Discussion Board
Watch this board

Total 568 messages Pages    <<  < Newer  | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10   Older >   >>
Why only humanbeings worship????
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 10:11 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

With over two million known species, the Kingdom Animalia is the largest grouping in classification of living things. Its members are divided into approximately 30 phyla. Over 95 percent of animal species are invertebrates (without back bones). Invertebrates include a vast array of varied organisms in many different phyla, from sponges to insects. It is believed that as many as 10 million species may still await discovery. Vertebrates form part of the Phylum Chordata. Although they total only about 45000 species, they include the largest and most familiar members of the animal kingdom, and also human beings.

However the "most merciful creator" did not send any messenger for the other animals. What would be their fate in the life here-after?

Can any religious person enlighten me?????

    Forward  |  Report abuse
RE:Why only humanbeings worship????
by Truth hurts on Apr 09, 2008 10:17 PM  Permalink
Yes I can ite becuase GOD things all kafirs should be killed and since animals do not think of any god they are kafirs.I only feel bad for P@RK

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator. | Hide replies
Message deleted by moderator
RE:Lingam & Yoni
by prakash on Apr 09, 2008 10:14 PM  Permalink
thanx for enlightening!! dear momin

lingam means symbol, in sankrit!! not a sexual organ..oops how can i expect a muslim to know that....

let me accept the followers of tantra do think lingam means sexual organ, but it is not mainstream Hinduism, most of the Hidnus follow Vedas, so Shiva lingam means symbol of Lord Shiva, can you desribe the form of shiva linga , nope it is not a circle, it is not a square..it is a form beyond your comprehension, a undecribable symbol to undescribable GOD ( if he exists)...

hope it helps, dear moahmemd or hesus..

let me add , what caused your creation, not those linga yoni, think abt it , it is better to pray to those organs which cause you, than to ALLh who comamnds moahmemd to marry a 6 year old ayesha..what do you think..

any more doubts plz do post..

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
Message deleted by moderator
RE:RE:RE:Lingam & Yoni
by prakash on Apr 09, 2008 10:32 PM  Permalink
in Hinduism , GOD has to be ralised, for every Hindu it is a personal journey to find the unknown, NOT to follow teachings of warmonger,terrorist peadophile murderer or NOT to follow some old books..hope this helps dear mohammed

start your spiritual journey here and now, STOP following B$ retards like maha mad!!

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:RE:RE:Lingam & Yoni
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 09, 2008 10:43 PM  Permalink
WHAT IS SHIVA LINGAM ?? PLEASE KNOW THE TRUTH

lingum is sanskrit for emblem/symbol. shiv lingum means the sacred mark of shiva.
The full word runs as "Jyothirlingam" means the Lingam in the form of jyothi, i.e. the flame.
If you see any candle burning, the flame gets an oval-cylyndrical shape and Shiva or Mahakaal could not be given any face and the people started making the shape of the "jyothi" or the light.

Over the years, invaders and non-Hindus converted the same and used it for their advantage and also many Hindus are to blame for this, as they have failed effectively in countering this propaganda.

PS Please dont think that lingum in this case means sex organ


   Forward   |   Report abuse
Ungrateful Musalmaans in India.
by Vish on Apr 09, 2008 10:05 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

How ignorant Musalmaans of India are! How easily these fools forget they're same group who asked and created Pakistan. How ungrateful these idiots to Hindus for letting them in India while Pakis killed or kicked out all Hindus! How foolish these idiots are not to read the news above to see most killed as Muhajirs ( Musalmaans from India) on the streets of Karachi.

And they keep on singing praise of Animal culture of foreigners who enslaved them and converted them by killing, maiming and raping.

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
RE:Ungrateful Musalmaans in India.
by Vikram A on Apr 09, 2008 10:32 PM  Permalink
Yes, cos they did not have right to stay in India after demanding a seperate state, its not late, u can still leave to ur porkiland

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Ungrateful Musalmaans in India.
by Vish on Apr 09, 2008 10:09 PM  Permalink
Do you know what partition means?

