People exaggerate the things. No OBC of 40% can get into Medical college. The cut off for the OBC and SC is slowly catching up with cut off marks for General. I had one experience. My friend who hates reservation applied for the seat in Law College. When we went to the college to the see merit list, he was astonished. He uttered, Had I been an SC also I would not have made into the list. Because he had less marks than the cut-off marks of the SC quota. The things have changed. It is time to accept the reservation in the larger interests of the country. The issue that should be raised is that the job losses to be stopped. There are lakhs of jobs are lying vacant. We must raise together and voice for the real social justice. Jai Hind.
RE:Social justice is must
by aoneall on Apr 11, 2008 11:19 PM Permalink
You can bring horse to the water but you can not make him drink water. Anti reservationists do not want to lisen any thing which is logical and also in the larger interest of the nation.
RE:Social justice is must
by ganesh subi on Apr 11, 2008 11:31 PM Permalink
No..What you are saying is not true. It is reverse that is happening now. Take the case Tamil Nadu that is notable for the reservation. The quality is not compromised. Infact more professionals have come out from Tamil Nadu than before. The complaint that the OBC who has 40% can become Doctor while the General who has 90 cannot become does not hold now. Even the cut-off marks given to the OBC are very closer to the General. These people had a wish to study because they had reservation.
RE:Social justice is must
by Biren Mukherjee on Apr 11, 2008 11:29 PM Permalink
The only interest that the reservation can breed is ineptness. The story that you are trying to make has no foundation. You people fear the competition. For this reason you take the pride of raccoons. Reservation is a social injustice to tallents. It is recognition of racial and social bias meted to a certain group of individuals. The very idea of Ambedkars reservation has failed to give prosperity to the SC/ST mass. This reservation has made no progress in the lives of SC/ST in the past 50 years and will produce nuts no matter how long it goes.
RE:Social justice is must
by aoneall on Apr 11, 2008 11:59 PM Permalink
Why do you worry about reservation? Your general quotal seats are being kept intact. Remember, India made real economic progress after 91 and that is the year OBC reservation started in central government jobs. I can assure you that once OBC reservation is extended to private sector jobs, India will become an economic super power. So, for the development of India from an extremely poor country to a developled country, support reservation.
RE:Social justice is must
by Biren Mukherjee on Apr 12, 2008 12:16 AM Permalink
Support reservaion and waste talents!India could have progressed a lot after 1991 had the reservation system not burdened the country.However, I agree with you that,like SC/STs, most of the OBCs quota will not be fullfilled.This is because you can make a horse breed but not a mule.
RE:Social justice is must
by VM on Apr 12, 2008 03:26 AM Permalink
all the progress that India has achieved after 1991 is because of the private sector and not because of OBCs working in govt jobs. India's great IT sector and BPO industry has been made possible because of the HUGE investment the west made in the internet and the fiber optic network across the globe. OBCs had nothing to do with that
RE:Social justice is must
by v m on Apr 11, 2008 11:53 PM Permalink
Infact, OBC 27% quota will go unused. All OBCs are scoring higher than general merit people
I'am an upper caste Maharashtrian who completed engineering qualifications from VJTI on merit and also MBA from IIM Ahmedabad on merit...
Today, i work for a leading US investment bank and earn $ 280,000 per annum in Wall Street!!
But i don't have any upper class arrogance about me, i still feel that the lower castes are suffering from the effects of discrimination which their forefathers were subjected to by which many of them were denied primary education!
Those ill effects are observed even today, so until those ill-effects are seen, it is better to have some kind of reservation!!
It is now the responsibility of the upper caste people to ensure that the right value systems are inculcated in OBCs/SC/Sts and they are in a position to achieve success without any handholding, say 10 years from now!!
RE:I'am an upper caste but i support the decision taken by SC!!
by v m on Apr 11, 2008 11:08 PM Permalink
Please demand 27% reservation for black in USA and pledge to get treated by black doctors only, Please! And 27% of USA Olympics team should be black!! Hey it is more than 27%, so should be restricted to 27%, so that 73% reservation in all sports teams to implemented for non-black!!! :-)
RE:I'am an upper caste but i support the decision taken by SC!!
by ganesh subi on Apr 11, 2008 11:24 PM Permalink
What made the IITians and IIM people to stage dharna in california in 2006 against the reservations? It is because you can just count the people staying back in India after studying in IIT and IIM.
