Prompted by political compulsions, M Karunanidhi has at last relented in a damage correction action by postponing the execution of the Hogenakal project. Had he refrained from his earlier vitriolic outburst, the disruption of normal life by unruly mob attacks, both in Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, could have been averted. This is not the first time that Karunanidhi is making injudicious outbursts that tend to arouse mob fury and violence that disturbs normal life.
Not long ago, in a viciously worded attack on a Supreme Court ruling on reservation, he came out with a volatile outburst and even organised a state-wide bundh when he himself was heading a state government. Again, a couple of months ago, when the Sethusamudram issue cropped up, apart from questioning the very existence of Rama, he made a disparaging and totally unwarranted remark that Rama was a drunkard. When will these people refrain from making volatile speeches ?
RE:The so-called secularists(Cong DMK CPI RJD..) must be taught HOW to respect the Hindu sentiments.
by randy on Apr 07, 2008 05:23 PM Permalink
As for as bandh for reservation is concerned it is the right thing to do, if we dont express our needs severely we won't get anything. Take examples of Gujjars of Rajasthan they are truly nomadic people they were ensured that they will be given ST status but were not given when BJP came to power leading to violence. We must take the bandh positively as a surprise holiday and enjoy it. The Karnataka govts never accept Supreme court rulings they never release water on time even the former chief minister was summoned by supreme court for not supplying water as per tribunals ruling . I'm surprised why no one is condemning Karnataka govt, politicians and central government???
RE:RE:The so-called secularists(Cong DMK CPI RJD..) must be taught HOW to respect the Hindu sentiments.
by truthandonlytruth on Apr 07, 2008 06:33 PM Permalink
As u had mentioned "As for as bandh for reservation is concerned it is the right thing to do", a person from karnataka can also assume the same sentence. In the case of Justic Lahoti's (Supreme Court's) observation that private and unaided colleges need not impose reservation, TN opposed the move and so there was a bandh. What is the difference between Ur state and Karnataka when it comes to not obeying SC order? Dont message like a cheap tamilian...
RE:The so-called secularists(Cong DMK CPI RJD..) must be taught HOW to respect the Hindu sentiments.
by randy on Apr 07, 2008 05:32 PM Permalink
May be Karuna is not so learned as other ploitician, Jaya is the worst and cheap politician as most of them in TN will know her famous tea party, her flamboyant wedding!!!! many to add. I wont say Karuna is not corrupt but he is one of the best politicians helped in groth of Chennai, his team made many industries likr Hyundai, Ford, Motorola, Nokia, Dell, Saint Gobain and many others to come to TN and they have contributed to nation also. TN is the only state which as grown with regional political parties. Other states like Karnataka, AP, Maharashtra will be nowhere if not for Congress. So we salute Karuna for his golden rule!!!
RE:RE:The so-called secularists(Cong DMK CPI RJD..) must be taught HOW to respect the Hindu sentiments.
by truthandonlytruth on Apr 07, 2008 06:40 PM Permalink
u can better post all the above in Murasoli, your dear leader's mouth piece. No wonder that non-tamilians are right in sensing the stigma of a cheap tamilian like you. 1. Corruption in Agriculture funds ( Sarkariya Commission 2. Killing of students in Annamalai universoty who protested against award of Ph.D degree to Karuna 3. Killing people in St Joseph's college , Trichy when people were against the non-hindi movement. 4. Saying a categorical no to start the Sony facility in the year 1992. 5. Institutionalising corruption the state. 6. Wasting tax payers' money in the name of free television sets. 7. emotionally evoking emotional fools ( like you ) of TN everytime. These are some of his contrbutions 8. Droppiong the cases against those involved in EPRLF leader Padmanabha's murder at broad day light in Chennai.
