Guru Basavanna founded a new Relegion called " Lingayata". Few contemporaries like Siddharama called it as "Basava Dharma" as it was founded by Guru Basavanna is a non-Hindu, non-Vedic Faith for following reasons: - Hinduism has no one single founder where as Lingayatism has Lord Basavanna as its founder-prophet. - Hinduism based on the preachings of Vedas, Agamas, Bhagawadgita, Mahabharata, Ramayana, Bhagawata, etc. where as Basavanna questioned the authority of all these Hindu Scriptures and rejected many of the tenets contained therein. Vachana literature which opposed four-fold caste system, untouchability, polytheism, inequality and preached equality, monotheism etc. is the authoritative source of knowledge for Lingayats. - Main ritual of Hinduism is Homa, Yajna and Sacrifice. Lingayat religion totally rejects and opposes such rituals. - Hinduism considers places like Kashi, Tirupathi etc as holy and rivers like Ganga, Yamuna etc as sacred. It believes visiting of such places and taking dip in holy rivers will absolve all sins committed. Lingayatism does not consider any such places on earth as holy and any river or pond as sacred and mere dip in water will absolve all sins. Concept of sin and merit in Hinduism and Lingayatism is completely different. - Lingayats do not chant either Geeta or Gayatri, do not worship either Ganga or Govu. - Hinduism believes in 5 pollutions- pollution of birth, death, caste, menstruation and orts. Lingayatism rejects these 5 pollutio
RE:The BJP claims it Unifies Hindus. Yet it fans rife between Tamilians and Kannadigas. Why? The BJP in Karnataka is party of Lingayats, led by Yediruppa. The Lingayata are the most casteist community in India. Why?
by narayan on Apr 21, 2008 07:48 PM Permalink
yes..congress lost dalit vote to bsp !! lingayat vote to bjp brahmin vote to bjp vokkaliga votes to jd(s) idiga vote to sp other lower castes like shetty's naidus,reddy,bunts vote to again bjp st vote to bjp bcoz of vanavasi kalyan work's nayaka vote to various kannada parties
minority vote will be split by jd(s) and congress the only community that is going to support congress in coming election is kuruba's
congress is all set to be wiped out it seems with too much dissidence also !!!
RE:The BJP claims it Unifies Hindus. Yet it fans rife between Tamilians and Kannadigas. Why? The BJP in Karnataka is party of Lingayats, led by Yediruppa. The Lingayata are the most casteist community in India. Why?
by rajana on Apr 19, 2008 01:50 PM Permalink
Lingayats claim that they abolished caste system and yet they are the most casteist in India. All other communities must adopt tactical voting to defeat Lingayat (BJP) rule - vote any party well placed to beat Lingayat (BJP) candidate in any constituency. Make BJP forfeit deposit. Last time BJP forfeited deposit in 42 seats. This time we can aim to triple it
RE:RE:The BJP claims it Unifies Hindus. Yet it fans rife between Tamilians and Kannadigas. Why? The BJP in Karnataka is party of Lingayats, led by Yediruppa. The Lingayata are the most casteist community in India. Why?
by rajana on Apr 19, 2008 01:50 PM Permalink
The Hogenakkal drinking water supply scheme is being implemented by Tamil Nadu on the basis of a No Objection certificate by the Centre. The NOC was issued by the Centre on September 21, 1998 after convening a meeting of both the States on June 29, 1998. At the meeting, Tamil Nadu and Karnataka had agreed not to object to drinking water supply schemes as long as the State concerned utilised water from its allocated share.
The then Karnataka Chief Minister J.H. Patel of JD(S) - former ally of BJP had been the signatory to the NoC.
This is the reason why in this whole tamasha the JD(S) is quiet.
