I think RSS unleashed a very evil ideology.it made you doubt your own brother,your own father,it made you paranoid.we indians must unite and defeat the ideology which took away the father of nation from us.
RE:Ban RSS
by Bharat Prashar on Apr 09, 2008 10:09 PM Permalink
Chandrakanth, No point in expecting a (self proclaimed) mad person)or for that matter a mad DOG to behave rationally. The best way to deal with Lunatics and mad dogs is just to ignore them because eventually they get tired of barking.
RE:Ban RSS
by Bharat Prashar on Apr 09, 2008 09:55 PM Permalink
Me thinks your brain must have been switched off when you posted these comments. The topic under discussion is "7 killed in Karachi riots; Musharraf appeals for peace" and you suddenly start wailing on about RSS, the death of the father of INDIAN nation and the need for the INDIANS to unite against the RSS ideology!!! Of course it is also possible that this is really a true indicator of your mental capacity. In that case one can only sympathise with you (for your lack of intelect that is)
Ancient spiritual belief further had it that a person who suffered misfortune or overly suffered from the human instinctual passions of fear and aggression was 'possessed' by bad or evil spirits. Relief was sought by offering sacrifice or avowing servitude to the mythical good spirits or Gods in return for favours, forgiveness, redemption and salvation, if not now then in an imaginary life-after-death.
Each tribe has, over millennia, formalized its own particular religion based on these ancient words, traditions, fears, superstitions and eccentric fairy tales.
Shamans, priests and God-men soon laid claim to be the earthly representatives of these mythical 'other- worldly spirits and Gods and, as such, their words and deeds were taken to be sacred and inviolate.
Thus the shamans, priests and God-men came to wield enormous power and influence, for to dare to question them was to provoke the evil spirits, incur the wrath of the Gods and ultimately deny oneself the chance of salvation in an imagined future life-after-death.
RE:BHAGWAN KA INSAF FOR HATRED TO HINDU-TO END OF PORKISTAN
by viswanatha seshadri on Apr 09, 2008 09:59 PM Permalink
In agreement with your perception, Bannerjee.
RE:72 virgins
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 09:46 PM Permalink
*dasratha* to the help of saint for "cloning" one fetus into 101 off-springs (100 sons and 1 daughter). Cloning was popular in ancient India. Have you not read the Mahabharata? We had even ICBMs and Anti-ICBMS!!!!!!!!
RE:RE:72 virgins
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 09:48 PM Permalink
O, sorry, what I have written in about "Dritarashtra" of Mahabharata. Anyway the sages were only helping even Dasaratha with IVF technology. That was also popular in ancient India.
RE:72 virgins
by Ashok Kumar V.K. on Apr 09, 2008 09:52 PM Permalink
Soldier have some sense. When you die ask your wife to have copulation with your dead body and get some children. Non-sense....Brainless fellow.
RE:RE:RE:72 virgins
by Ashok Kumar V.K. on Apr 09, 2008 11:14 PM Permalink
My father didn't teach nasty things like your father tought to you fool. And more on I am proud to be Hindu,not fanatic hidu like your community. Before saying anything have some brain.
RE:72 virgins
by Mohammad Amin on Apr 09, 2008 09:53 PM Permalink
u r wrong.jahad doesn't means killing other people.it is control over ourself, in that time also muslim do jehad only when they attac by there enemys.if u will read details of islam n what massanger mohammad said than u will change ur mind.u cann't ooat a community by a some people.Watch saudi arebia where people live without fear thousand of hindu families stay there n fell secureity more than India
Any way as per the scheme of things of the "most merciful allah" about 83% of world's population (all kafirs) are the rightful owners of hell fire. So it does not make any difference to any paagan whether he worship one god or many gods or do not worship any god at all!
RE:Dear Muslim friends,
by farid patel on Apr 09, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
God has given you intellect and reasoning why dont u use it and change and accept the truth...God forgives those who come to the right path...if you come to islam God will forgive you all previous sins..God willing..
RE:Dear Muslim friends,
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 09:42 PM Permalink
Yes, of course, I have read The Quran. The Allah described in the same is more vengeful than a Las Vegas Mafia don!!!!
RE:RE:Dear Muslim friends,
by asad syed on Apr 10, 2008 01:19 AM Permalink
JGN, otherwise what kind of world you want to live in? anger and punishment is a part of human nature...kind of masculine characteristic as well as assurance to maitain justice in society...so what if God threatened you to stop you from doing wrong things? Why we have Indian constitution? why there is law and order? why we fear that if we keep any arm like AK-47 without license then we will go to jail..don't we use threat in all these laws? then whats wrong if God says you if you do rape a girl you will burn in hell. Do you want the God to approve rapes, murders, injustice, oppression??? And kaafir will not burn in hell just because they are non muslims..they will burn in hell for their sins...do i need to define the types of sin human beings do??? I think you want to live in a society where ther is no violence...not even by words there is no threat or prohibition...no restrictions...any man could love any woman...even man could love man..and woman could love woman...infact soon animal sex will be legalised in western culture and you could marry your dog or cat....but no threats..no violence....goody goody....lovely lovely....is that your ideal society without relgion?
In answer to this we always get replies that more or less suggest that religion is the actual devil blocking the progress of humanity.This is especially true in the case of Muslims who bear the brunt of this onslaught from this so called intelligentsia.Finally The much celeberated secular edifice is finally crumbling.Here is why
Copernicus Revolution - Touted by the secular west as the gigantic leap from religious dogmaticism into enlightment is after all found to be a shameless plagiarism by the Nicolus copernicus.
and from whom he stole it?Nasirudin al Tusi and Ibn Shatir the great medival islamic scientists.what is striking is,he was not just influenced by them rather,he had copied their works verbatim and shamelessly took credit for centuries.