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
RE:RE:Ungrateful Musalmaans in India.
by Anand Jishu on Apr 09, 2008 10:19 PM  Permalink
yes,mr. salim, the indian muslims should be thankful to whatever god they worship that they are not being slaughtered the way hindus were butchered by the islamic invadors every day for seven hundred years. if the holy mohammedans had not come to india, india would have become one of the strongest and richest countries in the world.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Ungrateful Musalmaans in India.
by BaBu Raj on Apr 09, 2008 10:50 PM  Permalink
there are many invadors other than muslim, invades Hindu rules...... The protugeas...British... so, just find out wht is wrong with your self, everybody invades you.....

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
Coloning in ancieny india
by Vidwan Singh on Apr 09, 2008 10:04 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

O fool, you prople will ever remain fools talking of your ancients who never were such. You always sayPITRAM SULTAN BOO, and now you are wirthless. Whatever is found in western world you claim it for your ancients. What a nonsence. Read history of earth, history of mankind and Hisory of Science. Your ancestors were much backward even during the Stone age that prevailed here upto 5kyears ago or so. Read my Science paper in Current Science 10thmarch08. It will open yor eyes.Remove colored glasses & dont spread your illetracy!

    Forward  |  Report abuse
RE:Coloning in ancieny india
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 10:08 PM  Permalink
When some one can believe in life-here after and a Paradise stocked with abundant supply of "wine, woman, water, fruits, etc" why I can't believe that "cloning" was also prevalent in ancient India??????

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 09:53 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The saint Ved Vyasa divided one fetus into 101 off-springs (The Kauravas - 100 sons and 1 daughter).

Mr. Balaord, so even cloning was prevalent in ancient India.

And of course not to speak of IVF (King Rama and his 2 brothers were born out of IVF technology) and we had even ICBMs and anti-ICBMS (Pasupatha astra and Brahma astra), air crafts (Pushpaka vimana), etc. The technology in anient India was nothing lesser than what the modern world has!!!!

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
RE:Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 10:02 PM  Permalink
Mr. Balaord will understand that. It is not for you.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by Anand Jishu on Apr 09, 2008 10:03 PM  Permalink
please,bothering about a crazy mindset may be a risky proposition !!

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 10:01 PM  Permalink
How can I deny when our Prophet himself asked his followers to learn even from the pagan arab war prisoners?
He set a great example that secular science that deals with earthly issues are to be found every where and we should embrace it.
He traded their life for science - this happened 1400 years ago in the battle of Badr.

This is why islam was able to absorb science from india,china and greek and provided a platform for the flourishing of modern science.
George Sarton calls Islam the indispensable bridge which connected the world.
You can always see that my messeage never derided or under estimated the contribution from India.It is just that some times they make some unfounded claims and exaggerate a bit.



   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 10:06 PM  Permalink
There is a huge difference though.islam was able to break the philosophiocal boundries that prevented people from critically examining nature and which made people revere them as GODS.
This had a profound impact on the world of science-not to mention the importance of exploring nature's properties and there by attesting in the faith of GOD

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by Anand Jishu on Apr 09, 2008 10:09 PM  Permalink
long before mohammed and his sword culture arrived in arabia, india, persia, the "pagan" arabians, the greeks had very harmonious interaction on both business and cultural fronts. islam never did anything new, islam never created any new philosophy except that murder,rape and loot in the name of moon god allah (by the way allah was the main god of mecca thousand years before the great person mohammed arrived) are all very holy, pious and merciful acts.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:RE:Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 10:15 PM  Permalink
If you are interested in academic references,I can give atleast 100 if you dont feel unnecessarily overwhelmed

