RE:Good news for India
by Yaqoot Mir on Apr 28, 2008 06:12 PM Permalink
Much like the Fake promises other political leaders make when seeking reelection Obama and Hillary both are nothing more than HOT AIR BALOONS at best and both frankly have no chance of beating Mcain in the election anyway, get set for another republican victory in the election....
RE:Good news for India
by Sachin on Apr 28, 2008 06:44 PM Permalink
Republican victory is certain, atleast both the Clintons are working towards ensuring that!! Hillary has no chance of winning the primaries, but she has bruised and weakened Obama enough to leave him with no chance to beat McCain. And no US president will endeavour to attack Iran, they have their hands full with Afghanistan and Iraq.
RE:RE:Good news for India
by Muhammed Rashid on Apr 28, 2008 07:14 PM Permalink
You are right. Bill Clinton does not want to see a democrat in white house other than his wife this time.
D. Goel . Pkl,. afternoon, 4.50pm,Monday,April 28 , 2008. it is delightful to read the latest postings of world surveys brought out by world critics of Middle-East Developments around the Shiite Islaamic Republic Of Iraan under Radical islamic Revolution of redoubtable M Ahmedjediad,who has created waves around the chancellories of Europe and Americas, in past few yrs.Indians are of course have their own islamic redoubtable vote-banks that our present Manmohans and Commies cannot afford to ignore except at their loss of electability in number of (at least 20-25% percent lokSabha constituencies) in 2009.Kumaraswamy Sahib is quite justified in stressing that we are in the election mode, already , way ahead of 2009... But still the US policy -makers fail to understand Asian sensitivities...For long Anti -Imperialism has been the stable diet of our propaganda line in our relation with the West. After-all , except Maoists and Swatatnrites Indians have disliked being dictated either by Dulles or his opposite numbers in Comintern, Stalins , Maos or Chous... Still it is difficult if we can get along With Shiite fundamentalists either ,even with the Baits of Cheaper oil supplies..the Hejbollas , Hamas or others or the inhuman orthodoxy of Ayatullahs over Women's Rights, or modernist writers Like Salman Rushdie...Tasleema / D. Goel
RE:Professor PR Kumaraswamy's appraisal of Indo Mohmad Ahmadjediad's Visit
by Yaqoot Mir on Apr 28, 2008 06:15 PM Permalink
Really I assume you have researched this and have proof? Shias have never initiated any conflict and infact my freind rivalry is not between Shias and Sunnis ( which together are almost 70% of the Muslim mainstream ) its more Shia versus Wahabis that is a problem and regardless the Iran Iraq conflict was started by IRAQ thats a known fact. Name one incident where Shias have been involved in violence? go ahead.
RE:Professor PR Kumaraswamy's appraisal of Indo Mohmad Ahmadjediad's Visit
by Muhammed Rashid on Apr 28, 2008 07:08 PM Permalink
It was America's proxy war against Iran. Not wahhabi war against Shias. Correct your information. Saddam was a communist not wahhabi.
RE:Professor PR Kumaraswamy's appraisal of Indo Mohmad Ahmadjediad's Visit
by Vikas on Apr 28, 2008 07:08 PM Permalink
come on, iran wanted to remove saddam who was a sunny ruling a shia majority country.
In India every year during muharam there are riots between shias and sunnis. shias insist on taking their processon thru sunni dominated areas and this results in fight.
I have seen shias cutting their own body and even small childrens body and flowing blood during muharam procession.
Sunnis at least dont show such madness.
In pakistan there have been too many riots between shias and sunnis. shias are never comfortable living with sunnis.
RE:Professor PR Kumaraswamy's appraisal of Indo Mohmad Ahmadjediad's Visit
by Muhammed Rashid on Apr 28, 2008 07:16 PM Permalink
Shias are following some early christian rituals of atonement of cutting their own body. You can see some Philipino christian doing it.
