He don't know what his speaking. These people know how to blame others. They think very narrow. Nobody speaks about jesus exist or not other god exist or not. Why he spoke about hindu god only. I know this God will one day show him his place. God is there in different names. It may be by the name of allah, jesus, guru gobindsingh. Who has given these nosense people to speak about other religions gods. People of india please through these people out of polytics, india. The congress is cooly supporting them. Karunanidhi should apologize to the whole hindu community otherwise this will become a very big issue. Congress should also apologize for the incident otherwise they have to be ready for large consiquences.
The great indians fight against these raw minded people and show them place.
If a poor people speak about other religion then it is a crime and he will be in prision they why not for this big polytician becuase they have power. Don;t worry your power will go one day and the begger will also hate u one day.
RE:Karunanidhi The Danger Man for this mankind
by dinesh kumar on Sep 26, 2007 12:53 PM Permalink
The atrocious casteist brahminism that had crept into hinduism through centuries of manipulations by one class that used brahminical arguments to suffocate and subjugate a majority of the people was defeated and hinduism was saved.
the revolutionary movement of periyar was kept alive by the unparaleled leadership of karunanidhi.
were it not for that movement,vast numbers of so called lower castes would still not have been allowed into temples and would have joined other religions in bigger numbers.
periyar,annadurai and karunanidhi are the saviours of hinduism.
nobody has proved that ram did not exist. that's fine - but will anyone standup & prove that ram did exist ????? where are the bjp, rss, shivsenas & so called hindu fundamentalist ????? (hindus ke rakwala)
RE:what ?????
by Religious Scholar on Sep 26, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
How can those rascals prove???? Those rascals must have not read even one letter of the Gita, Ramayana, Mahabharatha or other vedic texts... they are here only to exploit the people's sentiments and make money and make lives comfortable for themselves... do u think they are bothered about other Hindus???? All bulllll Shiiiiiiittt!!!
RE:what ?????
by aniruddha Deshpande on Sep 26, 2007 01:10 PM Permalink
Ram Exists, Ram Does not exist, Ram existed few thousand years back, Ram'a existance is not a History but mythology....and so on. So many opinions and so much of an chaos. Can we debate on some issues which are more important than these. Important issue is "If some millions are having a faith in Ram, what does this faith is giving rise to? " If this faith makes them strong and determined to follow the Path of truth and believe in all the good qualities and inspires them for building a "Maryadashil" i.e. Selfcontrolled character into them; It is really good. Mere Existance of Ram is not important; important is the existance of ideologies of Ram. Ram or Krishna are the charactors which are not meant to be tested on scientific and physical sciences but they are more importantly to be tested by the principles , teachings and the messages given by these characters. If we try to follow these , Ram Exists even today. If we do not follow this, Ram never existed because his teachings and charishma can not be so weak that we forget these within a short span of few thousand years. As far as the bridge " RAMSETU" is concerned, the issue is bringing out "Demonic nature of Ravana" within us and suppressing "Godly characteristics of Ram" . So it makes us believe that "Ravana" is the truth and "Ram" is Myth in todays context. May be the demonic stance of destroying the natural-supernatural treasure of the Natures (Or Rama's) Special creation for a few thousand dollor
We do not require any proof or evidence about the existence of Ram. Since you and like minded people are saying about the non existence of Ram, then you have to prove your claim.
RE:what ?????
by ems nnn on Sep 26, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
Yes Asim. We believe that Lord Rama existed. If somebody wanna convince us the other way then they must prove that Lord Rama did not existed. Also I have a question ? Whatever there in history books do u believe??? There are mention of Adi Sankara's works in other works of people who existed before Adi Sankara. It is doubtful that the King Vikram of Avanti was the King Chandragupta 2 of Guptas. So that is the pathetic state of Indian history
RE:what ?????
by GN on Sep 26, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
to prove the existance of something which existed 10 thousand year back will be a herculian task. isn't it.
