RESERVATION IS JUST A SYMPTOM. NOT THE ROOT CAUSE.
Unless we Indians understand the concept of smaller government, I find it difficult to be optimistic about a change in our daily lives.
Think about it, - The government is the biggest employer in the country - The government does NOT make any money, it collects money and then spends it in an un-wisely fashion (I am saying that in a very polite way)
We are still living in this seudo-communist state, where we think government is the solution to all problems. When infact, government is the root of all problems.
I will not blame any government here. It is the nature of the Beast. It is not the right institute to solve our nations problems.
Government will always pander to get votes, because it is a political outfit. We need less government and more private firms.
Private firms run on profits, THE BOTTOM LINE. They have benchmarks They are accountable They have to make profits (Share Holder investment) They are LESS prone to corruption They have leadership that is not pandering to any voting block They encourage competition, eventually to the benefit of the consumer They do NOT have reservations They reward hard work They FIRE lazy people
Agree, private firms cannot do everything. The nations defense, Tax collection, Judiciary and some other functions need to be with the government. Nothing more than that.
A bigger government is a recipie for discrimination, exploitation, corrupti
RE:Root Cause of Problems - Role of Government.
by gac on Apr 10, 2008 11:55 PM Permalink
bottom line private ownership looks for the benefit of the share holder in sense to make profit alone and dosnt care abt the consumers or the public... public ownership looks the benefit of the consumer or the public alone and not the profit alone.
RE:Root Cause of Problems - Role of Government.
by imran patel on Apr 11, 2008 12:03 AM Permalink
And who are the share holders ? They are common citizens like you and me.
Where have you been for the last 10 years ?
Have you ever compared the services of a State Bank that to a private Bank ?
Is that was "Benefit" of the consumer looks like ?
take off your COMMIEEEE glasses and see the difference between government run systems and private companies.
Ever applied for a driving Licence ? Ever applied for a telephone connection in the 90's ? Ever went to a post office Vs Courier Service ?
RE:Root Cause of Problems - Role of Government.
by gac on Apr 11, 2008 12:09 AM Permalink
imran, share holders in india is only abt 2% of our population,leave that majority of indians wont kno the meaning of shares.. come to reality india is still a poor nation where still people die of hunger, malaria etc.. we are not america where most of them are shre holders
RE:Root Cause of Problems - Role of Government.
by imran patel on Apr 11, 2008 12:13 AM Permalink
Have you ever thought why after 60 years we still have people die of Hunger ?
We have these "Socialist" or "Communist" policiues in place for the last 60 years ?
Has anyone checked if they made a positive impact ?
Its been 2-3 generations since we got independence. And you are telling me that we still have people dying from Hunger. So does that not mean that these social programs have failed !!!
RE:Root Cause of Problems - Role of Government.
by OBC Yadav on Apr 11, 2008 12:08 AM Permalink
Imran I think you are living in dream land. Common people do not own Shares. Even if they do, they are not more than 0.01% person like you. Our Indian stock market is manipulated, almost all the shares are owned by industrilist himself.
RE:Root Cause of Problems - Role of Government.
by OBC Yadav on Apr 11, 2008 12:00 AM Permalink
Your less government has caused Mortagage crisis in US. Investment Bank like Bear Stern did some risky investment because of less regulation and has almost brought 1929 like depresion. There should me more, better regulation (OH! excuse me more Govt) to keep market out of these stupid speculator.
Please Imran Last time, Use your own thoughts. don't write what you recently read form some article.
RE:RE:RE:Root Cause of Problems - Role of Government.
by OBC Yadav on Apr 11, 2008 12:11 AM Permalink
FED bail them out because this would have been a devastation on ficiancial market. I think you need a lesson or two on economics. You can educate yourself in economics, by reading a book or two from some Stanford or Harvard professor. I pitty you guys who write blog by reading newspaper. And present those view on Desi Blogs as your own.
