STUPID TO MAKE A LEGAL ISSUE OF THIS--THE COUPLE SHOULD HAVE GOT IT ABORTED SAFELY AT ANY GOOD GYNOECOLOGIST--ABSOLUTELY SAFELY WITHOUT SURGICAL INTERVENTION ALSO!!NOW THEY ARE IN THE LIMELIGHT AND MAYBE MAYBE BURDENED WITH A CHILD
RE:A LOGICAL OPINION
by dhruv ghosh on Aug 04, 2008 05:38 PM Permalink
Several doctors had refused to to do the abortion as it is illegal. That is why they approached the Court for directions.
RE:A LOGICAL OPINION
by pp rr on Aug 04, 2008 05:37 PM Permalink
Is it right to teminate life weather the child is inside or outside, healthy or unhealthy? Isn't it the responsibility of parents to take care of their own flesh and blood with life in it? Afterall no one goes to court asking for permission to kill their own child.Parenting is not a matter of convinience.
RE:A LOGICAL OPINION
by sanjay on Aug 04, 2008 05:33 PM Permalink
dude,after 20 weeks its very difficult!no obstretician would be willing for that to do sceretly as its against the law!
RE:RE:A LOGICAL OPINION
by ANTHONY SHEERAN on Aug 04, 2008 05:35 PM Permalink
HAVE YOU HEARD OF ETHACRIDINE LACTATE ---GIVEN THRO A FOLEYS--- AND ABORTION SPONTANEOUSLY OCCOURS IN 12 HOURS
RE:A LOGICAL OPINION
by vinay thakur on Aug 04, 2008 05:33 PM Permalink
Wish our all citizens become as smart as you!You guys start corruption at all levels and then you will be heard blaming politicians,beurocrats,police and every other insititution in the country!
Asking for termination is being very selfish. All beings have to suffer accordng to thier previous karma so even if the baby is born with some fatal disease its because of its karma and because of its parents karma to bear with such a baby and who knows by Gods grace there can be a miracle Very good decession by the judges
RE:Baby
by rd on Aug 04, 2008 05:35 PM Permalink
You stupid idiot, we live in a worldof science, so forget about this bull shit like karma etc. Nothing of the sort exists. It sonly a figment of the priestly calss to make a living. D you want a middle income family to be burdened with a sick child who has no chance of a normal life let alone a life beyond 5 to 7 years. why dont yo go ahead and offer to adopt this unborn child. Grow up you stupid twit
RE:Baby
by shiva kumara on Aug 04, 2008 05:33 PM Permalink
I feel it is very selfless thought.. They do not want the child to suffer the pain and agony having born disabled, being not able to do what their friends can do, being embarrassed through out life.
RE:Baby
by akasai on Aug 04, 2008 05:32 PM Permalink
it is very bad that you are making such a casual comment on someone else's sorry situation. Life it too complex to be defined as a result of good or bad karma. If you cannot help someone's sorry conditon, atleast shut your mouth up
Weather the child is inside or outside, healthy or unhealthy, its the responsibility the of parents to take care of their own flesh and blood with life in it.Afterall no one goes to court asking for permission to kill their own child.Parenting is not a matter of convinience.
RE:Parents petitioning their child to be killed.
by supratim chowdhury on Aug 04, 2008 05:37 PM Permalink
For a moment let us keep aside the sufferings of the parents....have u ever thought how much suffering the little baby would have to undergo after its birth. It is a wrong decision.
RE:Parents petitioning their child to be killed.
by Shivam Parikh on Aug 04, 2008 05:33 PM Permalink
See thats where you dont get it. You say CHILD, but its called foetus..foetus means not a baby yet...thats the point of the appeal..its not human...evolutionary stage does not call it a baby or human.
ITs not a child that being killed...as long as its not a child...or a baby or for that matter living breathing on its own...
I agree with a CHILD ..but as long as people call it a foetus..termination should be legal...OR Else call it a baby for crying out loud! (! was not meant for the above poster..was meant for the overall topic)
Wrong decision by court,Country like india where population is 1.2 bn & producing unhealty child is one of the worst thing.Lets produce only single healthy child so that we can provide all facility to it,in present sceario even producing 2 childs will be big burden for country..
RE:Bombay HC!!
by SV on Aug 04, 2008 05:49 PM Permalink
No offence to local people, but as IIT Bombay is named as per central legislature, so are the high courts are named as per central parliaments and not state legislatures
RE:Bombay HC!!
by sanjay Mor on Aug 04, 2008 05:43 PM Permalink
GOOD one , How the Raj Thakery has not noticed this?May be he does not have guts to take PUNGA with Court. He can fight with only poor peoples.
