RE:politics
by Harsha Kumar on Feb 07, 2008 06:07 PM Permalink
That's all fine buddy. But the problem he mentioned is genuine - there DOES seem to be a geographic angle (in general at least) to this Indian attitude-problem with laws. I would say even the West is generally tolerable, but can't say the same thing for the North. Try standing in a queue in a railway station up north.
RE:politics
by Veja Biral on Feb 07, 2008 06:13 PM Permalink
But different part of India is quite different so far culture is concerned. We should develop a national culture instead promoting regional culture.
If the laws of the country itself are so bad, illogical, oppressive and corruption-promoting, then there is no alternative for ordinary people like us..
For example, you cannot take your vehicle from one state to another in India without permissions, NOCs, and faaltu ke RTO ke documents and bribery.
1. It took me more documents, forms to fill and hassles to get my vehicle re-registered than getting a passport!! 2. Spending Rs 3000-5000 to re-register a 8-year old second hand vehicle that would not even fetch 15000 if I sell it. Nonsensical ! 3. In Europe, you can buy a vehicle in France and drive it across the country or even across borders without NOCs and RTO permits. You can buy a car in Hamburg and drive it anywhere in Germany (Frankfurt or Dresden) legally without NOCs and RTO permits and registration taxes or octroi. The world is simplifying processes and scrapping redundant laws, while our hare-brained politicians continue to amend old ones with more and more clauses and create borders even between the states of India.
RE:Its the laws that are stupid, not north or south Indians
by tomcat on Feb 07, 2008 05:59 PM Permalink
my point is that the laws itself are so difficult to follow... that you become a lawbreaker automatically even if you dont want to.
RE:Its the laws that are stupid, not north or south Indians
by Anish on Feb 07, 2008 06:04 PM Permalink
well is getting a ticket for travelling in train such a bad law? Im not saying all north but recently TTRs in southern railway had tough time in dealing with passengers from west and north india with most of them boldly saying who will take tickets while travelling... im not telling this just check old news papers...
RE:Its the laws that are stupid, not north or south Indians
by Vikas Vadgama on Feb 07, 2008 06:02 PM Permalink
I feel bad for the experience you had tomcat. But that's the reality of our country.
RE:Its the laws that are stupid, not north or south Indians
by rexberry on Feb 07, 2008 06:00 PM Permalink
we indians are emotional... we get into all these issues very fast... politicians have been using such issues for vote banks... inspite of education,working in multinationals still we succumb to politicians plan.... if everything becomes smooth then there will be no issue for politicians
RE:Hadh ho gaya
by Rajeev on Feb 07, 2008 06:02 PM Permalink
We were never united and will never be too.When it comes to cricket , may be we are united .. I dont see any other factor which keeps us united..
If the laws of the country itself are so bad, illogical, oppressive and corruption-promoting, then there is no alternative for ordinary people like us..
For example, you cannot take your vehicle from one state to another in India without permissions, NOCs, and faaltu ke RTO ke documents and bribery.
1. It took me more documents, forms to fill and hassles to get my vehicle re-registered than getting a passport !! 2. Spending Rs 3000-5000 to re-register a 8-year old second hand vehicle that would not even fetch 15000 if I sell it. Nonsensical ! 3. In Europe, you can buy a vehicle in France and drive it across the country or even across borders without NOCs and RTO permits. You can buy a car in Hamburg and drive it anywhere in Germany (Frankfurt or Dresden) legally without NOCs and RTO permits and registration taxes or octroi. The world is simplifying processes and scrapping redundant laws, while our hare-brained politicians continue to amend old ones with more and more clauses and create borders even between the states of India.
Seems like Mr Khanna has never been anywhere else other that Delhi, Punjab, Haryana and Western UP. He should have met only Mr Karunanidhi and Devegowda to change his mind.
RE:What a sham
by Sreelekha Nair on Feb 07, 2008 06:04 PM Permalink
LIKE U STUCK to the TOPIC in ur message asking for Bong and Ganguly ! Do it urself too, man !
