RE:I wnt to start a new religion..........
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 04:00 PM Permalink
Dear abhinav, pl stop posting this now. It has lost is novelty!!!!!!
It good to see pakis bought a new missile from china...pakis did u scratched out the MADE IN CHINA??? from it...Never mind..
U pakis if u really have guts target Maharasthra with that missile then we will accept u have some militray power.. (atleast few maharasthra racist will be killed..plz god save india atleast this way))
RE:Target Maharasthra then..
by ezekielrage on Feb 14, 2008 02:07 AM Permalink
Do you know what will happen if Mumbai were to perish? India will go back to stone age racist or not.
There was no word called ISLAM or Muslim in the arab world. They were the descendants of Abraham/Ibrahim until Prof. Mohammad started this religion. The children of Ishmael have become Muslims & the children of Isaac are Jews/Israelites .The Egyptians were not Muslims ( they worshiped other gods).The Persians(IRAN/IRAQ) also were not Muslims, just like our pakis & Indian muslims. They were forced to convert to Islam just like Aurangazeb did. But as you say there is controversy, the Bible says Isaac was taken for being sacrificed, but the bakrid festival celebrated says Ishmael was to be sacrificed. So which book is true. Then I believe that the laws of Islam are very very similar to the laws of mosses. and the funniest part is there is Children of the same ancestors fight among them selves. The Muslims doent want to accept that Jews are their relatives.
RE:islam
by sami qureshi on Feb 13, 2008 04:12 PM Permalink
mr kishore no body force the people to convert the religion . kuran is a fact better to read kuran and understand what is right and what is wrong .and dont blame to mohammed or auranzeb
RE:islam
by Farooq on Feb 13, 2008 03:59 PM Permalink
you dont know history of relgions...user is advised to do research then type in here..user terminated
RE:islam
by kishore on Feb 13, 2008 04:03 PM Permalink
what is history, if you can tell. If this is false then what is truth.I think you have to first digout history book.
RE:Funny missile names
by A P on Feb 13, 2008 05:59 PM Permalink
I have not seen anytime in India's history that the 'brutal' hindus invaded any other country. Do you have an example mubi?
It was always muslims and others who invaded india. the first muslim in india was made when bin qasim invaded sind..
In modern time you can compare these invasions to bush's iraq invasion.. he invaded them saying he is going to liberate them..
RE:Funny missile names
by mubi rasool on Feb 13, 2008 10:04 PM Permalink
Mate Ap
Ur prejudices will only get u to devaite from the reality that more. its always difficult for a non mulism and then too a prejudiced one to understand how islam trasnforms you. If i have the resources i ll come to hunt the perpetrators who massacred muslims in gujraat.killin an innocent is not permissible even if a muslims kills but dont blame islamm and to set the records straight goories and ghaznavis are muslim folklore heroes, they only came to the rescue of people who were bein ill treated by some raja, Muhammad bin qasim came coz the hindu raja had kidnapped a ship of muslims goin for hajj it had kids old men and women in it.bharat matta inhay kuch nahi aata
RE:Funny missile names
by ezekielrage on Feb 14, 2008 02:14 AM Permalink
So you are saying Bin Qasim massacred thousands to avenge the capture of a ship to Hajj? Then how do you say that the massacre of Muslims for capture and burning of the Godhra Train is wrong?
RE:RE:Funny missile names
by JGN on Feb 13, 2008 05:09 PM Permalink
The general policy of most of the rulers during the 700 years of Muslim occupation of India was to systematically replace the fabric of Hindu society and culture with a Muslim culture. They tried to destroy Indian religions, language and places of knowledge (universities e.g Nalanda were totally destroyed by Muslims). They destroyed and desecrated places of thousands of temples including Somnath, Mathura, Benaras, Ayodhaya, Kannauj, Thaneswar and in other places. There was wholesale slaughter of the monks and priests and innocent Hindus with the aim to wipe out the intellectual bedrock of the people they overran.
The Muslims could not subjugate India with ease and were never able to rule it entirely. There was a valiant and ceaseless struggle for independence by Hindus to deliver India from Muslim tyranny. The Rajputs, Jats, Marathas and Sikhs led this struggle in North India. In the South this struggle was embodied in the Vijayanagar Empire. This struggle culminated when the Marathas ended the Muslim domination of India.
Joseph said unto his father: O my father! Lo! I saw in a dream eleven planets.--12:4
Humans created from a single man. 4: 1
Homosexual acts are condemned as unnatural. (Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you?) 7:80-81
Humans created from a single man. 7:189
Joseph saw in a dream eleven planets. Does this mean that according to the Quran there are eleven planets in our solar system? 12:4
The sun rises and sets at particular places on a flat earth. At the westernmost point on earth, the sun sets in a muddy spring. 18:86, 90
The Pharaoh threatens to crucify Hebrews on palm tress. (But crucifixion was a Roman form of punishment that was unknown at the time.) 20:71
The earth is fixed and does not move. 27:61
"The sun runneth on unto a resting-place for him." 36:38
"We decked the nether heaven with lamps."> Allah put "lamps" in the lower heaven to serve as lights. These are the stars that we see in the sky at night. 41:12
"Who hath created seven heavens ... Canst thou see any rifts?" Allah asks Muhammed to examine the sky to see if it has any cracks. 67:3
Allah made the stars as missiles to throw at devils. 67:5
At the end of the world the earth with the mountains will be lifted up and crushed with one crash. 69:14
"And hath made the moon a light" This verse implies that the moon produces its own light, rather than reflecting light from the sun. 71:16
RE:Science and History in the Quran
by Genesis on Feb 13, 2008 06:20 PM Permalink
Dear Avinash, The knowledge mankind posesses is very limited. We are not sure about our own planet, what can we say about the universe. For some decades we were thing Pluto is a planet, now astronomers have discovered that it is not a planet !!! So we are yet discover lot many things about our own planets and universe. That does not mean The Quran is wrong !!! I have quoted the correct translation from Yusuf Ali, well known Quran Translater. You can find the correct translation - just google for Quran english translation by Yusuf Ali.