RE:Professor PR Kumaraswamy's appraisal of Indo Mohmad Ahmadjediad's Visit
by leonard on Apr 29, 2008 01:00 AM Permalink
Cutting of the body? Are you talking about 2000 years ago or presently?. Surely the people doing this must have realized by now that there are other ways of expressing one's deep faith.
RE:Question
by rationalist on Apr 28, 2008 05:37 PM Permalink
on the contrary, it is due to amrical pressure the OPEC is prevented from incraesing oil prices
u dont know a thing. entire gulf - arab countries - are under influence of USA. Only Iran is an exception to this. Iran is trying to invade arab countries. If Iran dominates gulf, it will be dangerous for India since Iran openly supports porkistan.
RE:Question
by Vikas on Apr 28, 2008 05:38 PM Permalink
entire gulf - arab countries - are under influence of USA. thats why they are peaceful. Only Iran is an exception to this. Iran is trying to invade arab countries. If Iran dominates gulf, it will be dangerous for Isreal since Iran openly delares they will destroy Israel. it will be dangerous for India since Iran openly supports porkistan. it will be dangerous for the world since Iran will control the oil.
All major countries need long term secured oil supplies. If India does not secure Iran oil, china is ready to do so. Infact america would not mind another war.
The article claims that "there is a Shia angle to Ahmadinejad's ". because of election in karnataka. How is election in karnataka related to Ahmadinejad's visit? Does the center govt thinks that visit will make all shia muslims in karnataka to vote for Congress?? If they are thinking on those lines then Congress is the biggest Fool in this world.
RE:What Rubbish!!!
by Mahesh Jagga on Apr 28, 2008 06:05 PM Permalink
Yeah. It was called Khilafat Movement. It was the an anti secular movement by Congress to appease muslims in India.
RE:What Rubbish!!!
by Vikas on Apr 28, 2008 05:39 PM Permalink
are there any shia mulsims in karnataka. i think the dominant sunni muslims will oppose congress and cote for jds.
RE:What Rubbish!!!
by Muhammed Rashid on Apr 28, 2008 07:21 PM Permalink
The writer has tried to all the angles possible for his article so that after election if Shias in karnataka vote for congress then he can say "I said so in my article". Nothing else
You see suddenly see India becoming overfriendly to IRAN, the simple reason is oil diplomacy. Reliance wants crude for its jamnagar refinery, by getting that pipeline to India, there is a huge business potential upside, so every petroleum minister is pursuing it as if its like he getting paid to do that job.
Coming from a JNU professor, such candid talk is a pleasant surprise. Indian foreign policy establishment is still trapped in the 'cold war' era, when we proudly celebrated our victimhood and took the high pedastal on every issue. All the states for whom we took up the cudgels have deserted us when their support was needed. Iran has done no favour to India in supplying oil and will do no favour in seeling the gas. The pipeline running through Pakistan is a sitting duck for anti-Indian elements swarming in Pakistan. Even within India, we have a Government that cannot protect the water pipelines and electric transmission lines from widespread pilferage! India's leverage with Iran on the nuclear issue or any issue is absolutely 'nil' and except bankrupt shibboleths on third-worldism nothing much will emerge. India is a super-power in making and should behave so and shd have a foreign-policy machinery behoving that status. Even a child wd tell whose relationship is more beneficial to us, the USA's or Iran's. India's progress is inspite of its purblind politicians and they know not how to be diplomatically neutral to Iran and still look after India's interests. How can u formulate foreign policies on the dictates of a religious minority?
RE:Iran President's visit
by Ali boy on Apr 28, 2008 04:42 PM Permalink
You sounded decent up untill your last two words, no religious minority has the power to dictate foreign policy.They are so helpless they cannot stop the Prosecution against them.
RE:Iran President's visit
by Krish Karthik on Apr 28, 2008 07:31 PM Permalink
Sorry, no offence meant. (And sorry for the delay in getting back). The remark is solely based on logical inferences from the UPA's postures - doing certain things to please/refraining from doing certain things not to displease the minorities. May be advisors to the Government promising delivery of votes en bloc factor in their own whims and egos and they are not representative of the minorities at large.
