RE:In India minority decides ...
by harpreet brar on Apr 22, 2008 10:47 AM Permalink
dude, then why is entire America going against Bush? Why was Bill Clinton came to the verge of impeachment? And the same Dr. Manmohan Singh u r calling angootha-chaap is the guy who brought india out from the edge of economic collapse..i'm sure u dont even have one tenth of his qualifications..so better think before you point finger at others..
The bane of Hinduism is the manu-smriti thumping clever-by-half upper-castes who believe in the soul-wrenching Karmic-cycle which dooms not only a person, but his descendents as well. Dalits, listen up, the only way to break your Karmic Cycle is to convert to Islam, Christianity, Buddhism or Communism.
RE:Advice to Dalits
by mrhound on Apr 22, 2008 11:20 AM Permalink
Let them convert atleast more seats will be available for the general class...
while in school no one knws each others caste, until they are up for college admission and lo and behold many of the worthless buggers get into those elite colleges bcoz of their caste and the deserving students are left in the lurch....personal experience.
RE:RE:Advice to Dalits
by Nandakumar Chandran on Apr 21, 2008 11:40 PM Permalink
if they convert to any of the three then instead of upper castes, dalits will be under the feet of either mullahs or goras or maoist upper castes. even with buddhism today it is slowly being controlled by the chinese. so what difference is conversion going to make? atleast within hinduism they get quotas etc.
RE:Why Mayawati will decide who the next PM will be
by Indian King on Apr 21, 2008 09:43 PM Permalink
you are wrong AIADMK or DMK or MNS they all are regional parties and they contest and play regional level politics on other all parties from UP like BJP, Congress, or any other they put themself at National level and fight on National issues, same is with BSP and SP theyt want to spread out their agenda at national level.level
RE:RE:Why Mayawati will decide who the next PM will be
by Raj on Apr 21, 2008 11:03 PM Permalink
Regional parties screwing UP and Maharashtra,by playing with people's sentiments.So called leaders Maya and Raj T power hungry,most corrupted have no moral values,once they are in power eat up govt funds,get filthy rich.Only God can save India from these Lalchee Netas
RE:India must have reservations till 85% of all registered marriages are inter-caste.
by hari ray on Apr 22, 2008 10:09 AM Permalink
ur solution proves you are a stupid mr.85%
the control of just 40 lok sabha seats that the article avers mayavati has, does not really give mayavati the clout that the article claims she has. 40 is not even 10pct of lok sabha strength. mayavati is routinely ignored and even insulted by sonia and raul gandi, and she can't do a thing.
BJP's rout in UP is due to its double talk. Look the recent SC's verdict on OBC reservation. Mayawathi whole heartily supported over the exclusion of creamy layer. She had the enormous guts to say that there are plenty of poor among upper castes who also need protection. No party in the Nation had even acknowledged the presence of poor among upper castes. So far the upper castes were wholly supporting BJP. When they feel that even BJP has not openly supported over exclusion of creamy layer, they thought that the BJP is just another party like congress and so they discarded it .Even commies and Gowde supported the exclusion of creamy layer from the purview of reservation. This is a lesson for BJP to take course corrective measures. Other wise they will also slip into oblivion. In Tamil Nadu also the politicians fail to understand the under current among the poor in OBC .They are more wise than before. They covertly murmur over cornering all seats for BC by the rich among them. Soon Dravidian parties will realize their mistake. Things are changing .No one should take any one for granted. RAJ
RE:Luke warm policy of BJP
by Flummoxed on Apr 22, 2008 12:11 AM Permalink
You are right. BJP seems to be party that has lost its soul, its purpose. At one time BJP had the mantle of being disciplined, upright, non-criminalized, democratic party - perhaps even a "Hindu party". Over the years, with completely inefficient performance in states after state markets with in-party bickering and fighting, corrupt politicians, being out of touch with common man, have reduced it be a political party just like any other. No wonder it had been consigned to be "national" party with just a handful of states. What a sorry state to be in, on its path to further marginalization...
There is no proof that todays poor Dalits were anyway inferior to other castes in Hinduism. There have been several rulers from today's so called low caste. In fact, Brahmins came into ascendency only during the British because other castes were too proud to play divide and rule game of Britishers. Before that time, rulers were invariably from other castes. I am happy to see distortions in Hindu society brought by gora rule is finally waning.
Compare this to Christian royal family in UK. Queen is always from the upper caste rest are mere serf.
RE:Hinduism is a dynamic religion unlike Christianity
by benicenow on Apr 21, 2008 08:48 PM Permalink
Topic is Maya.............. She has to show some good result as she has full majority....time has gone when she was accusing others for condition of Dalits......Now lets see how fast she can improve their situation ................
RE:Hinduism is a dynamic religion unlike Christianity
by Sameer on Apr 21, 2008 09:01 PM Permalink
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You are out of your mind. Lok at what monolithic religion have done to each other. Christians are at each others throat. Catholics vs Baptists, vs Mormons, vs orthodox Christians. In fact they are kiling each other most of the time. When they are not fighting each other, they are killing Jews. Of course, we cannot forget white Christians crimes against Black and Brown Christians. Slavery and Christianity goes hand in hand. Show me one one white Christian in black churches in US. Same with Islam. Religion which is supposed to be about equality. Look at Islamic countries. Most of them have either dictators or kings. Common man has very little say. There is equality in impoverishment but no chance to become king or the ruler.
Compare that to Hinduism. Inspite of all the propaganda, there has never been caste wars. All the castes had different roles- no one was superior till Britishers started working with Brahmins and shunned other castes.
RE:Hinduism is a dynamic religion unlike Christianity
by Krishna V on Apr 22, 2008 09:42 AM Permalink
Moreover, dalits have been on purpose retained as dalits by mind and spirit by their leaders who want nothing but power. If their leaders wished good for them, they would have asked dalits to be like others instead of depending on reservations. Plus there is negative publicity done by churces to keep the caste issue boiling and so that they can harvest more souls. Media is heftily paid to so by these churches.
RE:Hinduism is a dynamic religion unlike Christianity
by V H on Apr 21, 2008 09:41 PM Permalink
Rajendra - spoke like a true idiot. Did you know who stupid you converts look in the church workshipping a desert god.
RE:Hinduism is a dynamic religion unlike Christianity
by Northern Barbarian on Apr 21, 2008 10:00 PM Permalink
The bane of Hinduism is the manu-smriti thumping clever-by-half upper-castes who believe in the soul-wrenching Karmic-cycle which dooms not only a person, but his descendents as well. Dalits, listen up, the only way to break your Karmic Cycle is to convert to Islam, Christianity, Buddhism or Communism.
RE:Hinduism is a dynamic religion unlike Christianity
by mahabodhi on Apr 21, 2008 10:35 PM Permalink
@sameer .Not only British but even Muslims too worked with Brahmins!During most of the Muslim rule the Brahamins were exempted from the Zazia tax!(Tax imposed on hindus for pilgrimage)
Its good opportunuty for Maya to do some good work for people as she is in full majority...... If she doesn't deliver good to people she will be outed like Laloo and Mulayam........Caste factir can work for some time but at the end people want to see results......... UP needs development, industrilisation, help to farmer and generate more employment opportunity for people so that they stop migrating to other parts of country....... Now ball is in her hand........ If she manages to deliver undoubtedely she will be next PM.........