The BJP, Tamil Nadu unit and its ally, AIDMK (both entered into an alliance agreement for the coming polls in Karnataka) spearheaded the opposition pressure on Karunanidhi to react. The BJP, Karnataka meanwhile is trying to milk the issue to gain votes. Rascals
Facts in 1998
1. BJP government at the Center 2. DMK ally of BJP at Center 3. JD(S) led by Son of Soil - Deva Gowda party in Kanataka
Questions
1. If Hogenakkal disputed terrority, why all these parties signed NoC? 2. BJP in power with JD(S) for 2 years, why they did not raise Hogenakkal and why now - two months before elections
BJP is a Lingayat Party in Karnataka. Lingayats are the most casteist community in India. Hogenakkal is only a foretaste of Yediruppa rule. But then, all other communities against Lingayats. So Yediruppa will end like Advani- Perpetual CM-in-Waiting
RE:The BJP claims it Unifies Hindus. Yet it fans rife between Tamilians and Kannadigas. Why? The BJP in Karnataka is party of Lingayats, led by Yediruppa. The Lingayata are the most casteist community in India. Why?
by narayan on Apr 21, 2008 07:48 PM Permalink
yes..congress lost dalit vote to bsp !! lingayat vote to bjp brahmin vote to bjp vokkaliga votes to jd(s) idiga vote to sp other lower castes like shetty's naidus,reddy,bunts vote to again bjp st vote to bjp bcoz of vanavasi kalyan work's nayaka vote to various kannada parties
minority vote will be split by jd(s) and congress the only community that is going to support congress in coming election is kuruba's
congress is all set to be wiped out it seems with too much dissidence also !!!
RE:The BJP claims it Unifies Hindus. Yet it fans rife between Tamilians and Kannadigas. Why? The BJP in Karnataka is party of Lingayats, led by Yediruppa. The Lingayata are the most casteist community in India. Why?
by vivek on Apr 19, 2008 03:00 PM Permalink
Please stop offending others. We are all indians. In this world good and bad souls are there irrespective of caste/religion/region/nationality/state. Let us learn from some of the most selfless indians like Dr Kalam, Mahatma Gandhi, Lal Bahadur Shastri, Sardar Patel, Dr Modi (Eye surgeon who use to run eye camps all over india for free and performed 1000s of surgeries) etc.
Even thieves respect their words of honour while some political parties heap themselves with dishonour, as happened in Karnataka once again. The JD(S) has been enacting the father%u2013son melodrama. Congress must be thanked for not entertaining H D Deve Gowda s attempts to forge an alliance again. It would be far better to support one s sworn enemies with some character than aligning with unreliable people who for the sake of self development would not mind sinking an entire state into the lucrative mines. The JD(S) withdrawal of support to the BJP government in Karnataka has created a new benchmark for political chicanery.
Such a behaviour of moral reverse, after giving individual affidavits to the Governor and parading their MLAs in front of the President, is an uncanny act by anyone who believes in societal and democratic values. Is there no value to a public pledge before the highest constitutional authority in the country
H D Deve Gowda and his son have held the state ransom for the last one and half months to their political machinations. In the process, they have also misled the highest constitutional functionaries during discharge of their duties.
RE:BJP should be supported by all nationalist Muslims
by Akia Khan on Apr 19, 2008 10:02 AM Permalink
Yes, thats for sure. Afterall, Congress did nothing for us. They kept on promissing every time but it did not realise on the ground. The fact is that during BJP rule at the center, there were less comunal violence and our (Muslims) were safe.
RE:BJP should be supported by all nationalist Muslims
by varuni marketing on Apr 19, 2008 02:13 PM Permalink
You are right Nazrul Bhai, but please remember that there good contestants from all political parties,It is better we Hindus, Muslims, Christians vote for the best candidate irrespective of the political affiliation.
The most unfortunate thing in this country is, we all stand devided on the basis of caste and relegion,and this is exploited by all political parties to their best advantage.
Let our wise Kannadigas vote on the basis of credentials of the contestant in this election and let them not vote on the basis of caste.
