And you all must have seen such stories around you. I and My brother started off from a certain section of the society. The section where the so called "OBC", "SC", "ST" lived. We spent our childhood in this locality. All was well, till my brother landed passing his 10th standard in the first class. I was still in the 8th class. The cut-off in the college, for science, was 68% and my brother had scored 67%. He did not get admision in the College. BUT, here was a neighbour, who got admision in the same college. At what percentage marks? Hold your breath, 38%. WHY? You know why. We all started from the same social background. We studied together in the same places. My brother had nothing superior to this SC fellow, other than the brain perhaps. So why did my brother did not get admission and why did he get? And for the first time in my life the seed of hatered was sown in my little head. No, my parents did not teach me reservation, but the reservation system DID. Cut to 2005: My brother is a MBA, PMP, etc etc and leading a successful life. One day we were travelling in our Honda City and we saw that neighbour, and guess what? All the reservation and college admission in science didnt seem to have helped him. He was standing in the BUS que! What did the government achieve? other than planting the seeds of hatered in me?
RE:Heres a true story...
by Sicilian on Apr 12, 2008 10:51 PM Permalink
So you are happy now ? See ? reservations do not help , so let the government proceed and tell your daughters and son your story if they dont get admission..
RE:Heres a true story...
by Anand Rao on Apr 12, 2008 10:56 PM Permalink
You really think I will let my children attend schools and colleges in this country? And let them live here? And where did the "happiness" thingy come in from? I have mentioned the truth and I stand firm with it. I tried to make a point with my post, people can read any message from it, but the writing is on the wall!
RE:Heres a true story...
by Sicilian on Apr 12, 2008 10:59 PM Permalink
So why are you writing in this forum ? Visit "your country's" forum and talk on issues there. All the students know what the cut offs is for general candidates, sc/st's , obcs, handicapped etc etc, everything is open, you dont need to give examples..
RE:RE:Heres a true story...
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:57 PM Permalink
if you dotn live here and dont contribute to the society then you are a bhagoda and a traitor in fact. so you dont have right to discuss any issue here as we are thinking of making better use of the laws by debating the indian society and culture. you are an outsider. get lost.
RE:RE:RE:Heres a true story...
by Anand Rao on Apr 12, 2008 11:00 PM Permalink
You are frustrated, no point talking to you. Not surprised if you will now get down to a cheap language. A distorted language is the sign of a distorted mind.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Heres a true story...
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 11:14 PM Permalink
frustrated me.. why? it is you who is telling stories instead of facts and logics... i have seen brahmins being thrown out because of not performing well. hey wait a min.. now the real story which happendwithme. when i was in 7th class oneguy used to come first always. i joined a new schol in 7th class and met him. he was getting marks only due to one teacher who was holding the post of temporary headmaster and was brahmins. this guy was also brahmins. in the half yearly exams when i got more marks than him. he got an alarm and in the final year i was even close to him. head master worked nicely. in one paper even after the marks were revealed to every one and his markes were made higher just to make them more than me... after that we got separated. then i met him again after joining engineering. and then he was living on tuitions. he was giving tuitions and that to he was reading books and teaching as he did not know english well. today he is nothing, just at the same place in fact just after leaving that school he did not perform well any where the reason is he could not find any brahmin head master again.
so my story proved that brahmins are just waling on the proxy support and they dont have any brain. as per your logics. okay find. so i prove my point.
RE:Heres a true story...
by Gopal Krishna on Apr 12, 2008 10:56 PM Permalink
Good story. Nice to know your brother is a P*MP or whatever! Surely the "villain" in your story has better sense to use public transport and who said travelling by bus is a barometer of one's success?
RE:RE:Heres a true story...
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:58 PM Permalink
that too this guy doesnt live here neigther wants his kids grow in this society. and is available to discuss the happenings in india.
RE:Heres a true story...
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:56 PM Permalink
story is good though it will not sale.but why dont you sale it to yourself. just relax and enjoy the reservation. it is not going to help by the way so why bother. now you will be cursing, why you made this imaginary story out of no where. what a upper cast brain which stinks more than thinks..
RE:Heres a true story...
by Anand Rao on Apr 12, 2008 10:58 PM Permalink
Do you want me to take names? I can name people here! I have never lied in my life. And I will go to the gallows with my story, because it is true. Seems you dont WANT to believe it!
RE:Heres a true story...
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 11:08 PM Permalink
man,there is not only one story, which you are talling. there are plenty of stories flooding here and there and plenty of such evidences yo can find. should i give you example of APJ and say that these OBC muslim are great scientists and some get chance and some are just denied due to this upper cast people holding the key. so does it prove that reservation is valid.okay... then happy. i agree with your argument and you be happy with mine. please.
