RE:All states must be freed from central government, we all must involve in jihad
by Rajeev on Feb 07, 2008 06:43 PM Permalink
I would like to correct you here krishna.. If they are freed, its a simple logic, Pakistan will capture them..Advocate this theory if you want to become part of pakistan else be grateful to our brave soldiers
RE:All states must be freed from central government, we all must involve in jihad
by usa on Feb 07, 2008 08:26 PM Permalink
India? The current status is:
Kerala - C/o Gulf Tamilnadu - No Comments Andhra Pradesh - Telangana movement Karnataka - Ask Tamilnadu Bihar,UP - Their weapons are sophisticated than Indian Army's Bengal - Chinese will listen. Seven sister states - Instant death if you are non-assamese. Punjab - Khalistan Kashmir - Kidding? Rajasthan - They call you 'Paradesi'. Maharastra - Vidarbha movement. UP - Bundelkhand, Poorvanchal etc ...
Due to the intrinsic cultural diversity, each State in India cannot 'productively' govern more than 2 million citizens. India should 'decentralize' 604 districts into States or Cantons as in Switzerland.
RE:@Arif
by Arif on Feb 07, 2008 06:41 PM Permalink
Yes I know. And what I have written is the truth. I am a muslim and I have lived in India for a long time. I know how the police works. I have seen things happening in front of my eyes.
RE:@Arif
by Arif on Feb 07, 2008 06:49 PM Permalink
Yes I see your point. Police should take special care that no Indian is killed in bomb blasts. Other reasons of death can be ignored.
This story by Rediff "Jihad is in my Blood" that tells that Lie Detector Test shows These people had "Disastraus plans for Karnataka". This is given as a link. But when we click the link, it talks about "written confessions".
So here it goes..., what is only a written confession is being sold as outcome of lie detection !! We all know what "written confession" means vs. what comes out of Narco/Lie Test.
RE:Media Misuse by Rediff
by Wahaj Faridy on Feb 07, 2008 06:32 PM Permalink
I will accept only what comes out of fair Trial...not manipulated by Media Trial.
Why Media has to act crook if there is straight case in hand.
RE:RE:Media Misuse by Rediff
by mmspm on Feb 07, 2008 06:35 PM Permalink
we accept outcome of enquiry from police and the news from only genuine news channel Door Darshan.
Hell with biases channels like NDTV, CNN-IBN, AAJTAK etc.,
RE:Media Misuse by Rediff
by sriram gupta on Feb 07, 2008 06:39 PM Permalink
So what do you need? Should he talk to you about his plans on blasts in karnataka for you confirm whether he is a culprit or not? You are showing sympathy to a terrorist who might have killed you or me or whole Indians in future. This is not at all good
Kashmir problem lies in the two nation theory on which india got divided and which says that Hindu and Muslim mojority places should be separate states.Even if we had total control over Kashmir,still there would hav been agaitations since its muslim majortity.See,Pakistan had total control over east pakistan,but east pakistan became Banladesh on separate linguistic identity.We hav total control over N/E state, still there is insurgency and large part are ungovernable.
So blaming Gandhi for partition who was dead aganist Partition & Nehru for Kashmir who didnt train terrrorist there is totally illogical.While we celegrated creation Bangladesh,it only made Pakistan hell bound to promote insurgency in Punjab & Kashmir ,also brought crores of Bangladeshi refugees in India.
If we can blame, we can blame our history for partition of india.Also our leaders ambition share some amount of blame ,but Gandhi wasnt belong to those leaders.
RE:To Blame Gandhi for partition is utter ignorance & falling prey to politics
by mmspm on Feb 07, 2008 06:28 PM Permalink
Mr. Santosh
I suggest you to get some knowledge and facts and history about Indo-Pak Wars. Especially 1st war to know about Nehru's role in Kashmir conflict.
i think "Himalayan Blunder" is the right one to enlighten u about north eastern regions border conflicts. That book is written by Brig. John Parashuram Dalavi. He was the chief of that operation for Indian forces.
RE:To Blame Gandhi for partition is utter ignorance & falling prey to politics
by Fab Reens on Feb 07, 2008 06:36 PM Permalink
Nehru was more a philosopher poet than a politician. Gandhi probably figured he could shadow box while keeping Nehru in the front. Nehru would have followed Gandhiji's every diktat. Unfortunately Gandhi died, then Nehru made a tryst with destiny (not India's but his own!)
RE:To Blame Gandhi for partition is utter ignorance & falling prey to politics
by Arif on Feb 07, 2008 06:31 PM Permalink
Well if you are trying to intimidate us then let me tell you veera, there is nothing brave about intimidating a minority population. Secondly this is our land as per the constitution of India. So we will defend it till our last drop of our blood. kiss us all if you wish. But we will die here bravely and happily. :-)
Can anybody tell me why so many people give importance to religion than humanity? Why people suffer with intolerance to people of other religions? Is religion that much important? Why this terrorist wants to kill so many innocent people just because they are not of his religion? Isn't that against to the basic PRINCIPLES of his religion? Please share your views.
RE:Why religion is important than humanity
by sriram gupta on Feb 07, 2008 06:15 PM Permalink
This world can't live in peace if people suffer with INTOLERANCE just like the above so called EDUCATED (!!!) person did
RE:Why religion is important than humanity
by usa on Feb 07, 2008 08:27 PM Permalink
And the truth is every religion now is a form of socio-economic collusion.
Pals on the basis of my previous post, I say Gandhi and Gandhians are real culprits for downfall of India(I say this bcoz pls have a look at rate of development from past 60 years).
