality are nothing more than the goons of the street . does anyone remember that how many times these so called nation lovers have put their hands up for uniting the country. their only achivement is raising useless issues like valentine's day or digging pitches or dividing nation in communal or regional lines. The hindus those were supporting them against muslims now would have realised that they will try to prove hindus better than muslims ,maharashtrian hindus better than other hindus and their own household better than every other maratha household. this is there ideology instead of trying to improve law and order of the city they have very cleverly made it an issue of regionalism and they have every right to do that as long as our people keep on putting there blind faith on them. If the unworthy citizens of this great country have even a slight feeling for this country stand up and tell them that we have had enough now we are not going to take your propoganda any more whatever difference we have we can slve them on our own and these buggers in power should better start working on those issues of basic amenetis for which they have been voted to power or else step down JAI HIND
RE:What a joke
by on Jan 06, 2008 12:31 AM Permalink
Idiot Maharashtra was created for Maharashtrians. So how can Maharashtrian be a migrant in his own state. You may not agree with a comment made by Mr. Thackeray, but do not make some idiotic comment just to answer.
Mumbai is mumbai because of it's cosmopolitian nature, why is not any other city in Maharashtra mumbai because hindu, muslims, sikhs, christians, bhaiyaas, ghatis, gujjus, annas everyone is here and everybody contributes, the need of the hour is proper management and not finger pointing
RE:Mumbai is mumbai
by on Jan 05, 2008 11:57 PM Permalink
Because everyone including idiots like you have come here proper management is not possible, and go back to where you have come from, may be then this place will become more livable
RE:Mumbai is mumbai
by shweta rai on Jan 06, 2008 12:04 AM Permalink
Only people like you who know nothing can write such a reply. If all the north Indians leave mumbai- imagine what your mumbai will look like and how it will function. Think over it for a day and then say anything. Actually, half of your transportation will stop and your household work too will stop. So, think before you speak man!
RE:Mumbai is mumbai
by anurag khare on Jan 06, 2008 12:12 AM Permalink
I work - I pay professional tax, I earn - I pay income tax, I have a house - I pay property tax, I use roads - I pay transport tax, I buy stuff - I pay sales tax....etc etc etc, I live in Mumbai it's my home, Mumbai is in India right and it's my right, remember, may I ask what has your shiv sena done for maharashtrians and mumbai
RE:RE:RE:Mumbai is mumbai
by on Jan 06, 2008 01:21 AM Permalink
Khare You have no right to ask anything you moron. Who has asked you to come here in the first place. It is because your native state provided you with nothing. Go to your state, pay taxes over there and make that a prosperous state and there you ask the politicians what they have done for the state.
RE:Mumbai is mumbai
by vijay tiwari on Jan 06, 2008 12:37 PM Permalink
On, just by barking in this site wont help no matter how loud u scream. mumbai or for that matter any part of india belongs to all indians.and he will decide where to live. mororn tere ko maha kya dahej me mila hai.
RE:RE:Mumbai is mumbai
by on Jan 06, 2008 01:20 AM Permalink
You have no right to ask anything you moron. Who has asked you to come here in the first place. It is because your native state provided you with nothing. Go to your state, pay taxes over there and make that a prosperous state and there you ask the politicians what they have done for the state.
There seems to be a lot of hatred towards particular communities. As someone pointed out, people do go to greener pastures for providing better living conditions to their families and society in general. It is the survival of the fittest. Where in the constitution does it say Mumbai belongs to Marathis, Chennai to Tamilians, Hyderabad to Teluguites, etc. Let's not divide the country based on languages, that would be unhealthy. India belongs to each and every Indian. We have social, moral, ethical responsibility towards it. If we keep our community clean and stand up to our principles people coming in later would be afraid to break the rules or atleast think twice before trying to do such an act. Again we have to keep in mind, these dirty scoundrel politicians will blow up anything upto the sky. Does Uddhav Thackeray know these guys personally or their parents. Nowadays even parents don't know how their children act whenthey are amidst their friends. Your company of friends decide how you behave in public. If u have a decent circle u tend to behave in a decent manner. If you have a handful of them who stray into the dark path, your mind plays games with you and says, ok this guy did it, lemme try it too. Also what were these ladies doing in a New Year Party coming down from the U.S or whereever. They thot they were in NewYork. Maybe they were dressed bad, becoming a clear target to the intoxicated group of boy. Again the media today potrays sex and violence as something cool.
RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by anurag khare on Jan 05, 2008 11:59 PM Permalink
Flocking to bigger cities is a worldwide phenemenon and not and mumbai specific thing, go to delhi, kolkatta or any other big city, if they can manage why can't we
RE:RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by on Jan 06, 2008 12:04 AM Permalink
Delhi and kolkatta have gone to dogs, they are not able to manage anything. Only Mumbai is just barely pulling on. Even your comparisons are wrong, and in case you are right, why do you not go to the places you mentioned may be you will be able to do better for yourself also.
RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by Meh on Jan 05, 2008 11:59 PM Permalink
The same thing can be said By US/UK/west that why doesnt India develop themselves rather then so many illegal migrants in thier country????
RE:RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by on Jan 06, 2008 12:03 AM Permalink
Look Meh US/UK/west etc all have standards, not every Tom , Dick , and /or Harry is permitted in the country. And when the need for people gets over, the excess people are thrown out en masse. Can we do the same things. Your thinking process is incorrect.
RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by Meh on Jan 06, 2008 12:09 AM Permalink
Read carefulla....i siad illegal migrants...dont you know that there are so many illigal migrants in US/UK/west.....check all the punjabis are/were illegal migrants
RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by shweta rai on Jan 06, 2008 12:06 AM Permalink
Why do Indian keep on Migrating to other parts of world? Why don't they try to develop their country? Thanks to IT that we have seen such growth in India, otherwise what had we done and where we stood before is known to all of us. Same is the case with these states
RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by on Jan 06, 2008 12:00 AM Permalink
What a foolish opinion what do you mean dressed bad. Do not give idiotic opinions. People are expected to behave, this is definitely migrant brain. Survival of the fittest and all that nonsense is good in a jungle not in the city and in the civilized world.
RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by Rebel on Jan 06, 2008 12:07 AM Permalink
You definitly have landed on a job "reserved for dhartiputras" ...must be a sweeper in BMC ....or Conductor or Driver ....if you don't believe in the dictum Survival of the fittest ....you deserve to live and enjoy in Goa ...and no there are not many bhaiyyas there ot disturb you
RE:RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by on Jan 06, 2008 12:36 AM Permalink
Rebel if survival of the fittest is what you want to talk about why not go to your native place where life is tough, go their and survive. Do not make stupid comments just to display your lack of brains. You showed what your ancestors have been doing all their life, because your choice of professions was an indicator of your standing.
RE:RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by shweta rai on Jan 06, 2008 12:08 AM Permalink
Survival of fittest is fit for every place,including your work place, living area, but you need to apply your brain to understand that which looks like you do not have. So, leave it
RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by on Jan 06, 2008 12:34 AM Permalink
Shweta if survival of the fittest is what you want to talk about why not go to your native place where life is tough, go their and survive. Do not make stupid comments just to display your lack of brains.
RE:RE:Don't Divide the county by the language boundaries
by on Jan 06, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
The UP and Biharis are the most criminal minded ppl one would find in India. Whereever these ppl go, they just indulge into crimnal activities.... I just dont know why? Always running behind shortcuts and unauthorised ways to get the things done.
After a long time the Sena has said the right thing. It's an absolute fact that North India lacks culture, lawlessness, lack of respect for and crime against women, corruption to huge proportions, lack of civic sense, lack of traffic sense, lack of respect to fellow citizens and so many. And such a population migrating to Mumbai is creating all the lawlessness and crime. Crime and North India are synonymous. Take a look at all autorickshaws and the way they disrupt traffic, take a look at all taxi fellows, their meters are always rigged especially those at Dadar TT station. You can never trust them. We could never see anyone breaking the line for auto and taxis in Mumbai especially at the airports. So also never any taxi or auto driver dared to demand extra than the meter fare and now each time we get into arguments. Take a look at the various Toll plazas to Mumbai. Those towards the North, Dahisar and even Ghodbunder and the traffic beyond is a mess. While those towards the east are so much better managed including the planning of ticket booths towards the driver. Despite heavy traffic, all such Nakas towards the east like Vashi, Airoli, Mulund are much better managed. Anything from the North and located towards the North is a problem. As compared to this Maharashtra and South Indian states are much better organised with God fearing persons. But all said and done what are all the local Marathi leaders doing ? They, including the Sena are busy wooing the North Indian vote ban
RE:migrants to Mumbai
by Meh on Jan 06, 2008 12:01 AM Permalink
No he is ghatti from Kolhapure who instead of working hard wants to be dependent on radicals
RE:migrants to Mumbai
by Rebel on Jan 05, 2008 11:58 PM Permalink
I stay at ghodbunder Road...
Majority Rickshaw drivers are Marathi manoos( the insiders) ....they refuse to ply from vadavli , waghbil areas to near by localities because they say "unko parvadta nahi hai " ...infact during day time they ask for "return fare " ....
RE:migrants to Mumbai
by on Jan 06, 2008 11:43 AM Permalink
One time, there were only Punjabi cab drivers.. biut now if u see it's all Bhayyas. They are making life miserable for the ppl of city by coming in lots from north india
RE:migrants to Mumbai
by real on Jan 05, 2008 11:56 PM Permalink
Aamchi mumbai?!....the worst place to live on earth..umm may be 2nd worst place to chennai
It is a shame that party like Shiv Sena which boast about Hindutva is hell bent on destroying the Hindu society by cultivating and spreading the weeds of poison. Actually this party is in decline and it is confused as to what stand should it take. Should they give priority to the 'Marathi Asmita' (to counter Raj Thackrey) or should they stick to Hindutva. Now we all know that Indian political parties have nothing like ideologies and they pay only lip service to it and hence the dichotomy.