In the movie fitna, those Suras of Quran are clearly depicted which urges muslim to wage a Jehad against non-believers i.e. non-muslims.
Quran motivates islamic followers to kill non-muslims and spread islam by violence. This movie is a real eye opener and shows the true face of islamic docrine
RE:See the truth about Islamic ideology - watch fitna at themoviefitnaDOTcome
by Sicilian on Apr 12, 2008 10:44 PM Permalink
Dont take name of unholy islam , in this holy caste system forum :)
RE:See the truth about Islamic ideology - watch fitna at themoviefitnaDOTcome
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 11:00 PM Permalink
please visit
IRF dot NET and
themodernreligion DOT com and get all your doubts aboutislam clarified.
there is a link for clarifying and defying the claims made on islam too. please visit them and study them.and take the decidion with your just mind. if yo are unjust you will perish here and life after death.
Shouldnt the people who lost their EVERYTHING in the partition get reservation too? They were thrown in the refugee camps with absolutely nothing to live on. Most of them are still struggling to come up to a bare minimum of life and society...
RE:Humm...
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:47 PM Permalink
now?? after 60 years.?? where is that refugee camp by the way? some people just enjoy talking even if they dont have anything to talk. any body knows what do we call such people. actually we have a particular place for such people. in Agra and in Kanke...
RE:Humm...
by Anand Rao on Apr 12, 2008 10:51 PM Permalink
And where are the people who commited the atrocities on the backward and scheduled classes??? They are all dead, the ones who commited the crimes are dead and the ones who suffered are dead. So why are we still giving reservation? I hope its clear now who needs to go to Agra. I think one side of your brain is not functional, thats is the reason you see only your side correctly not the other side.
RE:Humm...
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 11:04 PM Permalink
you are living in fools' paradise. go to remote areas and you will find still discrimination is going on openly and is at its peak. in the cities, these bunch of upper cast people sitting on the posts and contrling the inflow of people and making sure that no OBC and dalits come so oppression is going on and reservation is required to fight these criminals who are enjoing the pathetic situation of dalits and OBCs.
RE:Humm...
by Mahendra Patel on Apr 13, 2008 08:46 AM Permalink
Patel's are not in upper class but still successful in India and all over world. not by reservation but by hard ethical work and intelligence. This whole story on reservation will not make a dent anywhere, look at American Minority they are still there despite all incentives, So wake-Up INDIA.
The second Point, GOOD TRY BY CONGRESS TO CREATE ANOTHER VOTE BANK- WON'T WORK ON NEXT ELECTION.
RE:Humm...
by Sicilian on Apr 12, 2008 10:41 PM Permalink
They lost everything in partition because they supported caste system, no caste system (stronger hinduisms) , no muslims, no partition , but how do you explain fools this..
RE:Humm...
by Sicilian on Apr 12, 2008 10:43 PM Permalink
And if they (Hindus) still keep the caste system alive, last time they lost land, this time they will loose life..
RE:RE:Humm...
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 11:05 PM Permalink
why you talk about dog suddenl. i feel pity on your mentality.. plesae do think about human rathar than dogs.. i believe that like attracts like.
OBC .. as name suggest backwards ...they will be always backwards ..now world is becoming global villlage .so there is lot of better education outside india ..no problem ..OBC..take it this as mercy and be happy
RE:what is OBC ??
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:44 PM Permalink
impossible. first let OBC take revenge of the last 50 years of subjugation and suppression. after next 50 years may be we shall accept your idea.
RE:what is OBC ??
by abhi on Apr 12, 2008 10:53 PM Permalink
We dont need reservation even without that we have mind , talent ...we will be always ahead of OBC ...so OBC enjoy reservation still u have to serve us because simple ..u dont have mind ..
RE:what is OBC ??
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 11:02 PM Permalink
yes. please suggest this to your brother who is crying that he will not get seats now...
RE:Monnkey's don't line up for visa but Donnkkey's like Swami Dayananda Saraswati do preach~!
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:43 PM Permalink
idont find any difference between them. for a human both are animals...which have got no brain as big as human. they just think about food and human think about much more than just food.
Reservation is Social Imperative by Bhajiya on Apr 12, 2008 10:12 PM | Hide replies | Hide message Just like RSS mind and Shakha people assemble on the Board of Trustee of IIM and IIT and almost all major institutions of the Government where they plant their ideologies to deprive weaker section and eat money and resources reserved for the weaker sections of the society. This injustice and favoritism eventually witnessed and was apparent on the face of outcomes from these institutions in the form of monopoly and supremacy. The myth was aired and propaganda being made that only Brahmin and Baniyas have been gifted good minds by the god to become eligible for IIM and IIT. DO you agree with this contention then who will agree on this planet except beneficiaries who were continuously engaged in this social crime therefore they were deserved this judgment to curtail their activities.