RE:Root Cause of Problems - Role of Government.
by OBC Yadav on Apr 11, 2008 12:24 AM Permalink
You need lesson on current Mortagage crisis. Fed making deals on Banks behalf. Next time, you improve your content and we will discuss. Your are not offering any meaning full content. You are just bablling. Good luck
This judgement is and will remain an ever glittering blemish on secularism. From now onwards, the word 'secular' should be detached from India and and it should be renamed a cste based backward country. It is abysmally ironic that though it is a secular country, here everything is done on the basis of caste and religion. It is a shame on us.
RE:RE:NOt in Pak
by Vijay B on Apr 11, 2008 02:08 AM Permalink
Hey buddy Imran,
Notwithstanding your older comments, this one was a GEM! :) Buddy.. one thing though.. don't you think each one of us has the freedom to pursue what he or she thinks? I'm talking about the religion.. isn't it a personal thing? Its so sad to see people's weaknesses being manipulated so blatantly and immorally to turn them against each other..
Why does VP Singh go to US/UK for his treatment?? WHy not he chose the someone from a reserved category??? Afterall Reservations are there in Medicines too.
RE:Why?
by surath mukherjee on Apr 10, 2008 11:52 PM Permalink
Idiot knickerwallah. He goes the reserved category doctors who migrated to England found a new and effective treatment. Use your common sense man. Don't show ignorance
The judgment is a landmark one, but with it begins a sad and unforunate chapter of our country. (1) From now on the premium is on backwardness. (2) Merit would be given a decent burial. (3) From now on we would be a nation of backwards. (4) Further social stratification on caste lines would occur. India from now on would be a country of castes and subcastes, minority and majority religions, the politically strong ones reaping all the benefits, pushing the rest into total neglect. An era of REVERSE DISCRIMINATION is ushered in.(5) The richer sections in the OBCs reap a double benefit. (6) The meritorious poor in the 'upper' castes, would have to silently groan, more so with the increasing addictive tendency of the political establishment to splurge huge amounts of public money on populistic sops, subsidies, concessions and incentives. (7) Minority religionists continue to be showered with all boons. (8) Where is space for the poor of the 'upper' castes? (9) Our idea of development and uplift is, to deliberately and cruelly pull down some to accommodate others, instead of giving a lift to the 'backward' without harming the prospects of others. EsterAstir
RE:Progression as a backward country
by Venkat on Apr 10, 2008 11:52 PM Permalink
Execellent Writing. This is what happens in future and world is watching at India. MNC's will think twice to appoint IITens /IIMs from now on. We are clearly going backward.
The most talented Brahmins will go criminals. Our country will go dogs. Instead of Raam raj...... it becomes.....
RE:Progression as a backward country
by A. Swaminathan on Apr 10, 2008 11:59 PM Permalink
Venkat, This OBC quota is excluding creamy layer. Don't you think, you have to give something to poor and underprivileged people in your country. Sitting in TX-USA, you won't understand the plight of poor here in India.
RE:RE:Progression as a backward country
by Venkat on Apr 11, 2008 12:13 AM Permalink
Dear Swaminathan, Sitting in USA, we dont sleep happily if India is burning, afterall, India is my home. U dont realize the feeling of Indians outside India unless you are there,if you did, you dont talk like this for sure. Our mind works for where evere we are in the world, but our heart is always India.
Reservation for whom? for rich people or cast based? is the question. In upper casts economically backwards are there in Huge nos. Similarly in OBC, rich people are in Huge nos.
Let me tell you this is Just another example of worst politics from a National party, deviding Hindus.
RE:RE:Progression as a backward country
by A. Swaminathan on Apr 11, 2008 12:01 AM Permalink
This MNC's will not recruit anybody without conducting aptitude test and interview. Are we arguing for Job reservation? Only for education. That too , you are not willing to part some part. So greedy !!
RE:Progression as a backward country
by A. Swaminathan on Apr 10, 2008 11:46 PM Permalink
Have you not understood / read the creamy the creamy layer exclusion for OBC ?