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:RE:Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by on Apr 09, 2008 10:44 PM  Permalink
I WOULD LIKE TO TELL ALL MUSLIMS BROTHERS AND SANE HINDU BROTHERS NOT TO INVOLVE IN REDIFF AS IT IS ALREADY OCCUPIED BY RSS PEOPLE.HOW CAN A PERSON WHO FOLLOWS ISLAM(ROOT WORD CAME FROM SALAM MEANING PEACE) KILL ANY INNOCENT WHEN IT IS ALREADY MENTIONED IN QURAN THAT IF ANY ONE KILLS AN INNOCENT IT IS AS IF HE/SHE HAS KILLED ENTIRE HUMANITY AND IF ANYBODY SAVE ANY PERSON IT IS AS IF HE/SHE HAS SAVED THE WHOLE HUMANITY.MY REPLY TO THOSE WHO SAY THAT THERE ARE 24 VERSES REGARDING KILLING THE KAFIR(NON MUSLIM IN ARABIC).WE HAVE TO READ THOSE VERSES WITH THE CONTEXT NOT TO READ THOSE WITHOUT CONTEXT.THOSE VERSES WERE REVEALED DURING THE TIME OF WAR.AND THERE ARE SO MANY VERSES IN GITA FOR KILLING BUT IF WE READ IN CONTEXT IT IS DURING THE WAR.AND MY REPLY TO ALL SANE PEOPLE BE IT MUSLIMS OR NON MUSLIMS PLEASE THINK THAT Y MUSLIMS DID NOT KILL ALL THE NON MUSLIMS IN INDIA WHEN THEY ALMOST RULED FOR 1000 YEARS.AND WHY DON'T PPL THINK THAT EVEN IF WE CONSIDER THE PRESENT POPULATION OF INDIAN, PAKISTANI AND BANGLADESHI MUSLIMS, THEN WE WILL FIND THAT MUSLIMS ARE STILL IN MINORITY.MUSLIMS DID NOT GO FOR ANY WAR IN INDONESIA,MALAYSIA AND IN MANY COUNTRIES IN AFRICA.MY REQUEST TO ALL PPL IS TO READ QURAN(NOT FROM ANY UNISLAMIC WEBSITE) BUT FROM AUTHENTIC QURAN AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET OR LIBRARY FOR EXAMPLE TRANSLATION BY PICKETHALL.CUZ QURAN IS THE SOURCE SO BETTER READ SOURCE.MUSLIMS CAN BE GOOD OR BAD LIKE ANY OTHER PPL BUT THE SOURCE IS QURAN SO BETTER READ IT.THANKS TO ALL WHO READ

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:RE:Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 10:14 PM  Permalink
The UK-s channel4 -The leading televsion channel of UK say

channel4.com/science/microsites/S/science/society/islamicscience.html

...Until recently, the era has been glossed over by historians who happily leapt from the fall of the Roman Empire straight to the Renaissance. But it is time for the West to recognize its debt to those Islamic scientists of the past, who forged ahead while Europe stagnated...

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
Message deleted by moderator
RE:Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by redifSucks on Apr 09, 2008 10:08 PM  Permalink


you bloody hell, whenever there is news about bombing in Pakistan, you come here to advocate Islam? first educate your own muslim people not to kill each other, then teach others.

Dont you have even a little bit of shame?



   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 10:11 PM  Permalink
Look at all the messages - why a riot in pakistan has to bring the issue of Islam here?


   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Cloning was also prevalent in ancient India.
by redifSucks on Apr 09, 2008 10:23 PM  Permalink

Because common people all over the world have got the impression that your religion must be the root cause of all these killings and bombings, since most of the terrorist bombing happens to involve muslims.



   Forward   |   Report abuse
no islam
by Anand Jishu on Apr 09, 2008 09:52 PM  Permalink 

if there were no islam, the middle east and the whole of south east asia would have been the most beautiful paradise on earth. islam any idiot practicing this dreadful cult should summarily be banished from this part of the world and of course from the entire earth.

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator. | Hide replies
RE:bloody islam
by nilesh on Apr 09, 2008 09:55 PM  Permalink
dont worry..we muslims are much populated..when time will come india will become pakistan..no more hindu all non vegterian will live ... Inshaah Allah

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
Message deleted by moderator
RE:bloody islam
by PKN on Apr 09, 2008 09:59 PM  Permalink
If wishes were horses beggars will ride!
Go on dreaming it is free atleast till Chidambaram decides to put a service tax on it !

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:bloody islam
by cooldudelov on Apr 09, 2008 09:59 PM  Permalink
Is nilesh Muslim name

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
Message deleted by moderator
Message deleted by moderator. | Hide replies
RE:muslim boy
by kalyan ram on Apr 09, 2008 09:47 PM  Permalink
happiness should be spiritual happiness.....hinduism and budhism can give spiritual happiness.....even americans are also recognising this....islam and christianity only produced material happiness......what is the use of material happines without spiritual happiness?.....more money means more headaches....hindusim and budhism preserved nature and worshipped them while islam and christianity are destroying nature with material happiness....

