Don't Indians have their own problems with a population of over a billion that they now have to support refugees from Tibet !
When was the last time Kashmiri Pandits (Indians) driven out of their own homeland ever protested in public at the injustice meted out to them ?
India should grant refuge to them on humanitarian grounds. But not at the cost of causing inconvenience to genuine Indian sport lovers who have nothing to do with politics across the border.
If they need to protest, they should do it where the problem really is (in Tibet). Protesting across the globe is not going to help one bit (history is a witness). It will only cause inconvenience to the citizens of that place.
RE:RE:Tibetians should live silently in India
by Proud indian on Apr 18, 2008 09:24 AM Permalink
Chaitanya, Well said man,By the way ignore rahul,He is steaming on u, becasue he has some other problem Rahul,Where are u from?
RE:Tibetians should live silently in India
by Rahul on Apr 18, 2008 09:42 AM Permalink
BTW looks like a communist gang or a Paki gang in an Indian post in disguise of Chaitanya and Proud Indian. I am from Delhi and my mother is a kashmiri so have seen and felt the brunt more than any lip servicing communist sitting in a Ac room and wasting companies resources knowing nothing about pain and anguish of loosing your own land, etc... So I presume you guys have no probs with China occupying India's land, or communist supporting China but are more worried about why u had to stand in the sun for 2 hours. Well no wonder India is where it is today...BTW which part of pakistan are you guys from
RE:Tibetians should live silently in India
by chaitanya s on Apr 18, 2008 09:56 AM Permalink
Hmmm I'm bored of this debate. When a person stoops down to a personal level, I lose interest in the overall conversation.
Share the anguish of the Tibetians and hate China while I search for someone with more class and debating skills.
RE:Tibetians should live silently in India
by Rahul on Apr 18, 2008 09:59 AM Permalink
yeah can understand that's why some jiker called Proud Indian asked me where I am from.. really shows the class ... Good you should look out for some more selfish people like you and prepare to come to streets if your bus doesnot come for 10 mins. Well you can if you not want to still share your pedigree
RE:Tibetians should live silently in India
by Rahul on Apr 18, 2008 09:01 AM Permalink
Well said just like a fellow communist. next time you or your community have any problem whether it has to do with your house, yoru locality your job we donot want to see any of you on the roads. Your message smells of shelfishness, indifference, unhuman and anit-national. If you cannot help millions of people peaacefully demosntrating for a just cause JUST SHUT UP. Can you explain why your CPIM supports China on tibet and in 1962?
RE:Tibetians should live silently in India
by chaitanya s on Apr 18, 2008 09:11 AM Permalink
I am not a communist. I am just a citizen of India who cares about the inconvenience faced by my fellow citizens. Unfortunately we are unable to solve our own problems. Why should we get emotional and add to our woes ?
I am not anti-national since I spoke on behalf of my Kashmiri brothers and sisters.
I would never come on the road to protest. In this fast moving world it is a waste of time. There are much more efficient and concrete ways to solve problems in the community.
RE:RE:Tibetians should live silently in India
by Rahul on Apr 18, 2008 09:19 AM Permalink
You spoke about the inconvenience caused to you and do not want to look at the inconvenience caused to the Tibetians. You forgot the sacrifices made by our brave soldiers in the 1962 war. Just by highlighting Kasmir pandit issues doesnot make you national. It was such a pathetic site yesterday with only security persons and the chinese ambassador with sheila dixit. everytime you see a tibetian on road think of the kind of trauma they would have gone that they have left their homes, land, cattle, language, food etc and living in an alien land. before thinking about you and yoru self think bigger, think about humanity and people who sufferer much hardships in life. if you are not anti-national you are surely selfish
RE:RE:Tibetians should live silently in India
by chaitanya s on Apr 18, 2008 09:38 AM Permalink
I appreciate your humanitarian concern Rahul. The world surely needs people like you to hold the torch of human kindness.
Unfortunately for our country needs to see the light of economic prosperity, only the torch of kindness is not enough. Let us first be self sufficient in the true sense of a developed country and then stretch our hands out to embrace those in need.
I am selfish. I think only about the economic prosperity of MY country and MY people. Every other country is secondary.
a)A joint chinese-paki invasion of Kashmir with the chinese moving their forces from Aksai-Chin and pakis moving in from Azad Kashmir. After it is all over they will partition Kashmir between them with Ladakh going to china and Indian Jammu&Kashmir going to Pakistan. We may able to hold them back so that only Kashmir goes to pakistan and Jammu remains with us. With that our North will have lost substantial amounts of territory.
b)Nepalese incursions into Uttarkhand and Sikkim at china's prodding. This can be beaten back and we can give Nepal a resounding blow.
c)chinese invasion of Arunachal Pradesh and it could be possible that Bangladesh may also be tempted to join in to grab a portion of Eastern states in co-operation with china.
That will leave India truly truncated and de-spirited and broken.
I hope the Goddess of Victory favours our brave Jawans.
Even if this scenario is unlikely to some extant It cannot be ruled out. It is well worth preparing for the worst.
It is true that we are ruled by a bunch of coward and hypocrate people. They only can excercise power by their ruthless police force on defenceless people.Why we succumb to Chinese pressure? Why China couldn't pressurise west? If India allowed Tibetans to protest, we would have felt proud of ourselves. Again we can't expect nothing more than this spineless govt. I want to convey to all Tibetans that we are with you in your struggle for freedom. Our govt. wont speak for us. Our heart is with you. Seena
Such a show of force in a demoratic country was unecessary. Peaceful dissent is the right of every citizen, however unpalatable it may be to the powers that rule and to totalitarian regimes. What should have been a celebration turned out to be a fiasco. The Chinese should talk to HH Dalai Lama and arrive at a mutually acceptable solution. Except the Communists, who serve the interest of their foreign masters, the rest of india is with the Tibetans.
What about common man - travelling from Ashram to lajpat Nagar - 3 hrs - I have missed my flight to Mumbai - DAMN THIS GOVT AND SHOULD SUE THEM "CHINESE PUPPET "
Congrats Tibetians for showing Great Bravery and showing how bad this communist Torch is. It was shameful Indian Government allowed teh torch in New Delhi, LONG LIVE FREE TIBET
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by debjyoti chatterjee on Apr 18, 2008 08:29 AM Permalink
Agree!!! I got fed up to teach this simple thing. On every issue they will bring community infront whereas keep away from discussing the real problem.
I want to congratulate the tibetan protesters for a good show yesterday. Keep up a slow sustained protest thru out the olympics. Forget the Indian govt, the people support you.
RE:Congrats
by Anand on Apr 18, 2008 08:34 AM Permalink
Yes true Indian people's spirit is highly democratic and morally support Democracy all across. But this moment in history does want something more than moral support from people of India and all across world who believe in righteousness and democracy. When their respective governments are failing to act for humanity and civil right. Since Tibetian protests are non voilent and strength of their resistance against foreign chinese rule lies in non voilence. We, all who believe in right means and right ends should not just give verbal and moral support. All we can do is not buy chinese goods and make the oppresive regime of china weak.