I dont like any religious campainers, belonging to any religion. Hinduism, Christianity, Islam. Everybody is interested to benefit themself from it not the public.
But questioning other religions and its existance is really shameful. Every religion has some myths unproven, which cannot be defined and proved by anybody.
RE:what ?????
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
and jay kay....u believe that prophet mohammed had split the moon in two...........or that christ bieng son of god did not know when adam and eve were placed on this earth.......??
RE:what ?????
by vikas on Sep 26, 2007 01:11 PM Permalink
Leave friend i think we need not to prove anything i front of peiople like jay kay. I think his father was mohd. or christan. dirty fellow
RE:what ?????
by arungopal agarwal on Sep 26, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
Yes, we can prove Ram, If you go historically, the history is available in script form only upto 1000 BC, but through stories/verbal communiation, it is proved that prior to history, Ram was in existence through his stories. If you take religiously,Yes, Ram is in every corner, everywhere, his importance/presence can be seen. If you want to see him with logic, he can be shown to you with logic too, for that you will have to make yourself first SUPATRA(develop) yourself. Ramsetu or any related things may be controversial for certain people creating hatred, but Ram is non controversial.
RE:RE:RE:what ?????
by yogi goli on Sep 26, 2007 12:56 PM Permalink
E man u are walking on earth that doesn't mean that u are GOD and u are just a man. You are correct now u understand Ram didn't walk on earth becuase he is all above the earth and watching u nonsense people. The thing which u can not see is GOD. Now u understand the meaning of GOD. Also tell karunanidhi and karat also those who don;t know what is mean by GOD. Tomorrow people will think that karunanidhi is god because these people will portrait like that. If u don;t know about other religion then please don't comment. It will hurt their sentiments.
RE:what ?????
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 12:48 PM Permalink
yes george......rig veda is full of details about how viman can be built..............they had technology at that time to separate hydrogen from water........
the vimans at that time were not supersonic jets like in our present modern age.........
most probably they were hydrogen filled aloons flying at the speeed of wind.......which explains why ram took 14 days to reach from Lanka to Ayodhya.......(consider the distance to be say 25000 km.....and divide it by average wind speed of 2 m/s...u will get the answer).......
RE:what ?????
by The Truth on Sep 26, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
Why order aircrafts from boeing?, should have read Vaimanika shastra and built it in India.
RE:RE:what ?????
by GN on Sep 26, 2007 12:52 PM Permalink
the truth is very simple my dear. the arguement on every issue clearly shows the unity we currently have among the new generation.
The knowledge handed over by the older generation through the Vedas, were never used by us but we spend time arguing on religions issues with each other.
But the Western world know how to use our resources of knowledge and label it with their names.
the latest example is the patent of ayurvedic medicines by US.
idiot beliefs & faiths are differ from Science , did any body force u to practice the particular religion ? i think in India its not possible particularly form Hindus side bcoz we ppl never forced anybody to do that, its possible only in Islam & Christianlity, so don't try to hurt others feelings.
RE:what ?????
by yogi goli on Sep 26, 2007 12:47 PM Permalink
u prove then what u want. Why are u questiong a boy. The better don't speak when u don;t know. That is what everybody is speaking. U don;t know whether Ram exist or not then why are u opening your mouth.
nobody has proved that ram did not exist. that's fine - but will anyone standup & prove that ram did exist ????? where are the bjp, rss, shivsenas & so called hindu fundamentalist ????? (hindus ke rakwala)
RE:RE:what ?????
by The Truth on Sep 26, 2007 12:48 PM Permalink
The life of Jesus is recorded in roman history, and his birth has divided history into BC and AD. you dont see your back, you always see others back.
RE:what ?????
by Nation on Sep 26, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
idiot beliefs & faiths are differ from Science , did any body force u to practice the particular religion ? i think in India its not possible particularly form Hindus side bcoz we ppl never forced anybody to do that, its possible only in Islam & Christianlity, so don't try to hurt others feelings.