RE:Hell with Gandhi & Gandhians
by Pradip Parekh on Feb 07, 2008 06:10 PM Permalink
If there had been no gandhi but only modi india would have become another old fashioned muslim country still in the 1st world war age.
RE:Hell with Gandhi & Gandhians
by Fab Reens on Feb 07, 2008 06:14 PM Permalink
Sorry you are wrong. The Downfall of India from its glorious days before the british started sometime during the time of Moghuls. As Swami Vivekanada said, the inactivity of lazy hindu minds did not portray 'satvikta' but 'tamasikta'. That is why he gave the recipe for true Hindutva, and pure nationalism. He said the soul of India is her religions. Gandhi travelled the length and breadth of India and knew their pulse, what made them tick. He knew Indians could never organise an armed attack against the british, so he took the support of Gita and preached non-violence. No matter how you slice it, you cannot disclaim the fact that he won freedom for India. I do believe that Patel would've been right choice as 1st PM, not Nehru. I believe history would've been different had both Gandhi and Patel survived longer.
RE:Hell with Gandhi & Gandhians
by anil desai on Feb 07, 2008 06:05 PM Permalink
ur writing on this post becoz of em........ shut da p u ck up dude........
RE:Hell with Gandhi & Gandhians
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Feb 07, 2008 06:14 PM Permalink
Gandhi and jinna screwed life of millions just like narendra modiji and advaniji are now screwing life of millions of hindus.
He said Jihad is in his blood and got a space on rediff. I say I can die for my country, will rediff give me space ? And we talk about positive media!!!!
u can conduct some personality development seminars for school and college students which will help them in their future life to encounter tough and competent corporate world. Which will leads to good utilization of our youth power where every youth will be employed and to prosper our country. PS: I am doing that
You can also arrange Civil Defence and Self defence classes for school and college students which will help them for their own defence in calamities and to help others of our country.
I have done a bit and a long way to go. list of services you can do for country goes endless. At least do any one thing in your whole life time.
RE:RE:?
by Arif on Feb 07, 2008 06:05 PM Permalink
How to raise the voice? I have not seen any demonstration or demand by muslims living in India except Kashmir for his release. How did you draw the conclusion that we support him ? Did he contest a election in which we voted him?
RE:RE:RE:RE:?
by Arif on Feb 07, 2008 06:11 PM Permalink
Well, the financial state of muslims in India is not so strong that they can sponsor or support anything other than their family.
RE:?
by Arif on Feb 07, 2008 06:17 PM Permalink
Law suits like? As far as I know many are lingering in the jail without a hearing or money for a lawyer. Please mention a specific case so that we can discuss.
RE:?
by Arif on Feb 07, 2008 06:28 PM Permalink
Well the kashmiris support afzal so they must have arranged the money. I dont know much about madani can you enlighten me? Did he belong to a political party ?
RE:RE:?
by Arif on Feb 07, 2008 06:06 PM Permalink
There were demonstrations against war in the whole world. Even in America by Americans. So whats your point ?
RE:RE:RE:RE:?
by Arif on Feb 07, 2008 06:13 PM Permalink
How many hindus have taken out big rallies asking afzal guru to be hanged? I am not talking about rallies held for election. I am talking about normal people like you and me. A common muslim in India is more worried about earning bread for his family. Most wont even know who afzal guru is.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:?
by Arif on Feb 07, 2008 06:18 PM Permalink
Well I have never seen a rally regarding that. If you have news item related to that please show me. And please dont mention the election rallies because they have different motive all together.
RE:?
by Arif on Feb 07, 2008 06:00 PM Permalink
Well thats what I am saying. Every word from a jihadi is considered so sacred and worthy of news while our brave soldiers die daily protecting our borders. No one talks about them. Its a shame.
Millions of Indians mourned Gandhi's assassination. Massive anti-Brahmin riots spread, especially across Maharashtra state, as Godse was a Brahmin. The Sangli and Miraj regions were hit harder. Houses of Brahmins were burned, and a number of people died. The Maratha protagonists were largely supposed to be behind the arson. The Hindu Mahasabha was vilified and the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, the RSS, was temporarily banned. However, later investigators could find no evidence that the RSS bureaucracy had formally sponsored or even knew of Godse's plot. The RSS ban was lifted by Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru and Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel in 1949.
The RSS to this day denies any connection with Godse and dispute the claim that he was a member; they say that Godse was definitely a member of the Congress Party, and that if any party should be blamed, it should be the Congress, not the RSS.
RE:Congress is the culprit
by mmspm on Feb 07, 2008 05:42 PM Permalink
for all disputes and conflicts in India today is Congress. Gandhi and so called Gandhians are the main culprits and evils for development of India. Through them out of the power.
pals i read this in wikipedia. how many agree that Gandhi is the main reason for Kashmir conflict ?
"The immediate motive for the assassination is usually ascribed to Gandhi's decision to fast to the death unless the Indian central government allowed the transfer of 55 crore (550 million) rupees to the government of Pakistan. The transfer had been specified in the partition agreement, but the Indian government had refused to complete it, complaining of continued Pakistani rebel occupation of disputed parts of Kashmir.
The Indian government immediately reversed its decision to withhold the funds, which infuriated Godse and his fellow Hindu radicals."
RE:Gandhi is the reason for kashmir conflict ?
by mmspm on Feb 07, 2008 05:39 PM Permalink
if gandhi would have kept shut his mouth, we would have been seen kashmir and other border conflicts and so many wars till today & today.
RE:Gandhi is the reason for kashmir conflict ?
by mmspm on Feb 07, 2008 05:44 PM Permalink
" had patel became the prime minister of India,the kashmir story would have been pretty different"
