We people were shut for long 50 years and tolerated it is the time to HIT back..that was our mistake
After saddam killed Indian Muslims kept their sons name as saddam.And they have made protests.I don understand y an indian muslim has to protest for saddam?
Ever any Muslim condemned MF hussain's paintings???/
Why could not MF hussain painted his own mom and sis naked??
No Muslim in india condemned MF Hussain That Joker escaped and is hiding in Dubai
The Kashmir finance minister asking for a separte currency for kashmir..
Muslims don have a social service netwrok rather they having SIMI to promote terrorism
Why they always justify terrorism saying it is jihad
Can you answer why the hell an indian Kafeel ahmed( Educated with sh...t brain) went long way to UK for bombings?And what motivated him to kill inocent people?He has Nothing to do with UK.
You can see educated Muslims helping pakistani trained terrorists to carry out their activites in INDIA
RE:answer my questions..we are no more fool here
by MathiMeen on Feb 09, 2008 01:04 PM Permalink
Saddam is a name, there were saddam's before SADDAM and there will be saddam after too. You are too naive, a name is a name.
MF Hussain is just an artist. Some sculpture on temple walls are worse, he may have just copied them. Sure none have right to hurt feelings
Ask the Kashmir finance minister, and do ask the other seperatist movements too of their motives.
social service network - no need to do publicity of one's charity, charity is not a favor. Its between you and god.
- ask kafeel, why he bombed?
fyi - RSS partiioned India in 1947 and they are bent upon doing it again.
RE:answer my questions..we are no more fool here
by JGN on Feb 09, 2008 01:08 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>RSS partiioned India in 1947 and they are bent upon doing it again..............pl read some more history. Have you heard of Lucknow pact???
RE:RE:answer my questions..we are no more fool here
by JGN on Feb 09, 2008 01:14 PM Permalink
The first communal award conceded by the Minto-Morley Reform in 1909 was sanctified by the Congress-Muslim League agreement in 1916, better known as the "Lucknow Pact" which gave reservation with weightage to the Muslims. The origin of two nation theory is this Pact!!!!!!
RE:answer my questions..we are no more fool here
by MathiMeen on Feb 09, 2008 01:21 PM Permalink
...history as read by you and as taught to you! Not everything is true!!! Try finding other side and then form an opinion.
Appeasement has never ever worked with islamists. Hectored by ali brothers and jinnah, even Gandhi despaired at one point and said "my own experiences confirm that musalmaans as a rule are bullies. I have noticed this in railway trains, on public roads, and in the quarrels which I settled. For Hindus my suggestion is between violence and cowardly flight, prefer violence"
IT IS NOT MAHATMA MODIJI, BUT MAHATMA GANDHIJI WHO IS SAYING THIS.
MAHATMA MODIJI, KARMAVEER MADE MENSCH OUT OF GUJJUS AND GAVE THEM THE CONFIDENCE TO HANDLE ISLAMISM AND KICK OUT CONGRESS.
We people were shut for long 50 years and tolerated it is the time to HIT back..that was our mistake
Ever any Muslim condemned MF hussain's paintings???/
Why could not MF hussain painted his own mom and sis naked??
No Muslim in india condemned MF Hussain That Joker escaped and is hiding in Dubai
The Kashmir finance minister asking for a separte currency for kashmir..
Muslims don have a social service netwrok rather they having SIMI to promote terrorism
Why they always justify terrorism saying it is jihad
Can you answer why the hell an indian Kafeel ahmed( Educated with sh...t brain) went long way to UK for bombings?And what motivated him to kill inocent people?He has Nothing to do with UK.
You can see educated Muslims helping pakistani trained terrorists to carry out their activites in INDIA
RE:ISLAM IS THE WORST EVER CRIME ON HUMANITY
by JGN on Feb 09, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
Mr. Mohan, there is no need to accuse all muslims for the crimes of a few. I have many liberal muslim friends and some of them are even atheists (can you believe? ).
The majority of liberal muslims themselvels have to come forward and make the misguided elements of their community understand about the futility of fighting in the name of religion and god! If others tell them, they will feel offended.
The teachings (preachings) of The Prophet (Mohammed) was meant for the inhabitants of 7th century Arabia. Nobody can follow that in 21st century in any part of the world.
Islam is wrong and false because, its message, the Quran contains no miracles or any signs of divinity. Instead it has many defects and contradications.
The general policy of most of the rulers during the 700 years of Muslim occupation of India was to systematically replace the fabric of Hindu society and culture with a Muslim culture. They tried to destroy Indian religions, language and places of knowledge (universities e.g Nalanda and Taxshilawere totally destroyed by Muslims). They destroyed and desecrated places of thousands of temples including Somnath, Mathura, Benaras, Ayodhaya, Kannauj, Thaneswar and in other places. There was wholesale slaughter of the monks and priests and innocent Hindus with the aim to wipe out the intellectual bedrock of the people they overran.
The Muslims could not subjugate India with ease and were never able to rule it entirely. There was a valiant and ceaseless struggle for independence by Hindus to deliver India from Muslim tyranny. The Rajputs, Jats, Marathas and Sikhs led this struggle in North India. In the South this struggle was embodied in the Vijayanagar Empire. This struggle culminated when the Marathas ended the Muslim domination of India.
I do not hold the present generation of Muslims in India for the atrocities committed by the Invaders. They (or their ancestors) are in fact the victims of such atrocities. Learn from histroy and look forward to the future unbiased!
RE:Policy of Muslim rulers in India
by JGN on Feb 09, 2008 12:24 PM Permalink
veera, I am just wondering how the majority of Muslims are still liberal despite being taught The Koran and that too as a devine revealation. It contains so much hatred for the followers of other religion (rahter non-believers).