RE:The so-called secularists(Cong DMK CPI RJD..) must be taught HOW to respect the Hindu sentiments.
by Sriram Rags on Apr 07, 2008 07:41 PM Permalink
Please not that the industries are not without commision. Though he do not get the commision directly, if you see all the service centres (hyundai, ford and nokia) are owned by DMK family members are benami. This is another scientific corruption by Karunanidhi
RE:The so-called secularists(Cong DMK CPI RJD..) must be taught HOW to respect the Hindu sentiments.
by Sriram Rags on Apr 07, 2008 04:42 PM Permalink
They wont as long as they know they dont have the ability to rule this state, but know how to sustain as CM, by invoking the emotions of the people. Very cheap. Whoever in TN utters the sentence "For the sake of Tamils" are all cheats.
RE:The so-called secularists(Cong DMK CPI RJD..) must be taught HOW to respect the Hindu sentiments.
by truthandonlytruth on Apr 07, 2008 06:29 PM Permalink
And whoever gives into the sentence "For the Sake of Tamils" is an Insane Emotional Fool"
RE:The so-called secularists(Cong DMK CPI RJD..) must be taught HOW to respect the Hindu sentiments.
by randy on Apr 07, 2008 05:17 PM Permalink
my home town is hosur, the most affected people during any TN-Karnataka problem is people like us living in border area. No bus will run and people commuting daily to B'lore suffer a lot. So in one way CM's decision to put Hogennakal project on hold temporarily is a good decision. Karnataka govt supplies Cauvery water to Bangalore and most parts of Karnataka, they should also share the natural resource with us also the major onus is on Central govt to ensure they do it. So it is the Central govt to be blamed not the state government
Karunanidhi is not a fool, that he will listen to Congress high command. He is such a respectable politician with so much patience, good will for other states, i wish what could one do if he or she was in his place. This veteran politician is still capable of taking decision himself, who can give him suggestion. Even at this age, he is so versatile, energetic that even youths can not reach his feet even. I have never seen in my life such a good politician who had made or taken any decision that only few can take. Today, Karnataka is a peace state because of leaders like Karunanidhi. DMK will rule another 30 years if it had leaders like MK. I pray for his long tenure.
RE:Good show
by Sun on Apr 07, 2008 05:06 PM Permalink
LOL. A DMK symapthiser or are from some other country??? everybody living in TN now know the true situation. Heavy unprecedented power cuts, goondaism with state support,etc.
RE:Good show
by a g on Apr 07, 2008 04:51 PM Permalink
Sharmilee, its a pity that people like you still believe in such rogues. You are using adjectives like versatile, energetic...come on... hes anything other than the way you describe him. These adjectives just don't suit politicians of his clan. Please read newspaper readily...keep yourself abreast with the latest happenings....verify history of these rogues and you will feel sorry for having had such opinion of him.
RE:Good show
by Sesh on Apr 07, 2008 04:44 PM Permalink
@sharmilee,
Karunanidhi is a double faced tyrant...
It is a known fact that goondas and illeterates flourish under his rule...
If DMK rules another 30 years (I am not sure of it lasting another 5 year term!!!), it would mean that Tamil Nadu has become a separate country!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:Good show
by randy on Apr 07, 2008 05:09 PM Permalink
Goondas are always there only thing is during AIADMK rule goondas belonging to that party will flourish. It is the same in all states ruling parties crush goondas of other party by helping their own to grow
RE:RE:Good show
by Pappu on Apr 07, 2008 04:37 PM Permalink
sharmilee, if DMK will rule another 30 yrs then situtation will be same like BIHAR AND WEST BANGAL.
use your brain iff you have otherwise you can drink shankpuschi which is good for brin
He has worked very sincerely and hard for the sake of his people.He is very simple and honest.Has not involved in any corruptions no matter in any sector.True politician of India and speaks only the truth.
RE:Karunanidhi-a true leader
by a g on Apr 07, 2008 04:53 PM Permalink
Its a pity that people like you still believe in such rogues. You are using adjectives like simple, honest...come on... hes anything other than the way you describe him. These adjectives just don't suit politicians of his clan. Please read newspaper, watch news...keep yourself abreast with the latest happenings....verify history of these rogues and you will feel sorry for having had such opinion of him.