RE:I'am an upper caste but i support the decision taken by SC!!
by Karthikeyan B on Apr 11, 2008 11:19 PM Permalink
ask urself if u had 27% more reservation wud u have made it to the vjti itself. eave alone iim a
RE:I'am an upper caste but i support the decision taken by SC!!
by Biren Mukherjee on Apr 11, 2008 11:13 PM Permalink
There will be a new era of anarchy and infidelity that used to prevail in medieval century! India will soon be full of inept and non-professionals.
RE:I'am an upper caste but i support the decision taken by SC!!
by Aritra Ghosh on Apr 12, 2008 12:00 AM Permalink
Dude... get a life... no need for ur Resume... u could have said what u want without gving all that crap... dont think that ur publishing of the spectacular resume will make ur point any stonger...
RE:I'am an upper caste but i support the decision taken by SC!!
by Dingbat on Apr 12, 2008 12:07 AM Permalink
Never wanted to sound boastful and seriously, there is nothing to be boastful about...there are lots of guys in Wall street who earn far more than me.... Just wanted to substantiate the point that upper class respectability does not confer superstar status by which you have the right to lampoon other castes...$280,000 was just mentioned to substantiate my respectability...
Many successful upper caste guys in US and in India treat these lower castes with disdain and contempt...that is exactly what i wanted to drive home.....success does not mean that you can treat others with disdain and look down on them!! Hope i have made my point clear!!
RE:I'am an upper caste but i support the decision taken by SC!!
by John Miles on Apr 11, 2008 11:07 PM Permalink
Why are you advertising your salary? Just make the point and move on....no need to advertise what you are, got it??
RE:I'am an upper caste but i support the decision taken by SC!!
by Dingbat on Apr 11, 2008 11:14 PM Permalink
I never wanted to advertise it, but why are having an inferiority complex?? Cos you could not make it in life?? Loser!!
RE:RE:I'am an upper caste but i support the decision taken by SC!!
by aus ant on Apr 11, 2008 11:33 PM Permalink
'But i don't have any upper class arrogance about me', you said. you also said.'Today, i work for a leading US investment bank and earn $ 280,000 per annum in Wall Street!!' Typical gh@@ti hypocrite!
I am proud to be a brahmin. I am a proud bramhin. I am proud of our culture.Reservations may come and go, but it makes more and more stronger and gives the will power to perform better. You people may take away our seats, you cannot take away our talent and intelligence. We are proud Brahmins.
RE:A proud brahmin
by devedas bhaskar on Apr 11, 2008 11:38 PM Permalink
The Mahabharata says, " All are born a Shudra .One becomes a Brahmin by doing righteous deeds". Righteous deeds includes helping the fellow Hindus who have been kept suppressed for several millenia....And being proud is certainly not a Brahminic quality..
RE:What Goes Round comes Around!!!
by mandook on Apr 11, 2008 11:17 PM Permalink
Ha ha hi hi, Brahmins and Baniyas will have the last laugh, anyway, you will see that for sure. The Supreme Court has already that if in sixtyyears there has been no improvement in the situation, there is something seriously wrong with the SC/ST and OBCs. It is better that they all undergo some gene test and transplant some genes from Brahmins and Baniyas.
This verdict would remain as an example where castism surpassed merits. By giving chances to unqualified candidates SC has forced the country backwards. As a result more non professionals will be produced in highly valued sectors like Engineering and Medical. The standards of IITs and AIIMS will go down and India will be declared a country of inept people. In that scenario, foreign investments will reach at its low ebb and NRIs (higher caste) will not send the money. So SC/ST/OBC be prepared to push the country on swamps!
RE:An unfortunate decission.
by v m on Apr 11, 2008 11:04 PM Permalink
27% of the 5 years, 16 months in every 5 years, all the ministers, PM, President, Congress Party president(Super PM) should be from OBC! Arjun Singh and Gandhis will oppose this for sure!!!
RE:An unfortunate decission.
by chamar on Apr 12, 2008 01:02 AM Permalink
setting up of new iit & iims will dilute the standard add to this the new reservation nd it will ruin the whole system as a whole and put a finger in everyones hole!