A few are quoted below...
27.61. Or, Who has made the earth firm to live in; made rivers in its midst; set thereon mountains immovable; and made a separating bar between the two bodies of flowing water? (can there be another) god besides Allah. Nay, most of them know not.
67.5. And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.
71.16. "'And made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (Glorious) Lamp?
81. 2. When the stars fall, losing their lustre;
67.3. He Who created the seven heavens one above another: No want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of ((Allah)) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again: seest thou any flaw?
12.4 When Joseph said unto his father: O my father! Lo! I saw in a dream eleven planets and the sun and the moon, I saw them prostr
RE:RE:Science and History in the Quran
by Farooq on Feb 13, 2008 03:54 PM Permalink
lies detected !! user advised to visit harunyahya(dot)com if he dares
RE:Science and History in the Quran
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:56 PM Permalink
What are the lies? Do you think that the above passges are not from "The Koran" ????
RE:Science and History in the Quran
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 04:09 PM Permalink
These are the original verses:
67:5 And verily We have beautified the world's heaven with lamps, and We have made them missiles for the devils, and for them We have prepared the doom of flame. Allah made the stars for missiles to throw at devils for which he has prepared a doom of flame. 67:6 And for those who disbelieve in their Lord there is the doom of hell, a hapless journey's end! Disbelievers will go to a doom of hell where they will hear its roaring and boiling. Hell and doom in the Quran For disbelievers a painful doom 67:7 When they are flung therein they hear its roaring as it boileth up,
RE:RE:RE:Science and History in the Quran
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:59 PM Permalink
This is the exact verse from the Koran: 4:1 O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women. Be careful of your duty toward Allah in Whom ye claim (your rights) of one another, and toward the wombs (that bare you). Lo! Allah hath been a watcher over you.
Islam is not a new religion, but the same truth that God revealed through all His prophets to every people. For a fifth of the world's population, Islam is both a religion and a complete way of life. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the majority have nothing to do with the extremely grave events which have come to be associated with their faith.
RE:a THOUGHT
by kishore on Feb 13, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
yar, please dont link Islam with peace,forgiveness etc. The act of terrorists are done by Muslims & their community only.
RE:a THOUGHT
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:53 PM Permalink
The proof of pudding is in eating. We are obsrving the followers of "religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness" every day the world over!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the thirteenth century, when the non-Muslim Mongols had taken possession of Baghdad, their ruler Hulegu Khan is said to have assembled the religious scholars in the city and posed a loaded question to them: according to their law, which alternative is preferable, the disbelieving ruler who is just or the Muslim ruler who is unjust? After moments of anguished reflection, one well known scholar took the lead by signing his name to the response, "the disbelieving ruler who is just." Others are said to have followed suit in endorsing this answer.
Just and accountable government has long been considered essential in Islamic political and religious thought. The Qur'an states that the righteous "inherit the earth," righteous in this case referring to the morally upright rather than the members of any privileged confessional community. A righteous and just leader ruling by at least the tacit consent of the people and liable to being deposed for unrighteous conduct remained the ideal for most Muslims through much of the Middle Ages, even though dynastic rule replaced limited elective rule only about thirty years after the Prophet Muhammad's death in 632 CE. That thirty year period of non-dynastic rule became hallowed, however, in the collective Muslim memory as the golden era of just and legitimate leadership.
The consequences of this memory could have potentially far-reaching repercussions for the reshaping of the Islamic world today. The Qur'anic concept of shura refers to
RE:Islam
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:29 PM Permalink
There was no religion called Islam till Mohammed was about 40 years!!!!! The wrold Islam was used by him as a unique selling point.
The first meaning of "Islam" is the verb from the root "aslama" (a verb), meaning to: "surrender; submit; obey; sincerity and in peace."
The second meaning of "Islam" is the noun form from the same root, and it describes the last and final form of the way of life as perscribed by the Creator for His Creation. This is the name used in Quran for Muslims to call themselves as followers of "Islam". This would make them "Islam-ers" in English, but of course in Arabic the prefix "mu" is added to denote the one preforming the action or verb and instead it becomes "mu"-"islam" or "Muslim."
"Islam" can be understood in a very general sense to be the true religion of God, as it is from Him and according to His commandments without adding to or taking away from the basic precepts.
RE:Islam is a verb and a noun at the same time.
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:29 PM Permalink
There was no religion called Islam till Mohammed was about 40 years!!!!! The wrold Islam was used by him as a unique selling point.
RE:RE:Islam is a verb and a noun at the same time.
by Mohammed Abdul Sami on Feb 13, 2008 03:44 PM Permalink
ISLAM is the name given to HIS religion by god HIMSELF in AL-QURAN....
RE:Islam is a verb and a noun at the same time.
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:47 PM Permalink
There is no proof for the existence of any god and as such god cannot name any religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
