People want to appear intelligent by trying to read between the lines. The story above simply means that Nasir turned jihadi because of his own failure in life. He may support his decisions by saying he read it in islam, or was enraged by his father's capture, or a zillion other things. The simple fact is that people like Nasir have lost their mental bearings required to live in peace and harmony with their fellow human beings. Why else would he want to kill innocent people as a cure for his failure? So stop discussing religions and generalising or you all fall in the same simplistic traps that he fell into. What a pity!
RE:We of simplistic minds want to complicate things..
by Confused Mind on Feb 07, 2008 04:26 PM Permalink
Freedom with proper "Self" and universal responsibility and some common-sense in keeping one's focus into life affirmative values is enough religion for all. You will notice that only mediocre and confused people talk all the time about God. Which is basically an escapist idea and hiding their own incompetency. That is why you see all developed countries in the world are 'secular' to keep these people on the fringes and excel in life and professions.
What are the messages one can take from the events happening around the world. Take the case of 'clash of civilizations" between Chritinity and Islam. All problems around the world have its root in arab israeli conflict which cannot be solved. Muslims cannot tolerate a democratic cultued country like israel in their part of the world or in the middle of them. Israel is surviving only because of its current military superiority. Owing to high oil prices and gaining prosperity of muslims in the gulf, the military superiority gap is reducing day by day. The day the gap is reduced, one can expect a war which will eventually result in exchange of neuclear weopons. Muslims will drop a bop over israel and israel will drom a bomp over saudi and other key religious locaations which will result in the end of islam and ofcourse israel. This can be made complete use by usa and other western countries to take comlete charge of oils and all the problems can be solved then. This is the only solution for the clash of civilisations. Till such time, one can hear bomp blasts, killings, sucide attcks and such things.
RE:Message :
by Verghese on Feb 07, 2008 04:18 PM Permalink
Israel - Democratic , Cultured .. A country born out of ethnic cleansing of local Arab populations at the behest of colonialist powers..Had Israel not existed, then 750,000 Palestinians would not have become refugees. Five hundred Palestinian villages, 11 Palestinian towns, 94 per cent of the cultivated land in Palestine, thousands of Palestinian businesses, and endless numbers of careers would have been saved.
RE:RE:Message :
by Navneet on Feb 07, 2008 04:39 PM Permalink
Israel was not involved in the deaths of the millions who died in the Iraq-Iran war. Arab-Moslems killed over a million black Christians and animists in the Sudan and brought intolerable suffering to that impoverished region. The Sudanese government, dominated by Arab-Moslems, didn%u2019t lift a finger to help its citizens. Israel is certainly not involved in that. The thousands whom Hafez Assad, the father of the current president of Syria, slaughtered in the city of Hama have no connection with Israel. Abdal Gamel Nasser, the self-appointed president of Egypt, mortal enemy of Israel and instigator of the Six-Day War, did not invade Yemen and gassed its people because of Israel. Saddam Hussein did not torture and kill tens of thousands of his own people and did not invade Kuwait because of Israel. The Lebanese did not stage their civil war and kill thousands of their own because of Israel. And there are many more examples of intra-Moslem or intra-Arab slaughter and mayhem. Israel was uninvolved in any of those. All of this would have taken place if Israel had never existed
RE:Message :
by Confused Mind on Feb 07, 2008 04:31 PM Permalink
What about Pak & B'desh? What are they born out of? And then one has again ethnically cleansed the other. The blame game continues. Colonization brought modernization to the world. All non Islamic countries have matured from it and are excelling in science, technology, education etc. The Palestinians could also have done the same partnering with Israel for their own development. Nothing is totally right at any time anywhere in the world. One has to find it.
RE:Message :
by Verghese on Feb 07, 2008 05:20 PM Permalink
Well, then you could also mature and forget the "injustices" of the past like the Ramjanmabhoomi..
RE:Message :
by Confused Mind on Feb 07, 2008 05:24 PM Permalink
You are biased and do not understand "State" sponsored violence under the banner of religion is only carried out by "Islam". Go get a life.
RE:RE:Message :
by Confused Mind on Feb 07, 2008 05:25 PM Permalink
Nobody cares about Ramjanmabhoomi. Just having Uniform Civil Code and one-law for all and moving on is enough ...
RE:Message :
by mallik jhalota on Feb 07, 2008 04:36 PM Permalink
when the whole world all the religion is contributing for construction and welfareness humanity only islaam is towards destruction and against humanity..So it definitely ruin in future..
Islam is a religion sent down by none other than Allah All-mighty, the creator , the lord of the entire universe and whatever is in it.Islam requires mankind to accept the creator as the creator and the creations as creations and worship Allah alone.To make people understand this and live their lives in a civilized way , HE sent his messenger Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who has shown the mankind a scientific way of life covering all aspects of life and thus making the world a peaceful place.This ultimately benefits the mankind to live a good life and be in paradise forever, after death.Islam takes its followers into light of wisdom from the darkness of ignorance (includes idol worship,evil practices,superstitions,corruption,injustice etc). If u read history , u would find that Jihad is by the order of Allah on whom those who disbelieve and reject the call unto Islam(meaning , rejecting call to become just and civilised human being).So all the super powers (Rome , Persia etc)were then brought to the feet of Prophet (peace be upon him) and his companions(may be allah be pleased with them) and the world was made a better place.This is the purpose of Jihad , which is really constructive.So I invite all the non-muslim friends on board to Islam , to study about islam and I'm sure almost all of u would like it. God Bless You All.
RE:Inviting to Islam..
by shridhar bhat on Feb 07, 2008 04:21 PM Permalink
no religion asks to kill people for no reason.... if islam says it, its foolish....
RE:Inviting to Islam..
by Fab Reens on Feb 07, 2008 04:24 PM Permalink
What you are saying is Relative Truth. There is story of six blind men each touching different parts of the elephant and thus describing the animal accordingly. Each was right only as far as the part he was touching, but that was part of the absolute truth. So jains say, until you achieve 'kevalgyan' i.e. the absolute knowledge, stop such propaganda about 'absolute' truth. Live and let live. Read jain books to know what is atma, karma and men's true dharma. This is the only way to provide peace and harmony in this world.
RE:Hinduism is the root of all evil...
by Hind on Feb 07, 2008 04:11 PM Permalink
thats the reason why: sharukh wife Pooja had to convert to Islam before marriage Amir Khan marries 2 hindu girls and conver them sharmila tagore had to convert before marriage, slmans mother was hindu , but converted as salma for marrying salim. saif did same thing .... list goes on
RE:LORD KRISHNA
by Fab Reens on Feb 07, 2008 04:09 PM Permalink
Maybe the so-called jihadis are not getting enough sex to have turned so blood-thirsty. Maybe that was the msg of Lord Krishna - Make Love, Not War!