RE:Karunanidhi-a true leader
by krishnan venkataraman on Apr 07, 2008 05:10 PM Permalink
Asif, you are drunk with the rotten tasmac hooch. Your brain lies between your legs.
RE:Karunanidhi-a true leader
by asif on Apr 07, 2008 05:17 PM Permalink
I expected these kind of Replies only.Just wanted what kind of responses people wanna give on Karanunadhi.Even the CM himself cannot believe what is said here and will faint guys
RE:Karunanidhi-a true leader
by asif on Apr 07, 2008 05:27 PM Permalink
Just forgot to reply soon as i was busy in work... @krishnan venkat seems your brain lies in what you told to believe some people will still post these kind of statements really after seing his saguni politics tenure
RE:sun glass?
by Sun on Apr 07, 2008 05:09 PM Permalink
Yellow because some stupid astrologer told him to. He is a secret believer. Even now he visited a Golden Temple amidst great secrecy.
RE:sun glass?
by ragupathy murugesan on Apr 07, 2008 04:22 PM Permalink
He has problem in eyes so he wears glasses. As for his colour and shawl is concerned everyone has liking to a brand or colour it is simply like that.
Karunanidhi wants to help his ally-criminals (Congress), and that is why he has decided to fool the public TEMPORARILY and stop the activities for some time.. Never ever trust a criminal-minded and cunning politician like Karunanidhi..
This is going to become like a covery water issue. i think this issue will not be solved for the next 10 years. The statment given by Jayalalitha - AIADMK was correct.
Mr.Karunanidhiis not expected to be belligerent because his daughter is a karnataka resident and also because Mr.Karunanidhi's family by itself are immigrants from AP during the times of vijayanagar/nayaks.
RE:RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Apr 07, 2008 04:18 PM Permalink
Karunanidhi belongs to the IsaiVellalrar commnity, traditionally they are the musicians in the Hindu temples. This is a pure Tamil caste and not a Tamil cast of Telugu origin like the Naykas or Naidus. Similarly Jayalalitha belongs to the Iyengar community. This is also a pure Tamil caste. Some Iyengare may now speak Kannad oar Telugu as thoer mother tongue due to living in these lands ofr centuries. However even many of them are familiar with Tamil. The Iyengars are one of the few Tamil castes that is exremly proud of their Tamil heritage and take pride in speaking good Tamil. Jayalalitha's ancestral hometown is Sri Rangam in TamilNadu. Just becouse she was born in Karnataka and speaks Kannada does not make her a Kannadiga.
RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by sethu madhavan on Apr 07, 2008 04:53 PM Permalink
Mr.Kvalar, You are wrong. The castes mentioned by you above have no history before 17th century .A.D. Definitely, they are not connected in any manner to ancient dynasties of TN.Of jayalalitha we know they are related to Mysore royal wodeyars. The temple musicians of TN belonged to caste of odhuvars and maarars which still persis ts in some manner in kerala state. Pls be read what you write or you will end up in trouble.
RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Apr 07, 2008 05:15 PM Permalink
Jayalaitha identifies her self as an Iyengar, If she is an Iyengar she is a Tamilian. I personally do not har paternity May be her mother or Jayalalitha. So I cannot comment. However I still stand by what I previously stated Iyengars are Tamils and if Jayalalitha states that she is an Iyengar then she is Tamil. Teh work Isai Vellalar was coined recently as they are really not Vellalars in the true sense. they may have been traditionally been know by this name as Othuvars and maarars as in Jaffna they are known by this name and not called as Isai Vellalars. No weven the Pallar call themselves as Deveindra Kula Vellalar in India. This idea of many no Vellalar castes, calling themsleves as some form of Vellalars has become fashionable. What i meant is Karunanidhi does not belong to a Tamil caste of Telugu origin but to an old Tamil caste, It can be called odhuvar aor Isai Vellalar now but they are a Tamil cste and not a Tamil caste of Telugu origin.
RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by sethu madhavan on Apr 07, 2008 05:44 PM Permalink
Dear Mr.Kavalar, I have written so much on ancient period. You came to know that the singers were called maarars after i wrote the same. They assisted during yaagams and sribalis. The caste of iyengars is a derivative of word "ayyangaru" in telugu. It became popular during vijayanagar period. vaishnava brahmins of south were called nambis in previous period. By the time of vijayanagar they had become a very small minority. Nowadays they are not even 0.1% of the brahmins.Be advised that there was no regionalism and chauvinism before vijayanagar period in TN.The caste names you have quoted are hypothetical and does not have continuous history.should a partisan oulook and duplicity and oppurtunism spiral into voilence be assured that a nuclear attack and mass genocide is imminent.
RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by ashok shetty on Apr 07, 2008 04:37 PM Permalink
You are accepted fact that Rajnikant, Murali and some more Kannada born actors supported anti Karanataka stand in chennai are not Tamilians.
RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by randy on Apr 07, 2008 05:34 PM Permalink
If Rajni has not supported this time his next film will face the same fate of BABA . he knows it well people of TN will not forgive him if he had done it again
RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by sethu madhavan on Apr 08, 2008 11:28 AM Permalink
so what even if he supports the TN cause? It is strictly not permissible to take his help and support for anything and will not consider the same.He hails from a community that has been enemy to ancient tamil kings historically.
RE:RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by sethu madhavan on Apr 07, 2008 04:55 PM Permalink
Yes Rajnikanth is a kannada man.But nobody is bothered about what he says because we know he is an oppurtunist.
RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by Manjunath Srikantiah on Apr 07, 2008 07:11 PM Permalink
Ramanujacharya was shunted out of Tamil Nadu by the Shivites.He lived in the Hoysala kingdom.He converted many people during his stay(including the Jain King Bittideva to Vaishavism,after conversion,the king was known as Vishnuvardhana(the same king who has built the belur and halebid temples)).Ramanujacharya converted many others and they were the Iyengar's of the karnataka origin.Infact many of the Iyengar's of Karnataka have their origin in Karnataka rather than Tamil Nadu.There may be some people who migrated to Karnataka(including the one's who moved to the old mysore area during the anti brahmin movements of DMK during 60's/70s),but the majority of the iyengars living in the Hassan belt are of Karnataka origin and some of them in the Mandya region were again converted to Vaishnavism by Ramanujacharya when he was in that region.Melukote is a place where you can find many iyengars,where again Ramanujacharya's influence can be seen. To say that iyengar's belong only to Tamil Nadu is wrong.
RE:RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by sethu madhavan on Apr 07, 2008 07:27 PM Permalink
Yes.Ramanujacharya's parents migrated from AP. He was a telgu speaker.Those days entire peninsular India and srilanka was under cholas. He was driven out because he was preaching non-sense(like asking to give up worshipping lord sivan) and also attempting subversion against mighty chola empire.
RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by Edwin Navaratnam on Apr 08, 2008 05:05 PM Permalink
The Hebbar Iyengars speak a dialect of Tamil called Hebbar Tamil. This is amixture of Kannada Archaic Tamil and a little bit of Sanskrit. However they are fluent in Kannadaus this as medium to commnicate in public. There are many theories regarding their origin. On eis they are decended form converted Jains of Karnataka. The other that they are local Kanndigas introdused to Vaishnavaite philosophy by Ramanuja. The last is that they descendants of Ramamujans disciples form Tamil Nadu. They us boththe lunar and solar calendars to clebrate various festivals. THey use the solar calendar to clebrate certain festivals eg Nrushima Jyanti. This traditions coincides with the tradition of Srirangam temple Thi ssupports the argument that these people beig direct descendants of Ramanuja's disciples. If they were of Kannadiga descent then why do they speak this dialect of Tamil. instead of pure Kannada.
RE:Karunanidhi's oppurtunism!
by sethu madhavan on Apr 08, 2008 07:39 PM Permalink
we will not accept that such people are virtuous.An evil man can have any identity.