In academic cricles copernicus is already trashed for his plagiarism and the new book The Ancient Roots of Modern Science by Dick Teresi has brought this into public forum. A review of this book is here
Institue for Oreintal study - Thane (This is actually a Hindutuva website,i gave this because something as fundamentally challenging as this would require a website favorable to them )
RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 09:39 PM Permalink
Dear Balaord, some absurd beliefs of the hindus do not make them "gospel truths" It really saddens me when even well educated persons like you are repeating the outdated religious dogmas.
Do you believe that "the most merciful allah" has kept ready some "Paradise" with abundant supply of "wine, woman, water, fruits, etc" ????
RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
can you scientifically prove the non existence of GOD or Heaven or Hell? The answer is simple NO.But some how the followers of atheism hide behind science and call those who belive in GOD and Heaven as outdated and uneducated as if these are emprically proven facts. I have thousand reasons to belive in the existence of GOD than not.I dont have the blind faith to belive that everything with its inter depenedencies and perfection came into being with out a designer behind it.
RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by asad syed on Apr 10, 2008 01:30 AM Permalink
JGN, why you question the ability of God for supplying " abundant" wine water fruits etc? ( abundant women is an exageration from yourside..i dont know you did it deliberately as usual to disparage Islam or just included by mistake ...don't say 72 virgins are abundant etc etc ) Just tell me...can you tell how big is our universe? or how many starts or celestial objects are there in space? take any units..."light years to travel" for measuring the size of the universe...can you give me exact figure? at least no. of stars??? So if God could creat this much bigger universe, what will stop him from providing a paradise with abundant fruit, wine and water??? Besides whatever the fundamentals of applies sceince, sociology, economics,logic and intellectual thinking you are using to judge God...these are knoweldges have come to us by studying and experimenting the existing world around us...like we throw the stone in air and it come back to earth...we call it gravity...but if you go in space there is no gravity....so you can make use of gravitational force of earh within the influencial sphere of earth....in the same way...whatever knowledge of different subjects you have..it applies to us...human beings...but u can not judge God with this trivial knowledge...God is not like us human beings...his properties are different...
RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
Pl leave him alone. He is content with pasting links and resting on the past laurels.
RE:RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 09:49 PM Permalink
There is nothing past or present about these things.Modern science cannot exist without these foundations.
RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 09, 2008 09:50 PM Permalink
I am proud of u JGN. U r expressing ur views neutrally and non-biasing but I have watched all muslim attender r either pasting or expressing views with hatred , obsenity, uncultured way . I am shameful to think that Indian muslims were our brother only as they were earlier hindus only , may be our long relatives.Indian Muslim , do not hate hindu because they r ur past and present.
RE:RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by asad syed on Apr 10, 2008 01:35 AM Permalink
knock knock... Saugata Banerjee...actually it should be vice versa.... anyways...good try to hide the nasty nature of the comments from "yourside" and label it against "ourside" any guy who will read all the comments from ppl like you or JGN and then the comments of ppl like balrod or other such guys will judge very well who is doing what.... if you try to spat with your face up towards sky...it will fell back on your face.... and JGN is the biggest "copy/paste" warrior I have ever seen on rediff.
RE:RE:Is religion a stumbling block to progress??
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 09:47 PM Permalink
I am expressing my views, the only difference is I am also giving references to substantiate my claims.I cant help.If my reference overshawdows my views.
RE:True faith
by farid patel on Apr 09, 2008 09:32 PM Permalink
I think we can pass criticism without using filthy language both hindu and muslim should stop insulting each other and criticize each other in a more civilized way....we can still unit with all the diferences....peace
RE:True faith
by Raj on Apr 09, 2008 09:40 PM Permalink
It is really sad that Islam is such a weak religion,violence in karachi proved muslims killing muslims,and number of muslims dying,sign of end of Islam
the world has become bloodier, violent and insane and moralless since christianity and islam took birth.....no wonder middle ages are the bloodiest in human history becoz evil religions called islam and christianity took birth in middle ages.....the world was peaceful and happier when hindu religion, budhism ruled the world before 1st century AD.....
RE:evil religions
by observer on Apr 09, 2008 09:34 PM Permalink
I beg to differ with you.I think RSS unleashed a very evil ideology.it made you doubt your own brother,your own father,it made you paranoid.we indians must unite and defeat the ideology which took away the father of nation from us.
RE:evil religions
by kalyan ram on Apr 09, 2008 09:38 PM Permalink
excuse me! it is evil religion called ISLAM which is resonsible of division of india in pakistan , india and bangladesh.....what about jinnah asking an seperate country called pakistan in the name of ISLAM?.....
RE:evil religions
by observer on Apr 09, 2008 09:45 PM Permalink
IT was RSS which was responsible for the partition.having hitler as there hero and such a fascist ideology,is that any surprise?
RE:evil religions
by farid patel on Apr 09, 2008 09:30 PM Permalink
Islam is not a new religion....Islam means submitting your will to God...God send messengers since the first human on earth with the message to worship God alone, without any partners and avoid false gods....There were 1,24000 messengers sent on the face of the earth.peace
RE:evil religions
by farid patel on Apr 09, 2008 09:34 PM Permalink
islam means freedom liberation....from worshipping false gods, dogmas, superstition. When u submit yourself to God, you are free from being slaves of your own evil desires.
RE:evil religions
by Ali boy on Apr 09, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
You forgot it is Slavery But to One Allah(God,Parmatma,Elohim)!! and denying any submission to earthly creatures or submitting onself to organs,Mon*keys,ele*phants and what not.