RE:An unfortunate decission.
by Biren Mukherjee on Apr 11, 2008 11:11 PM Permalink
Yes-a new age of anarchy and infidelity that used to prevail like medieval century! India will soon be full of inept and non-professionals.
RE:RE:An unfortunate decission.
by Biren Mukherjee on Apr 11, 2008 11:12 PM Permalink
Yes-a new age of anarchy and infidelity that used to prevail in medieval century! India will soon be full of inept and non-professionals.
RE:An unfortunate decission.
by mandook on Apr 11, 2008 11:19 PM Permalink
The new age of (mis)rule by OBCs, Minorities, Backwards, where the country will go down further.
Universities afiliated to the UGC have done great service to the nation and society at large. Why people are making IIT & IIM as something extra ordinary whare as fact is they did nothing in last 40 years except producing Brahmin and Baniya 80 % graduates from these institutes you check their list of graduates. The same people after becoming CEO of Indian companies promoted IIT & IIM Monopoly into private sector as premier Indtitute to favour their upper caste candidates is conspiracy and well organised and planned strategy. IIT & IIM fall victim of their own stratagy because of market preference become coveted destination for every one. Where as all serious simple graduates from all UGC afiliated Universities silently migrated abroad for advance research and working as well as promoting their business become more in number of succesful Indians abroad as compare to IIM & IIT graduates
RE:IIT & IIM is Commercial Gimmick
by Bhajiya on Apr 11, 2008 11:09 PM Permalink
In the field of market driven economy brand dosenot work only perforamnce works. Those days have gone where people used to work for life time for one organization and organization could afford non performers. Today sheltering and promoting business bring harm rather than doing good to any organization. More diversed organization perform well than homogenous organization.
Congrats to Arjun by v m on Apr 11, 2008 10:37 PM Private Companies and MNCs will prefer non-OBC-non-IIT to OBC-IIT! So Arjun singh will force reservation on Private companies also, there by driving them out of India!! Congrats to Arjun!!!
RE:OBC-IITs need reservation in private company jobs too
by mandook on Apr 11, 2008 11:22 PM Permalink
In the Campus interviews, if at all some OBCs qualify themselves, they will be asked whether they entered the IITs and IIms as under reserved category or otherwise. Then suitable decisions will naturally follow. Then these guys will go to PSU companies again under reserved quotas, and retire from there into Old Age Homes again under reserved category.
Aryans time is up... Upper Caste predominately aryans whre swwep aside by Mayawati... and with this reservation... Wounds inflicted by Aryans on Original Caste will be healed to some extent... earlier aryans thrived having reservation.. like caste.. Now Justice is done!!! Great Job Congress!!! and BSP...
RE:Now its time for Original Caste to Rule India
by mandook on Apr 11, 2008 11:24 PM Permalink
Ha ha hi hi continues to blabber on website when his real place should be in an asylum under reserved category!
RE:27% of the cricket team should be OBC
by mandook on Apr 11, 2008 11:25 PM Permalink
Narayanan came to be President, merely because he was OBC or SC!
RE:27% of the cricket team should be OBC
by v m on Apr 11, 2008 11:00 PM Permalink
27% of the 5 years, 16 months in every 5 years, all the minister, PM, President should be from OBC! Arjun Singh will oppose this for sure!!!
RE:27% of the cricket team should be OBC
by chamar on Apr 12, 2008 01:04 AM Permalink
rather than only the team the rules should also be slaggened for them to play with least effort but get maximum benefit!!!!!!!
RE:27% of the cricket team should be OBC
by ganesh subi on Apr 11, 2008 11:09 PM Permalink
you people exaggerate the things. No OBC of 40% can get into Medical college. The cut off for the OBC and SC is slowly catching up with cut off marks for General. I had one experience. My friend who hates reservation applied for the seat in Law College. When we went to the college to the see merit list, he was astonished. He uttered, Had I been an SC also I would not have made into the list. Because he had less marks than the cut-off marks of the SC quota. The things have changed. It is time to accept the reservation in the larger interests of the country. The issue that should be raised is that the job losses to be stopped. There are lakhs of jobs are lying vacant. We must raise together and voice for the real social justice. Jai Hind.
RE:27% of the cricket team should be OBC
by v m on Apr 11, 2008 11:14 PM Permalink
In that case OBCs would oppose 27% reservation! Because they can compete for the whole 100% without reservation!!