Though I do not believe in the dogmas of any religion, it seems that the Buddhist ideology in among the best!
RE:Policy of Muslim rulers in India
by JGN on Feb 09, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
Dear veera, it seems that you are also under a wrong impression. If we follow the Right-wing hindu agenda (as a counter to Islamic militancy), we also would not be much better than Afghanistan in the near future. The better alternative is for all of us to get rid of the religious dogmas and see all our country-men as humanbeings (rather than compartmentalizing them on the basis of religion)!
RE:Policy of Muslim rulers in India
by JGN on Feb 09, 2008 12:36 PM Permalink
So one has to invent a god to believe in the ideology! The Buddhists believe in the well-being of all human-beings (or living things) and they defnitely do not believe in any supreme creator or god or even soul!!! That is one reason why I like the ideals of Buddhism (of course now Gautama the Buddha himself has become a diety for the Buddhists!!!!!)
RE:Policy of Muslim rulers in India
by JGN on Feb 09, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
I disagree with you. And of course I do not beleive that there is any supreme creator or god. The idea of worship itself originated from the ignorance of the prmitive tribes. In today's world driven by science and technology, such beliefs have no place.
RE:ISLAM IS WORST EVER CRIME ON HUMANITY
by Sunny Armageddon on Feb 09, 2008 12:17 PM Permalink
Hey Mohan you forgot to add the two world wars and vietnam.Thats right muslims had a role in that too in your convoluted history book.
RE:We don need enimies when we have terrorrist muslims on our country
by MathiMeen on Feb 09, 2008 12:10 PM Permalink
The great satan RSS is bent upon destroying India. It did once in 1947 and is doing again. You are one among them.
RE:RE:We don need enimies when we have terrorrist muslims on our country
by Loan Shark on Feb 09, 2008 12:19 PM Permalink
MathiMeen, stop spreeding your madrasa history you freak
RE:RE:RE:We don need enimies when we have terrorrist muslims on our country
by JGN on Feb 09, 2008 12:27 PM Permalink
Dear veera, it seems that you are also under a wrong impression. If we follow the Right-wing hindu agenda (as a counter to Islamic militancy), we also would not be much better than Afghanistan in the near future. The better alternative is for all of us to get rid of the religious dogmas and see all our country-men as humanbeings (rather than compartmentalizing them on the basis of religion)!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:We don need enimies when we have terrorrist muslims on our country
by JGN on Feb 09, 2008 01:03 PM Permalink
Yes, you are right. Rightly or wrongly, the hindus now perceive Mr. Advani, Mr. Modi, Mr. Bal Thackeray, etc as their saviours (this is a result of failure of successive secularist governments to protect the interests of the majority community).
Many morons here dont have any standing on Indian history, thats why they color the Mugal rule as Hindu vs Muslim fight. The truth seems strange to many The Great Hindu King Rana Pratap's military general is a Muslim - Hakim Khan Suri The Great Maratha King - Shivaji's trusted Military general is -Haider Ali Kohari; Ibrahim Khan and Daulat Khan were prominent in the navy; and Siddi Ibrahim was chief of artillery.
the issue doesnt end here Aurangazeb relied on the Hindu King Raja Jai Singh to defaet Shivaji
This is how the Mughals and the Hindu kings lived.RSS and their sister organizations dont want you to know this,because their favourite pass time is to pit Hindus and Muslims citing Mughal rule in India
RE:The whole point of treating Mugahal rule as exclusive Hindu vs Muslim fight is a farce
by prakash on Feb 09, 2008 12:04 PM Permalink
stop SPAMMIG DUDE, IF YOU REPEAT A LIE HUNDRED TIMES IT IS STILL A lie
RE:The whole point of treating Mugahal rule as exclusive Hindu vs Muslim fight is a farce
by sadaChiddi on Feb 09, 2008 12:09 PM Permalink
Yes Mughals destryoed many temples.But hold your breath. Many temples were also centers of divine prostitution called deva dasi ssystem.Go and vist some of these holy temples with your family and be embarrased by these promiscuity. Mughal kings also gave lots of grants to some temples and Mutt where people followed some form of religious duties The truth if yiu dig will become very bitter unless you are prepared to swallow dont ask for it
RE:The whole point of treating Mugahal rule as exclusive Hindu vs Muslim fight is a farce
by PKN on Feb 09, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
Now hold your breath ! The logic you have employeed is the same logic that USA is using in Iraq many middle eastern countries and Afghanisation ! The practices there dont meet the approval by US standards so destroy it . Saddam Hussian hung from a rope not because he has WMDs but beacause Gearge Bush did not like him and some of his practices ! Every civilization has its practices but to suggest temples were destroyed beacuse of the "deva dasi" system is warped . I never subscribed to the many who highlight the " secual preferances' of Prophet Mohd since I beleive it is matter of another faith . Same way I dont say that the pulling down of the Babri Majid was justifed since Islam permitted a man to have 4 wives. By the way was there a "devadassi" system near the Bamiyan Buddha statues that prompted the Taliban to destory those ancient statues. The height of bigotary is when you destroy places of worship of your enemies. What the Mughals did was bad but infinitely comman place in those days!
RE:The whole point of treating Mugahal rule as exclusive Hindu vs Muslim fight is a farce
by prakash on Feb 09, 2008 12:06 PM Permalink
hindus themselves invited mughals and other foreign invaders to destroy and kill them ..and yes
RE:The whole point of treating Mugahal rule as exclusive Hindu vs Muslim fight is a farce
by Loan Shark on Feb 09, 2008 12:22 PM Permalink
prakash, kindly use your real islamic name freak. Then again this is the teaching of islam. You are living a lie dude.