Jayalaitha identifies her self as an Iyengar, If she is an Iyengar she is a Tamilian. I personally do not har paternity May be her mother or Jayalalitha. So I cannot comment. However I still stand by what I previously stated Iyengars are Tamils and if Jayalalitha states that she is an Iyengar then she is Tamil. Teh work Isai Vellalar was coined recently as they are really not Vellalars in the true sense. they may have been traditionally been know by this name as Othuvars and maarars as in Jaffna they are known by this name and not called as Isai Vellalars. No weven the Pallar call themselves as Deveindra Kula Vellalar in India. This idea of many no Vellalar castes, calling themsleves as some form of Vellalars has become fashionable. What i meant is Karunanidhi does not belong to a Tamil caste of Telugu origin but to an old Tamil caste, It can be called odhuvar aor Isai Vellalar now but they are a Tamil cste and not a Tamil caste of Telugu origin.