RE:RE:Progression as a backward country
by Venkat on Apr 10, 2008 11:58 PM Permalink
Dear Swaminathan, Have you not understood 'how easily we can get the income cirtificate in India' being in India?
Sorrry for you, seems you are happy with the judgement.
Now for this moment OBC may feel happy & laugh, but am sure tomarrow when their sons/daughters becomes educated/talented then they will understand the value of merrit. Dont try to say this rule will go after some time. Reservation once maintained will never go in our country.
RE:Progression as a backward country
by Ester Astir on Apr 11, 2008 12:24 AM Permalink
Dear Swaminathan, The ceiling for creamy layer is as high as Rs2.50 lacs. Many of the 'upper' caste people have incomes far less than Rs1 lac? And the governments keep on raising the creamy layer income ceiling, just as they are indefinitely extending the reservations, expanding the reservations, in a way similar to very frequent and steep raise of MP's and MLA's salaries & perks. EsterAstir
The problem is that all anti reservationists talk reason while that is the last thing the government listens to. Start a militant organization and threaten the government or demand a separate country and the governmen will awake the very next day
RE:reservation
by Ester Astir on Apr 11, 2008 12:32 AM Permalink
Ravan, When you hate Brahmins so much, why have you named yourself after 'Ravan' who was a Brahmin? Anyway, where are Brahmins, as a caste, in the country? All the anti-Brahmin people and groups came together and butchered every Brahmin in the country. So there is no Brahmin to die, because everyone has already been killed. EsterAstir
RE:reservation
by ice tea on Apr 10, 2008 11:52 PM Permalink
Ravan raj, brahmins dont exist anymore in india you moron! are u saying none of them other than brahmins consider themselves forward today?
RE:Reservation NOT the solution. Personal Story.
by gac on Apr 10, 2008 11:40 PM Permalink
insulting? probably u guyz r getting threatened by this verdict.
RE:RE:Reservation NOT the solution. Personal Story.
by imran patel on Apr 10, 2008 11:46 PM Permalink
Zimbabwe is a perfect example when government tries to enforce "Social Justice".
Hard work and right priorities will uplift the deprived. Not reservations. Its been 2-3 generations since we got independence. Has the Reservation policy made a difference.
Doing the same thing and expecting a different result is called INSANITY. That is what the reservation policy is. INSANE.
FREE Markets and INDIVIDUAL CHARITY is the key to have a prosperous society.
A Cradle-Grave Nany state where Government is considered to be the BOSS/KING/SUSTAINER is a recepie for DISASTER.
RE:Reservation NOT the solution. Personal Story.
by OBC Yadav on Apr 10, 2008 11:53 PM Permalink
What do you know about Zimbabwe?? only what you read in Western media. This guy Robert Mugabe tried to distribute land among poor. In Zimbabwe, 1% white population control 95 % of arable land. Mr. Mugabe tried to distribute this land equally among black. Britain and other western countries got pissed off. They put saction on Zimbabwe, then their economy failed. Price rised to 1000 % . Now imporvised Zimbabweian has no option but to vote Mugabwe out of power. Wester way of changing regimes, put saction. Collective punishment for no crime of their own.
RE:Reservation NOT the solution. Personal Story.
by gac on Apr 10, 2008 11:49 PM Permalink
why are going to Zimbabwe dear, pls check the south indian state TN and take some ve points. "u will only get wat u see"....
RE:Reservation NOT the solution. Personal Story.
by Praveen George on Apr 10, 2008 11:54 PM Permalink
I guess there is confusion between reservations for minorities. Being a minority is not a reason to get any reservation, but if a particular community , like a tribal group is backward due to geo-social reasons then they definitely qualifies for a government program
RE:Reservation NOT the solution. Personal Story.
by Sadaf Kapoor on Apr 10, 2008 11:38 PM Permalink
Great Imran...India is really proud of you. Salute to your parents and upbringing...