Imagine the mother requesting to abort her own child. Imagine the child within the mother must be crying hearing that its mother want to abort it. We know everyting is transmitted from mother to child during her pregnancy. Can this mother understand that she is asking to KILL HER OWN CHILD. I want to ask this mother, if the child was born normal and after birth the child faces a very serious sickness (God forbid). What will she do? Ask the court to authorize her to kill her own child? Just because of technology she is knowing that the child is sick and there is technology to help the child, which she do not want to use. She want to use technology to KILL but she do not want to use technology to RESTORE. What kind of a women she is? She has advanced well in her pregency stage and the child is almost formed, and she want to do anything to kill her own child. CAN'T YOU GIVE LIFE TO THIS CHILD OF YOURS ? CAN'T YOU GIVE YOUR CHILD ONE MORE CHANCE TO LIVE ? There are mothers who are crying to have kids, and here is a mother who is crying to have her kid killed by her own hands. PLEASE DO NOT SUPPORT TO KILL YOUR UNBORN CHILD. WHAT GOD HAS GIVEN, LET GOD TAKE AWAY. Sequeira from Mumbai
RE:termination of pregnancy
by SHIJU THOMAS on Aug 04, 2008 05:30 PM Permalink
If i ask you to Contribute Rs.100 for this Kid's Monthly welfar Kitty, I See U dropping your Dhothi and running.. U Hypocrite!
RE:termination of pregnancy
by shiva kumara on Aug 04, 2008 05:31 PM Permalink
Try to think practically. If you are not very well off, and you can't provide sufficient medical support to the child, the child will suffer a slow painful death which is worse and a bigger sin than terminating right away before it is born.
RE:termination of pregnancy
by Vijay Sharma on Aug 04, 2008 05:34 PM Permalink
there are millions of parents in india who cannot even afford masic medical care for teir kids. Should they also kill their children. Should we contribute specially for them also ( in fact we are already doing by paying our taxes).
RE:termination of pregnancy
by Nadarajan on Aug 04, 2008 05:47 PM Permalink
no boss, ur tax money is not going to kid of above category. Don't be so childish in your approach. Parents will have to pay from nose for this kids' survival. At the end one more very poor family will be added to the list. Our Govt. of this court is not going to help them once this kid born with problem as reported by doctors.
RE:termination of pregnancy
by rd on Aug 04, 2008 05:37 PM Permalink
Absolutely, Thank the world that there are some sensible and sensitive people still around.
RE:termination of pregnancy
by ware vm on Aug 04, 2008 05:34 PM Permalink
hmm, how old you are, how many kids do you have?
Just imagin, she gave birth and they did not manage to arrange money then what that lady will do, watch her kid dyeing in front of her eyes? Will she ever manage to come out from that guilt that she did not manage to arrange money to save her kid?
RE:termination of pregnancy
by Shivam Parikh on Aug 04, 2008 05:36 PM Permalink
child is almost formed -- as you said, but NOT A CHILD as of yet (nor a baby)...so the rest of what you said should be ignored (seriously, not sarcastically)....
Thats like looking at an egg and saying "Thats almost a bird" or even better looking at a sperm and saying "Hey thats almost going to be a foetus"..
Based on the "almost a" part of your post...I think its not about killing a child...
I totally agree with you about killing a child or a baby but as long as its "ALMOST A ...." I think its fair to call it off.
RE:RE:termination of pregnancy
by Shivam Parikh on Aug 04, 2008 05:40 PM Permalink
Further in the article:
For the purpose, they had sought amendment of a section of the Medical Termination of Pregnancy Act under which the foetus can be aborted after 20 weeks only if there was a fatal risk to the mother and not the foetus.
I feel thats good enough to aid them as well....If the Govt. wont heed its own rules,...why keep rules. I also feel HC saying no, is going to cause long term issues and this is going to become a massive topic soon enough - once things go wrong (ethically or unethically)...The state will be sued (that's possible right..or only in USA??).
As mentioned on and off in other sections of this thread/s , we cant use the term baby or child..its still a foetus...so unless you want to start saying "Dont killl Foetus" or Don't Support Foetus killing...people mentioning KILLING CHILD/BABY are out of line..Theres a difference between foetus and child..thats why its called Foetus....
I think everyone who feels the foetus termination appeal was wrong should then say DONT KILL or let mothers kill their "FOETUS" and not baby or child...
OR OPTIONALLY ask the Govt. to recgonize foetus as child or baby....
RE:termination of pregnancy
by Koduvayur on Aug 04, 2008 05:36 PM Permalink
You ask What kind of a women she is? She is normal middle class women. She has every right to express her apprehension. After all it is she who is carrying the child and naturally she is worried. The mistake she did was approaching the legal authorities. The child, if born with abnormalities, will have a tough time. At that time no one will come forward and help him/her.
RE:termination of pregnancy
by ware vm on Aug 04, 2008 05:36 PM Permalink
You must be a software guy, handsome salary, you will suggest taking personal loan at 20% intrest, isn't it?
Right decision but only technically, As judges are not emperors/dictators they cannot give verdict against the prevailing law, the law has to amended by state or central legislatures which are elected by the general public. But the law should also ensure no female foeticides and wrongful use of abortion.
They want to get their child killed as they do not want not spend on their chlds health.. Sady, the law cannot punish them. If the child is stillborn, they should be tried for willfully causing his death. Going by that logic, if chld has a gene for asthama , diabetes etc his parents should get him killed. This is highly warped thinking and will lead us nowhere.
Cant the family Go Abroad, Have an Abortion and come back..
And shame on U guys.. U silly Nit wits who dont even care for the Child outside your gates.. Have the Audacity to shout that the Middle income Family go through all the trouble!! Will u guys donate some money to atleast help the couple out..
RE:Go abroad Abort and come back..
by SV on Aug 04, 2008 05:27 PM Permalink
No cannot do that as they can be put on trial in India (by police or govt. authorities if they find out) as they are Indian citizen (Passport holder)