If Ram is fictitious, so are Allah, the prophet, Christ etc. The point is that anyone can say anything against Hindus and get away. Let Karunanidhi say anything against the Prophet and lets see what happens - numerous fatwas, a couple of suicide bombers at his doorstep, Arab nations protesting...Karuna would be dead meat
RE:RE:Facts and fiction
by Imran on Sep 26, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
All religious people need to grow up bcoz all are following myths and lies from so called prophets.
RE:Facts and fiction
by ManLion on Sep 26, 2007 12:53 PM Permalink
Dear Mohan Kumar, can you prove who your great great grand father was and whether he did exist? Even for an atheist the language that you use only indicates your culture and upbringing. Have you got proof that Jesus rose from the dead? There are so many fictional characters, why are they are not being worshipped? Who worships Ravana even though he was a great devotee of Shiva?
RE:Facts and fiction
by Mohandas Menon on Sep 26, 2007 12:57 PM Permalink
Hindus are 'drums' and any one can beat de drums and get cash. Let Karunanidhi and co face the elction with the slogan-"we do not believe in the existence of Ram or Krishna or any God or Goddesses"
RE:Facts and fiction
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 12:42 PM Permalink
LOLSSSS...........u moron........u r language proves u r ignorance and u r jihadi mindset........u know for sur that ram did not exist.......cna u prove that dear....???
RE:Facts and fiction
by sanjay choudhry on Sep 26, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
Jesus is more fictional than Rama. If Jesus could walk on water and his corpse come alive and start flying, then sure Hanuman could fly to. What are you smoking? Are you saying people who beleive in Jesus have low IQ?
RE:Facts and fiction
by yogi goli on Sep 26, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
Did u see other God? Your father see other god? your mother see other God? Nobody seen the God? Likewise your fatther, mother and u never saw Ram, allah, jesus, guru gobindsingh. Now tell me which God are u beliving and why? i will answer becuase somebody told u. Is that correct? If yes then why not Ram. U didn't see from your naked eyes that does,nt mean that he exist or not. Like wise no God exist on earth. Don;t hurt others sentiments. Try to understand other religion and their important then only u will come to know otherwise don;t speak if u don;t know anything that is better for u.
RE:RE:Facts and fiction
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
LOLSSSS...........u moron........u r language proves u r ignorance and u r jihadi mindset........u know for sur that ram did not exist.......cna u prove that dear....???
My body is not a perfect body. I have a tail that does not stick out, I have eyes that are built inside-out, I have a throat that risks suffocation every time I eat. The human body does not show the shape you would design into it if you were an all wise, all powerful magical god starting with a handful of mud. It is the shape you would expect to see if you started with an ape.
The universe is many orders of magnitude bigger and more complex than the scientifically illiterate prophets and holy book writers knew. The real truth is much more interesting, much more inspiring and much more instructive than all the holy books every written. Allow yourself to appreciate and enjoy the universe some time. It will open your eyes. There's no need to thank me, or any god.
Live your life and make what meaning of it you can. If you screw up this life or if you live it to perfection you will not get another one.
VHP and RSS are projecting Ram as a vibrant and agressive God representing Hindu ethos. Proof of Ram's existance or non existance may not be given. But there is no proof that Ram or other characters in Ramayana called themselves a Hindu.
RE:was Ram a Hindu?
by Nation on Sep 26, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
idiot beliefs & faiths are differ from Science , did any body force u to practice the particular religion ? i think in India its not possible particularly form Hindus side bcoz we ppl never forced anybody to do that, its possible only in Islam & Christianlity, so don't try to hurt others feelings.
RE:was Ram a Hindu?
by sksk on Sep 26, 2007 12:48 PM Permalink
Islam is not a recent religion .it started with adam .mohammed is the last prophet of islam
