RE:who is this dumba1s named BALORD?????????
by balaord on Apr 10, 2008 01:15 AM Permalink
Just any news in rediff denigrates into mud slinging against Muslims,Islam and their history.This is a predicament, but I am turning this into an opputunity to explain some historical facts.
RE:RE:who is this dumba1s named BALORD?????????
by Mo Pirate on Apr 10, 2008 01:31 AM Permalink
As per the ultimate book the moon is setting in a muddy pond. Why the hue and cry about mud slinging? The book and alluh came from muddy pond.
RE:truth
by haresh jagtiani on Apr 10, 2008 12:53 AM Permalink
you are the most sickest person and the mostest sinner alive on this earth and the mother earth does not need the vermin like you.
This is a historical lie.Jews coexisted with Muslims all along before the advent of Israel. When europe presecuted the jews found refuge only in ottaman turkey When jews were mocked upon by the christians ,it is the Islamic spain which embraced them For details
Read the book wriiten by world renowned scholor Maria Rosa Menocal -She is Sterling Professor of the Humanities at Yale University and also the Director of the Whitney Humanities Center
who is María Rosa Menocal? yale.edu/opa/v34.n15/story4.html
The name of book is The Ornament of the World: How Muslims, Jews, and Christians Created a Culture of Tolerance in Medieval Spain
The review of the Book is here in Univeristy of Pennsilvania Press
A Forgotten Heritage upenn.edu/pennpress/book/1296.html
RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by balaord on Apr 10, 2008 01:20 AM Permalink
If you dont like reading these books atleast you can check this History channel documentary page
RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by Mo Pirate on Apr 10, 2008 01:10 AM Permalink
Never Muslums never persecuted Jews. Alluh tells Muslums to respect jews through the book which was brought from the moon by great astronaut Momaaad.
RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by balaord on Apr 10, 2008 12:37 AM Permalink
The universally accepted ideals which you guys seems to be so associating with West are actually influenced by Islam.Read Two Time Pulitzer Prize winning author's ground breaking New Book God's Crucible-Islam and the Making of Europe-This book explains how Muslim spain's legacy of tolerance and rich heritage of scientific accomplishments shaped Europe.
This is one of Washington Post's publication's review of the book
RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by balaord on Apr 10, 2008 12:37 AM Permalink
who is Historian David Levering Lewis? Once president of the Society of American Historians and Two time Pulitzer prize winning author and currently a professor of history in Newyork univeristy Link silverdialogues.fas.nyu.edu/page/David_Levering_Lewis
Speech on University of Cambridge admin.cam.ac.uk/news/dp/2008031004
RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by Lotan Potan on Apr 10, 2008 12:41 AM Permalink
Dude dont talk about the jews, jews are the chosen people of God and Israel is their promised land. Jews have contributed so much to mankind entire humanity is indebted to them. And these noble people went throught the suffering of holocaust and still came out strong and undefeated. God bless the Jews, the chosen people of God and God blessed the promised land Israel.
RE:RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by balaord on Apr 10, 2008 12:44 AM Permalink
GOD created all the races equal.No is better than the other except by piety.Nobel is a recent phenomena and doesnt reflect the actual contribution of science.You may well be aware that Nobel doesnt even have a prize for mathematics. By the way Science didint start with Nobel,the foundations of modern science were laid centuries ago.
RE:RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by balaord on Apr 10, 2008 12:47 AM Permalink
Are you indebted to the scientific method through which modern science made a gigantic leap?If yes Read this
jackklaff.com/hos.htm who is Jack Klaff He is professor of the public understanding of science at a Brussels
I also want to add a point here the contributions of Alhazen as explained by Kack is true is true-Hoe ever he author attributes that to Aristotitle - to bring His European connection. The truth is Alhazen is Muslim theologian and said he explored nature as per Quranic injunctions and thats what lead him to these profound truths.
RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by Lotan Potan on Apr 10, 2008 12:57 AM Permalink
If God created all people equal why did he make different colors, black, white brown, why not all equal? Why did he make some people physically strong and some poeple weak? Why not all equal? Why did he give the gift of high IQ and intellectual prowess to only a select few and not to others? Why not all equal?
Try to realize the truth brother? All re not equal, God did make differences in this world. God did make Blacks and Whites different and unequal, HE HAD THE CHOICE TO MAKE ALL EQUAL AND SAME, HE DID NOT.
RE:RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by Lotan Potan on Apr 10, 2008 12:58 AM Permalink
And yes God did choose the Jews, and God promised them the land of Israel.
RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by balaord on Apr 10, 2008 01:04 AM Permalink
It depends on how you measure equality.I see the difference is color and appearance as not something that is inferior or superioe to each other.Ofcourse thats how we generally tend to incline towards unless we belive that GOD created these differences to rather test us and see how we treat each other. I know you hate Quran and Muslims, but I can only asnwer this from an Quranic perspective and this is the verse that deals with this
O people!! We have created you from a single male and female, and made you into nations and tribes that you may know each other. Truly, the most honored of you in the sight of God is the one the most righteous toward you-Quran 49:13
Abbe chu.... Men became black and white becos of the geographical conditions they lived in..which affected their genes. And they are weak n strong based on how n what they eat, whats their lifestyle etc. GOD didnt sit to make each human being.
RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by Harinder Pal Singh on Apr 10, 2008 01:01 AM Permalink
Poor Jews are the at the whipping end all the time. I guess their only crime was that they were born earlier than many of the currant religions of mankind. New religions in order to become manifest probably had to boot out the old religions. This is in contrast to INDIA where all co exist happily old new and the future. Now days the new religions fight amongst themselves for superiority.
Strange are the ways of GOD. He alone understand all this macabre drama of killing which goes around on planet these days in his name. His heart is also not toucheg by the suffering of his creations. I would however like to protect any innocent Jew if I had the power to do it. They have had much more than their share of genocides inflicted on them as a group. They should no more be retributed for their ancestors actions.
RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by Faceless Indian on Apr 10, 2008 02:16 AM Permalink
POOR JEWS ? Interact with one on a daily basis for a month and then say poor jews..... literally and conceptually.
RE:Did Muslims kill jews??
by Harinder Pal Singh on Apr 10, 2008 07:15 AM Permalink
Yes POOR GUYS. Have any of your ancestors been thru gas chambers or been driven out of there home time and again. It is among the oldest religion of the world and has given the best thinkers world has ever seen like Einstien, Heisenberg etc . Without them the world would have been no where.
RE:The changing face of Europe
by JGN on Apr 10, 2008 12:37 AM Permalink
The Islamic fundamentalim reared its ugly head after the Revolution ( ? ) in Iran lead by the late A. Khomeni. Till then the Muslims the world over were trying to integrate with rest of the society. I do not think there were any animosity towards the muslims till about 30 years back.
The genie is out of the bottle now and it require considerable time and efforts to put that back into the bottle.
The enlightened Muslims themselves have to come forward and make their co-religionists understand the situation. If anybody else tell them, they will feel offended.
Btw Mr. Balaord, do you have any idea what the "Islamic Utopia" is?? Even TV was banned in Afghanistan under the Taliban rule! Do you want to live under such conditions?
RE:The changing face of Europe
by asad syed on Apr 10, 2008 12:48 AM Permalink
JGN, Whats are you so eager to show television to Afghani peoples? you wanna show almost naked Britney spears dance albums? or shaving cream add for men with semi nude models having sensual expressions on face? or Mallika sherwat of India kissing deep on screen and making statment in interviews about her levity??? You ever heard of " all nude in one bathroom?" ...thats what you want to happen..since you have crossed all the ethical and moral limits in the name of "personal freedom" and " democracy"...and you don't want to be looked down upon by the people who are not yet involved in such nasty things...so you want to strip them naked too...so that you won't be alone... besides..peoples choices differ as per their culture,geography, religion and race...who are you to decide which people should get what? just because you have red some books on history and made your own "half baked smart ass analysis" as religion is the problem for all the calamities on this earth, makes you an authority on deciding peoples destiny and choice of living? everywhere you are mentioning about ppl from Afghanistan, africa, europe etc etc..have you visited these places and asked every individual what they want? What if the public in Afghanistan is supporting the Ban on TV serials? O self appointed messiah for humanity...take a break...get some fresh air...I guess you are facing " intellectual indigestion Problem"...you are reading too much...dont stress yourself buddy...
RE:Pakistan Se Zinda Bhag
by MNS on Apr 10, 2008 01:18 AM Permalink
Thats tru in london i meet a driver he said he is afraid to go back to islamabad...
RE:Pakistan Se Zinda Bhag
by inga vaadi on Apr 10, 2008 12:11 AM Permalink
long time ago in galaxy far far away i saw one girl. i loved her very much. but she loved him too much. so i decided
The people who attacked the rally werent lawyers. They were Mush's men. He is creating this turmoil to keep pakistan unstable and also to get some sympathy in meantime by talking abt peace n all