RE:BJP should be supported by all nationalist Muslims
by Kris iyer on Apr 19, 2008 11:27 AM Permalink
Nazrul and Akia, Both of you have made good points. All Indians of whatever religion, caste, have to live together - meaning go to school, bazaar, office, share the roads, do business with each other, etcetera. Good bijli, rastha - everyone wants. In life, it is best to emphasise the common ground rather than differences. If we focus on differences all the time, even brothers and sisters of the same family have enough to fight with each other. We must identify parties and candidates who "talk sweet" but never "deliver sweet". Somehow, all parties in India believe in the "muslim vote bank". My muslim friends, all graduate and post-graduates, do not vote as a "vote bank". They do not wait for the Mullahs to tell them how to vote. In caste and religious fights, it is important to remember, NO ONE community WINS. But several families lose, public property destroyed. Indians should look at good examples: Singaporeans of all communities worked hard to build modern Singapore. They are all enjoying better income and cleaner environment. They spend very little time on the politics of religion, clan or caste. In the entire sub-continent, too much time is spent on profitless disputes. Collective intelligence is lacking, while individual Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis are very intelligent. You group them, they start arguing and wasting time. Individual Chinese are quiet and not very articulate, but put a group of them together, see how much they achieve.
- The Congress attracted maximum applicants per constituency - there are virtual stampede of applicants. The JD(S) the least. - The Congress still attracts maximum defections. The JD(S) none at all. In fact, it looks that the sheep is deserting the JD(S) lock stock and barrel.
In 2004 Lok Sabha elections the BJP won more than half the seats but could not repeat the same performance for the Assembly elections. Among reasons was that in the Lok Sabha, the stature of Vajpayee came into play and not the likes of local politicians.
Besides BJP's image has suffered due to:
a. Fanning Kannadiga-Tamil disunity in the Hoggenakkal issue b. Selling of tickets to the highest bidder, diregarding winnability of candidates c. Bellary mining mafia controlling the party. In fact, why the JD(S) transfer to BJP did not take place was because the JD(S) objected to this mafia accorded cabinet status d. Packing selection list with only Lingayat candidates, reinforing the image that the BJP in Karnataka is a Lingayat party, alienating it from other communities
On basis of these pointers, the Congress seems favorites to win the elections especially with the base of the JD(S) disintegrating. The return of SM Krishna consolidates the Vokkaliga vote bank behind Congress.
There is high possibility of non-Lingayata communities adopting tactical voting against the BJP. These include Vokkaligas, Muslims and linguistic minorities, particularly Tamils, SCs and STs.
RE:Election Pointers
by Raghavendra Prasad on Apr 18, 2008 11:49 PM Permalink
Karnataka people are more politically matured. They voted for Vajpayee and against Sonia Gandhi in 2004 Lok Sabha elections. But in the Assembly elections, some of them voted for S.M.Krishna as they were impressed with his administration.
No matter how big Congress fan you are, the BJP is going to win Karnataka elections with absolute majority just like it did in Himachal Pradesh and Gujarat. Sonia's hand - death for Congress.
RE:Election Pointers
by Suresh Gowda on Apr 19, 2008 05:48 AM Permalink
You are 100 percent Right Raghavendra. When election day was approaching there was sudden hysteria in Bangalore based English language Media which went something like this. Anyway Vajpayee and BJP are coming at Centre. Please donot allow Karnataka to turn to Gujarat when coverage of Post Godhra riots was a cottage industry for English language media. Due to such malicious propaganda BJP lost many sure seats like Basavanagudi, Rajajinagar, Jayanagar, Hubli City etc. Congress would have been pushed to 3rd place and BJP would have been closer to majority. However karnataka people will correct their mistake and will give BJP 2/3 rds majority.
RE:Election Pointers
by Kumar on Apr 19, 2008 07:58 AM Permalink
Its going to be COngress and Sonia all the way. With Krishna back there is no stopping The one and only National Party to capture power. BJP stooges will bite the dust, JD(S) will beat BJP to the second place.
RE:Election Pointers
by Srikanth Sp on Apr 19, 2008 12:29 PM Permalink
Mr AR, You are talking about tactical voting by non-linagyats. Every hate monger thinks that others are so like muslims and christian fundamentalists. It is ur wishful thinking to think that caste hindus are also communal and narrow minded. Analyse the Gujarat results, you will be shocked to know the unity of hindus against Cong and for Modi.
