RE:What does 'Karunanidhi' mean?
by Ajit Menon on Sep 27, 2007 03:11 AM Permalink
Also if this is a larger question of principle, I dont know what the fight is about. It should certainly not be about Karunanidhi's belief. His beliefs are his own and he has a right for it (even though he should probably get this right while serving jail-time :)). So the valid point to fight would be that Karunanidhi hurt the sentiments of lot of people. Not that he holds a particular personal belief. A pluralistic and secular Indian society shouldnt have a difference of opinion regarding this.
RE:What does 'Karunanidhi' mean?
by John. P. Patrick on Sep 27, 2007 03:13 AM Permalink
Stay Cool Bro... Nothing much can't be done. Faith in GOD alone can enlighten you. I have a question. I have been taught Mahabaratha & Ramayana & as greatest epic written by Valmiki. Why not taught as History ????
Hope BJP is hearing and this would be implemented in some villages in Gujarat in History books.
Not to hurt any one, but to give you an insight, we will get focused and pray, instead of finding and digging deep your belief. You don't want to prove your spiritual sincerity to me in words... If your GOD knows you are sincere, thats enough bro... Lets get out and prove we are good citizens and loyal under the eyes of GOD.
Never heed to the media(Load of same Shit they put every day, thanks to AIADMK, got a chance to hook with BJP, is she loose, then back to Congress.... What a funny game all these politicians play.
Now BJP recalling 3 items(so called mistakes of Congress), election campaign started, good.
Now, BJP would come in would break Masjid's and Church, and Hindus would feel more please as a response to this Ram Sethu campaign. Man this is not a Twenty20 Match.. this is you and me, your kids and my kids gonna have hell in this very loved Secular, Democratic Country.
BJP is a nationalistic and patriotic party. Their allegiance wholy lies with India and not with Italy or Pakistan.
It has a dedicated cadre of workers. BJP's main strength lies in the support of the increasing educated middle class people. BJP will increase in strength as the middle class rises and also by penetration of BJP into rural areas.
It has led to rise of a new awakening.
BJP is a party committed to India's economic development and security of the nation.
They have clear vision for the country and have the capacity to curb terrorism with an Iron hand.
RE:Please
by r patil on Sep 27, 2007 02:48 AM Permalink
Why this same message is appering with different names like aquas,david and now jagdish.To know the answers refer to treads on articles on ram sethu you will get the answers.
This is the problem with India....press is so biased towards the upper caste BJP. This kind of propoganda will only bring backlash like DMK. There is not even a single article on the benefits of this project and benefits to Indians and tamilians. I had to go to different sites to learn those. In an earlier article one of the BJP guys were quoted "fishermen of tamilnadu will lose their culture because of this project ". What Audacity this idiot has to call a poor fisherman's poverty life as a culture that he wants them to suffer with..... This is a project that will give jobs and boom the economic downtrodden. You literate mass, dont derail development in the name of your god.
RE:Biased Rediff
by on Sep 27, 2007 02:54 AM Permalink
Please read the story "Ram Sethu: %u2018They have shoot-at-sight orders%u2019" before you call someone stupid. Which news report did you read to come with such a stupid conclusion. Time and time again many studies have proved this canal is not an economically viable project. You have a jaundiced view on this issue. You better refrain from posting...
RE:Biased Rediff
by Reuben on Sep 27, 2007 02:56 AM Permalink
I read that article and that is the article that had the quote I mentioned in my post.....Before you say I have a jaundiced view look at yourself. Do you know the other side? Do you know the powerful economic reasons that financial wizards like Manmohan Singh and Chidambaram are supporting? I would rather trust them rather than the stupid VHP..dirty safron clad BJP politicians....
RE:Biased Rediff
by r patil on Sep 27, 2007 03:04 AM Permalink
Ok reuben lets say the project is beneficial then why the government of india not declaring the detail input cost and the expected output to the genral public.They are many expertise available outside the government also ,why not give them chance to debate the pros and cons once the detail report is out.You should read indian express where a retired government on water resourses has asked the government to publish everthing to the public. Lets say the project is really beneficial but why majorities religious sentiments are purposly being hurted by DMK,is it that indian and tamilnadu government only cares for minority and not majority.So the govn is by the majorities for the minorities and not for the majorities.
RE:Biased Rediff
by r patil on Sep 27, 2007 02:56 AM Permalink
Reuben the entire new testament has bad mouthed jews hence jews were victims to anti semitic in all of europe for 2000 years which culminated in holocost.Even then government of israel which is a declared jew state supports and promotes christain holy places for revenue sake. This tamil nadu government can do a similar thing by promoting religious tourism which have a potential of attracting many pilgrimers ,which will give money in the states revenue as well help boost local and state employment.
RE:RE:RE:Biased Rediff
by Reuben on Sep 27, 2007 02:59 AM Permalink
Sure....I am all for historic temples and saving natural heritage. But this project is more than that....it seems like this bridge is more a hypothesis rather than reality. I trust ASI more than anyone else with conflict of interest.