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
RE:muslim boy
by nilesh on Apr 09, 2008 09:49 PM  Permalink
if hindu is spiritual happiness..y do u kill animals (bali) ??

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
Message deleted by moderator
Message deleted by moderator
RE:muslim boy
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 09:52 PM  Permalink
I am a Muslim - and dont talk rubbish.
Learn some history - India made a great deal of scientific contributions to the world.Muslims in the quest for knowledge due to the thrust given by Islam , adopted it,refined it to a great extent and took many unknown science buried in India and showed to the world.The so called stupid west simply took credit for every thing when they colonized the lands.


   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:muslim boy
by Vikram A on Apr 09, 2008 10:50 PM  Permalink
Ur a real fool , did u go to mad madarassa where they brain wash idiots like u

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
Message deleted by moderator
Message deleted by moderator
Message deleted by moderator
RE:RE:muslim boy
by nilesh on Apr 09, 2008 09:51 PM  Permalink
hindu doesnt have guts to kill muslim re...and christains in iraq are to support iraqi people from terrorism..not to fight..

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:RE:muslim boy
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 09:55 PM  Permalink
Copernicus Revolution - Touted by the secular west as the gigantic leap from religious dogmaticism into enlightment is after all found to be a shameless plagiarism by the Nicolus copernicus.

and from whom he stole it?Nasirudin al Tusi and Ibn Shatir the great medival islamic scientists.what is striking is,he was not just influenced by them rather,he had copied their works verbatim and shamelessly took credit for centuries.

In academic cricles copernicus is already trashed for his plagiarism and the new book The Ancient Roots of Modern Science by Dick Teresi has brought this into public forum. A review of this book is here

Institue for Oreintal study - Thane (This is actually a Hindutuva website,i gave this because something as fundamentally challenging as this would require a website favorable to them )

orientalthane.com/science/news_2004_04_23.htm


   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:RE:muslim boy
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 09:54 PM  Permalink
Kidn sir and dont talk rubbish!!
Learn some history - India made a great deal of scientific contributions to the world.Muslims in the quest for knowledge due to the thrust given by Islam , adopted it,refined it to a great extent and took many unknown science buried in India and showed to the world.The so called stupid west simply took credit for every thing when they colonized the lands

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
Message deleted by moderator
Lord Meghnad Desai on God
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 09:41 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Of course I ask myself why superstition is so widespread and why 99.99% of people believe in some form of God. Because of uncertainty and death, people cannot cope with the absoluteness of non-existence. So they invented an after-life and gods because it is useful. I have no doubt thatthis is the only life. I have and I%u2019d better make the best out of it. - Lord Meghand Desai (Lord Desai is not correct on the percentage - about 15% of world's population are now irreligious atheists - JGN)

    Forward  |  Report abuse
RE:Lord Meghnad Desai on God
by PKN on Apr 09, 2008 09:50 PM  Permalink
JGN since you are only atheist on this forum can you be kind enough to define what atheism is ?

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Lord Meghnad Desai on God
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 09:56 PM  Permalink
Pl visit the web of "Positive Atheism" Also download and read "The Necessity of Atheism" by Dr. D.M. Brooks available at Project Gutenberg. Also "Gods, Demons and Sprits" by the lated Dr. A.T. Kovoor (this is available from Indian Atheist against payment as copy right has not yet expired). There are many other websites. I cannot explain the same in the time and space available here. In any case we do not believe in any"supreme creator" and such notions.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Lord Meghnad Desai on God
by asad syed on Apr 09, 2008 10:07 PM  Permalink
JGN
so, finally, you revealed source of your valualbe knowledge and wisdom treasure...
but please don't refer " your comments" to " positive atheism" because the moment you start puting your argument by hurting other people's feelings and posting irrelevant data with forged lies, it becomes negative..and that what you always do in all your comments...either through mocking or through serious accusations.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Lord Meghnad Desai on God
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 10:15 PM  Permalink
Mr.asad syed, did you think that I am born with knowledge about the universe like Abhimanyu learning how to penetrate "Chakravyuha"?

One can gain knowledge only by reading books and information from other sources. I have read dozens of books but I can't quote all of them here.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Total 568 messages Pages:    <<  < Newer  | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10   Older >   >>
Write a message