RE:i fully agree with this brother's thought...
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:51 PM Permalink
if you dont have anything intellectual to say then it doesnt mean you will show your idiotic mentality.
no reason, no logic, no argument, but i say this and i will say this.
an adamant behviour is like a monkey who will do what he wants, not what is good and will not give any logic why he wants and says this.
sorry i dont know what to say to lady monkey..
any way, nirasha ki kiran tumhare chehre par aa gayee hogi.dont worry,next time just have some logic instead of just blaming any one.
RE:Why social justice is not provided to Hindus against Islam ?
by Sicilian on Apr 12, 2008 10:27 PM Permalink
So Hindus should go and invade pakistan and afghanishtan and iran... who is stopping them? The fact is Hinduism is / was weak inherently due to caste system ! Make the full parliament full of educated dalits and see how the country (or your hinduism) changes..
RE:RE:Why social justice is not provided to Hindus against Islam ?
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:36 PM Permalink
a small afghanistan has become a thorn in teh usa flesh and usa dares not to attack on iran simply trying to bullying. you are asking hindus to attack on them. they will commit suicide but will never dare to think of attackin on iran and afghanistan. pakistan has nuke, inki puke ho jayegi nuke ke naam se.
RE:RE:RE:Why social justice is not provided to Hindus against Islam ?
by Mahendra Patel on Apr 13, 2008 09:03 AM Permalink
WAIT AND SEE-WHO IS AFRAID OF WHOM , NO NEED TO INVOKE, ARTIFICIAL HATRED AND FOR WHAT?
RE:RE:RE:Why social justice is not provided to Hindus against Islam ?
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:37 PM Permalink
only islam can give life to self destructing india. india is breaking in so many system and those who want to remain united and have the equal rights must embrace islam.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Why social justice is not provided to Hindus against Islam ?
by Mahendra Patel on Apr 13, 2008 08:58 AM Permalink
There is no break-up, the last name does not make casts, besides in free democratic country all are equal Who is Oppressor and Who is oppressed?
LOOK AT CHINA- YOU CAN SEE CLEAR DIFFERENCE.
In INDIA WE CREATE , MIRAGE OF SELF DECEPTION and FABRICATE NON EXISTING ISSUES- SAME ON CONGRESS AND INDIAN JUDICIARY
RE:ISLAM IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN CASTE SYTEM !!!
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:25 PM Permalink
islam gives peace and life to human kind. keeps human on the right path and makes the society based on human equality and social justice. till now it is okay but the problem starts when islam asks to fight against the tyranny injustice and cruelty of people and these butchers who have been ruling and exploiting others for long are not able to do the same to msulims so suddenly muslims became terrorist and deth culth. islam provided peace to the world when whole wordl was crying with pain. islam terminated the war culture and made society based on equal rights for every one. a crime free society. every body please read the islamic history. just search for "historical role of islam" in google and you will the ebook which will give you full reference. may Allah guide us all.
RE:ISLAM IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN CASTE SYTEM !!!
by Sicilian on Apr 12, 2008 10:29 PM Permalink
Islam is number 1 enemy of Dalits due to its slavery and women oppression, may we eliminate caste from hindu system and wipe the islam out..
RE:ISLAM IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN CASTE SYTEM !!!
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:33 PM Permalink
there were so many dalits embracing islam and they know very well that only islam can give the the true equal rights in society as islam doesnt allow the cast system inthe society. i still remember the whole dalit vilage Meenakshipuram in TN during the time if india gandhi embraced islam and then indira tried to lure them back but then did not give up islam as they wanted respect not money. dalits you will find due rights and respect, please embrace islam.
RE:ISLAM IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN CASTE SYTEM !!!
by Sicilian on Apr 12, 2008 10:36 PM Permalink
I love eating roasted pork too much to change to islam :) Long live USA
RE:ISLAM IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN CASTE SYTEM !!!
by Golden on Apr 12, 2008 10:41 PM Permalink
yes, long live all pork eaters. enjoy. we dont have any problem. just dont come out and bite any body ifyou get brain fever.. okya.
by they way bible too forbids pork eating but only those who dont have any religion and remember religion only when they have to abuse islam and fight against muslims do eat pork. and what does a pork eat actually. every body know. so if you eat pork. you eat part of thier meal too. enjoy. i dont have any problem.