This is the problem with India....press is so biased towards the upper caste BJP. This kind of propoganda will only bring backlash like DMK. There is not even a single article on the benefits of this project and benefits to Indians and tamilians. I had to go to different sites to learn those. In an earlier article one of the BJP guys were quoted "fishermen of tamilnadu will lose their culture because of this project ". What Audacity this idiot has to call a poor fisherman's poverty life as a culture that he wants them to suffer with..... This is a project that will give jobs and boom the economic downtrodden. You literate mass, dont derail development in the name of your god.
RE:Gandhi's last words
by sathish ganapathy on Sep 27, 2007 02:21 AM Permalink
grow up u stupid! find out y our country is lagging bcos of u religious fanatics , jus bcos of ur ego of not accepting truth and Rama is fictious , and for tat sake hampering the country's growth! btw, thats my real name u idiot!
RE:RE:Gandhi's last words
by r patil on Sep 27, 2007 02:27 AM Permalink
Ganapathy who is represted as an elephant head on a human body well that is surely a fiction after whome you are named.
RE:Gandhi's last words
by r patil on Sep 27, 2007 02:14 AM Permalink
No the fact is Gandhiji took Ram name in everything and not Otha,so you learn to digest that.It is the congress which takes credit for all good of gandhi,even indira gandhi thought of changing her surname to gandhi to get vote.So it is congress which own's very thing to gandhi that's why they are morally wrong to disbelieve in RAM whoes name was on gandhiji mouth and prayers all the time.
RE:Gandhi's last words
by sathish ganapathy on Sep 27, 2007 02:16 AM Permalink
I dont understand clearly, nyways wat it has got to do with some country's development project?
RE:Gandhi's last words
by r patil on Sep 27, 2007 02:24 AM Permalink
The sole reason why congress gets vote from hindus is that hindus associate congress with mahatma gandhi and gandhi surname is mesmerising to them,hence indra got her surname chanded to gandi,remove gandhi fron Rahul and sonia and then see how much votes they get. Hindus and not muslims were blind followers of gandhiji and not of nehru, because it was he and his religious thought which average hindus could relate to him and not the ultra mod secular nehru thoughts.Hence congress which does not waist any moment in taking credit of every thing good ganhiji did they are morally obliged to show some respect to gandhiji words(who always talked about ram rajya,remember raghupati raghava raja ram).
CHENNAI: The AIADMK supremo Jayalalithaa on Wednesday jumped into the Ram Sethu political war leading demonstrations across Tamil Nadu against the controversial remarks of Chief Minister M Karunanidhi, as she joined the BJP in demanding sacking of DMK ministers in the Centre.
The anti-Ram remarks continued to evoke strong reactions with BJP president Rajnath Singh wanting the UPA to disassociate itself from the UPA and sack the DMK ministers if Karunanidhi does not withdraw them.
Demanding the dismissal of the Karunanidhi government for hurting the sentiments on Hindus, the former chief minister, who had been camping at her Kodanadu estate in Nilgiris district for the past one week, led the demonstration at Udhagamandalam.
The Centre should dismiss the DMK government as it has "violated the Constitution by hurting the sentiments of Hindus," and remove DMK ministers from the Union Cabinet, she added.
AIADMK workers also staged demonstrations in Pondicherry and in New Delhi as its leaders stressed it was not against the Sethusamudram project and that its opposition was towards the alignment.
In Jalandhar, Congress leader M S Bitta asked people to burn effigies of Karunanidhi on the day of Dussehra.
"Statements of Karunanidhi against Lord Ram and the Ram Setu are attempts to spread religious terrorism,", he told reporters.
RE:We want Ram Rajya NOT Rome Rajya !!
by Chola King on Sep 27, 2007 12:21 AM Permalink
Ram defines our nation, our ancestry, our civilisation. Denying Ram is denying India. Gandhi stood firmly for Ram Rajya. He died with Ram's name on his lips. His samadhi in Delhi has only one inscription etched on it, He Ram. But Hindus are asked to provide proof of Rama's birthplace and the data of his bridge's construction plans.
Now they asked for proof of his existence. Next they may ask -- with this kind of Parliament it is quite possible -- to provide proof of who gave Bharat her name. Where are the records? And the ASI's poor director will file an affidavit: We do not have any 'scientifically' ascertainable records, only mythologies say this land's name is Bharat. Hence the name can be changed to any Nehru-Gandhi Clanistan, which will have proof authenticated by the New Delhi Municipal Corporation!
Mythology. The whole construct is a British anthropological revenge on us. We had a different tradition of recording events and writing history. The British and their cohorts taught that all that was mythology, a myth, and only the Western Christian world's methods are 'scientific'. Hence we adopted their standards, their calendar, their ways to greet the guests, their worldview became ours, and we discarded everything that we cherished, adopted their attire and weird uniforms (see our learned advocates sweating in black but still not complaining) to look modern and progressive.
Hence questioning Ram and Sita, humiliating ochre-robed sanyasins, converting ancient
