RE:i hope lalu in rail budget does not increase fare of locals...
by mortein on Feb 16, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
Poverty is not limited to one language or state. In other states, roles are reversed.
RE:RE:i hope lalu in rail budget does not increase fare of locals...
by mortein on Feb 16, 2008 12:44 PM Permalink
Let us stop putting labels on human beings.
Mr Tarun Vijay, in a world of averages, those who are not average cannot be accepted as models. You are not average. Is there anyone who is Indian? Is there really a Maharashtrian? These are matters of perception. One might not agree with the idea of sons of the soil within larger framework of Indian identity, but it exists, and not only in the minds of people of one linguistic group, but that of the others who look at that group. My being a Maharashtrian is not because. Today there are twenty five akh UPians and Biharis in Mumbai's population of more than one crore. I do not see how they are building India or Mumbai or anything else. Why should such unabated inflow not be stopped? Look at the completely overwhelmed state of civic amenities, what about the taxpayers in Mumbai, whatever language they may be speaking? Do they not have the first claim on what they are paying for? While advocating generosity to those who have to give, see what is being demanded. It is not being demanded that the identity of Maharashtrians be wiped out. Not now, but later this too will come. Why should these 'outsiders' not accept local leaders, but invite their state leaders to lead them in Mumbai? The cacophony of 'Indian voices' has been used effectively to supress the legitimate rights of local people of Mumbai and Maharashtra at large. I have seen that happening since the fifties and you are adding your voice to it, claiming chance of mixed background as a virtue.
RE:Is Being Indian Not Enough?
by cynic on Feb 16, 2008 12:43 PM Permalink
yeah right Suresh Bhave you are now trying to justify Raj's action by spouting large scale migration of poor people from UP/Bihar to cities like Mumbai. I hope you do not insist on UP/Biharis supporting rascals like Raj as a way of showing their gratitude to Mumbai. The problem of large-scale migration of poor people is true and there needs to be a pan Indian solution, sons of soil theory will not work it is only pushing the problems under the carpet, think like an Indian and then come up wth solutions. Else why have a concept called as India at all let us all split into a 29-30 countries and have separate flags. And once that happens very soon those 29-30 countries will start to resemble Africa.
I support your anguish and anger at such reactions from Marathi people (I am Marathi, too, but first I am an Indian)
However, I request you not to hate us or react in the same manner. we all are educated and love our nation. Decide whether you want divisive politics to succeed??? if yes...go on rampage...if no...ignore such elements and remain united...
The correct answer to tackle this problem is to start economic centres at various locations in India so that no one particular place gets crowded. Such centres should be even opende in remote places such as Bihar, Assam, Orissa, North-east and not only in Metros which have exhausted their capacities.
When the other parts of the country will prosper?? Why burden Mumbai, Bengalore, Delhi, Chennai, Kolkata...only??? Come on the problem is observed in all metros..not only in Mumbai...
I also join you in condemning any sort of violence against anybody.
Love India. More than anything.
And more vigourously now. Hamara Bharat mahan hai aur rahega.. Hum use kharab nahi hone denge. Kisibhi halat mein. Despite all the rotten politicians.
I have seen many good blogs here... good to see very talented people with good opinions... but plzz understand mumbai is a small island,land is limited,resources are limited,electricity problems is already seen in many parts of suburbs... in future water problem will also start,local trains are soo full that ppl get tired before reaching office... there is no issues for anyone coming from any part of india and work here in mumbai... but try to understand how much more ppl can this city take... population is growing within the city and people also coming from outside states.. my only concern is do anyone feel that leaving your state working for a meagre salary,staying away from family,wasting your agriculture land,is right... its a complete loss-loss situation... for everyone
RE:Can anyone explain this
by rexberry on Feb 16, 2008 02:07 PM Permalink
thanks jayesh... atleast you can understand the real ground situations... which can be never seen in media
RE:Can anyone explain this
by rexberry on Feb 16, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
personal attack in blogs doesnt make anyone great.... for building infrastructure there should be land not population....please start pouring sand in the sea so that land increases...so start doin it now
RE:Can anyone explain this
by Vijay Beleri on Feb 16, 2008 12:39 PM Permalink
an apartment flat and car consumed water as much as a hundred poor migrant workers. so if its a water problem.. stop this indiscriminate development.. not beat the por biharis
RE:Can anyone explain this
by rexberry on Feb 16, 2008 12:43 PM Permalink
ok vijay... before coming up with your comments thanks to media... lets check the ground reality... if possible go to kalyan station CST station dadar stations from where all these trains arrive... just check how people travel fro 2 days coming to mumbai from there respective states... i have seen the rush and its equivalent to local trains.... one more example i will give u about vidharba farmers ... yes many have done suicide but they didnt migrate... i bet you many have relatives in mumbai but still they wont burden anyone with there presence... sometimes small life with self respect is thousand times better than leading a long life with only humiliation
RE:Can anyone explain this
by cynic on Feb 16, 2008 12:50 PM Permalink
rexberry you are lying man marathis have emigrated in the past are emigrating now and will emigrate in the future too. Emigration will always happen, don't try to paint of only Marathis being self-respecting. Why do people emigrate, they mainly do so for a better life and unless conditions dont change emigration will always happen. And by the way attack only poor people Raj does not have the guts to tackle South Indians, Gujarathis etc anymore as they will retaliate.
RE:Can anyone explain this
by rexberry on Feb 16, 2008 12:53 PM Permalink
again i will give the same reply to cynic... lets chk the ground reality Thanks to laloo there are many trains cumin to mumbai u can analysis urself... DOES MEDIA HAVE THE GUTS TO SHOW THIS REAL PICTURE NO THEY WONT
RE:Where were you when bihari's killed in Assam
by cynic on Feb 16, 2008 12:24 PM Permalink
Raj and all UP/Bihar are one and the same, we should stop electing them and develop megacities all over India.