Now coming to the 'Marathi Manoos' ideologues who have presented their views on rediff forum let me have a straight talk with you. A 'Marathi Manoos' is happy if he is earning a salary of 3000 rupees per month. If someone gives them an increment of 250 rupees per month they will be ecstatic and think that they are the 'King'. But he will never try to earn 10,000 rupees per month so that his standard of life increases dramatically. He lacks tha hunger that the other communities like the 'Bhaiyyas', the 'Lungis', the 'GaandaBhai' have to succeed. A 'Marathi Manoos' will always try avoid the hard work but still claim that whatever Mumbai is it is because of them.
So all the Ghatis on this board, just cool down, introspect about your well being and then come and talk to the hardworking Indians who can rightly claim that they built Mumbai. And long live Shiv Sena who should have created a kind of world record in corruption when they had power in Maharashtra.
RE:The Ghatis will never prosper!!
by on Jan 06, 2008 12:11 AM Permalink
This bhikari rajkumar has spoken and shown his lack of level. If this bhikari is really a rajkumar why does he not go to his native state and earn and live like whatever his status permits. It is cheap people like him who are responsible for North Indians being looked down upon. Be grateful and respectful. It has always been the culture to respect the hand that feeds. Had the Maharashtrians really opposed us we would not have been able to stay here and prosper. Also remember one thing the guests should not forget their Maryada, and their Dharam towards their Host. Remember one more thing, when you talk something you are a representative of your community, if you cannot do anything to increase the respect and goodwill for your community atleast do not do anything to disgrace your community.
RE:The Ghatis will never prosper!!
by GSB on Jan 05, 2008 11:51 PM Permalink
RK Singh.. I really want to understand.. Happy wit 250 increment ? are you telling me that marathis are not ambitious??
RE:The Ghatis will never prosper!!
by rajukunji on Jan 05, 2008 11:56 PM Permalink
Dear raj kumar agreed we are ghatis. but atleast we dont treat women like shit the way u do in ur native up and bihar. secondly talking about migrants people like u kripa shankar singh come here bring ur friends from up bihar. these people are illiterate they shit on road have sex in brothels while there wifes sleep with their elder brothers in there so called MULUK. u are none but people who are hungry for money and sex. u think females are just for having sex they dont have any right. in a ghati community the marraige expenses are shared by both the parties. u people ask for dowry and other demands from females side. try to improve ur thinking u 'bhaiyya from up"
RE:The Ghatis will never prosper!!
by RajKumar SIngh on Jan 06, 2008 12:05 AM Permalink
If the 'Bhaiyyas' take dowry it is between them. Atleast they don't start degrading the other communities which the 'Ghatis' show a lot of profanity for.
Let us get this straight. The atmosphere that is created on the rediff board is exactly what the Shiv Sena wants. They have sowed the poison in the Hindu society and they are now reaping it because the 'Marathi Manoos' believes them.
RE:The Ghatis will never prosper!!
by rajukunji on Jan 06, 2008 12:08 AM Permalink
sorry rajkumar if u had seen what mumbai was 30 years back u will come to know.we had very good transport system mumbai was much safer compared to other cities.
RE:RE:The Ghatis will never prosper!!
by rajukunji on Jan 06, 2008 12:10 AM Permalink
bhaiyyas atleast allow there wifes to sleep with there elder brothers when they themselves are working in cities earning money.
RE:RE:The Ghatis will never prosper!!
by anurag khare on Jan 06, 2008 12:05 AM Permalink
Dude if they are so bad and then also you people can't compete with them give a thought for yourself
only 18% of Mumbai are marathis and the rest are outsiders
Gujjus : Rich business men , stock brokers, land holding etc. Parsis : Industrailists ( TATA, Godrej etc ) & other business. Kannidigas : Hotels & Resturants ( Udupi & Shetty hotels ) , Bollywood and other business. BIMARU : everything from low class activities to Bollywood and Underworld.
Marathis : Politicians and local administrators and traditional land holding...
RE:Summary of outsiders in Mumbai....
by RajKumar SIngh on Jan 06, 2008 12:08 AM Permalink
Marathis: Corrupt BMC official, living in chawls, wearing sport shoes on formal trousers, believing that they own Mumbai, trying to show strength in numbers but when the number is small running away like a scared mouse etc etc
RE:Summary of outsiders in Mumbai....
by Meh on Jan 06, 2008 12:05 AM Permalink
Typical marathi manoos does not want to work hard but needs to have a Country liquor every night which is paid by the wife who works as house maid. They all support Shiv sena...so that when roit breaks they can loot shops
RE:Summary of outsiders in Mumbai....
by Rebel on Jan 05, 2008 11:52 PM Permalink
Add this one :
Marathis : "vargani collectors" , " stone throwing frustrated , lazy and "reservation demanding " dhartiputras ...or the insiders suffering from "faqt AC Office madhe 6 taas kaam karin " syndrome ...
