RAMO VIGRAHAVAN DHARMA means the idol of rama itself stands for righteousness. he behaved like a human being and stood as an exapmple par excellence. what if if we emulate HIM blindly
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by Jyothi Kuppaiah on Oct 01, 2007 08:51 PM Permalink
Hello Mr you know whom you%u2019re comparing with this (Karunanidhi) creature. You mean to say 5000 years of Hindu History is just a political drama and, all our Rishi%u2019s and Mahatmas didn%u2019t had a better job than what this (Karunanidhi) creature is doing now. For your kind information, have ever read Ramayana and Mahabharatha, please read once and then start giving statements
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by Ramasubbu on Oct 10, 2007 02:35 PM Permalink
Hinduism is 500 years old, Vedism is 2000 years old.Vedism in south india is only 1500 years old. RAm and most of vedic gods are fake and imaginary.
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by Arjun Periyar on Oct 03, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
Dear Anto, Do you believe that Yeshu'd mother was prostitute? Does this attracts you towards prostitutes? My friend, still you don't have enough maturity & wisdom to comment on Ramayana & Mahabharata. Your such absurd comments are by no way going to degrade the stature of Ramayana & Mahabharata. People are still remembering them for more than thousands of years. Creatures like you will not be remembered by anyone even when your are alive!
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by Krishna swamy on Oct 03, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
As you see Mr.Anto, this earth has both bad and good and finally we humans have a sense to take the good and that is what also explained in Ramayana and Mahabarata.
I hope you like the things which is mentioned not to do in Mahabarat and Ramayana.
And you love do it. When many good things are in focus, this is what you understood, I feel realy pity of people who are around you.
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by Ramasubbu on Oct 04, 2007 01:40 PM Permalink
Thank god america, japan, germany did not have Ram, else they would have been as corrupt as Indians. look at our judiciary and mafia police who are 90% rotten. Women are most unsafe in this Ram-rajya. Thank god Rest of world doesn't have this Ram Rajya. let us go to christian school and start believing all those fake gods created by Brahmins. Basically hinduism is another name of brahmin slavery. RAM RAJYA HAS CORRUPTED OUR COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE DIE OUT OF HUNGER, DISEASE , POVERTY, but we still love feeding our fake gods with LADDU and PEDA.
All our kids go to christian schools and we talk about non-existing Ram. Afterall we are slaves to our gunda politicians, bureaucracy and slave of western world. Thanks to China also who manufacturer our Hanumanji and Ram Idols. Imported Ramji , sitaji, Hanumanji.
I apologise for being blunt, I don't care what religion you or we are, first we need to respect work, humanity. RAM RAJYA has only bought as poverty, hunger and slavery.
I THANK RAMJI, SITAJI , GANESHJI ,BRAHMAJI, VISHNUJI, KAURAVJI AND MILLION OTHER GODS FOR NOT GOING TO AMERICA, GERMANY , JAPAN.LET YOUR FOLLOWERS GO TO AMERICA, EARN SOME MONEY AND BRING BACK ENOUGH MONEY TO FEED YOU WITH LADDUS, NARIYAL , PEDA AND BUNDI.
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by ashok kumar verma on Oct 05, 2007 07:24 AM Permalink
HELLO Ramasubbu.....who told u that there is Ram Rajya .If it would have been then I DONT THINK THERE would have been any problem
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by Ramasubbu on Oct 10, 2007 02:36 PM Permalink
ram rajya has gone to america , since there are too many believers of Ram in america. they are more happy. Cow belt ram rajya is fake.
When people in government have no faith in GOD or say any religious beliefs they should not touch the funds generated by the offerings by real devotees.leave the temples to mend for themselves by trusts and leaving no say to 'themselves'. then they realise the power og almighty when feel the famine f funds. no hypocrite should have access to the funds.
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by deepak janardhanan on Oct 02, 2007 03:31 PM Permalink
karunanidhi don't take money from RAM temples for the purpose of governance.
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by suresh goel on Oct 03, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
Now Mr karunanidhi will decide whether Rama existed or not ? I want to know whether Karuna has faith in any God ? can he answer who is creature of this world and particularly this Karunanidhi. He is not concerned with any body, he has move opposite to Jayalalitha ?
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by Ramasubbu on Oct 04, 2007 01:54 PM Permalink
Karunanidhi belives in other jina gods, Lord muruga, lord venkateshawara, dr. parthasarthy perumal. Dr. Venugopal perumal, Kapaleeshwara, which are not known to BJP, VHP, RSS. so forget. afterall south gods are rakashashas, and any one who do not believe brahmin has many heads. south india i think hinduism never existed. All the temples of south are originally jina temples of dravid style. historically proven facts
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by VIJAYA BUDDHIRAJU on Oct 02, 2007 06:54 PM Permalink
Karun does not take money from Mosques also for his governance-would the gentleman remove a mosque and show us?
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by Ramasubbu on Oct 04, 2007 01:51 PM Permalink
how many wives Ram had? how many children? Was he born in America. Why people starve in Rama Rajya. I think america has Ram rajya and nice indra devata. No devdasis in america, very unbfortunate
A perfect world is one which is as perceived by DMK...
The world, according to DMK is divided into Aryans and Dravidans...
Whoever opposes DMK and its policy is either an Aryan or a Dravidan hater...
DMK policies are progressive... all others are not...
In DMK, family politics is called democracy...
Swindling, robbery, hooliganism are allowed to be practised only by DMK cadres...
Learning hindi is degenerative as it is a language of the Aryans, but learning english is not... (probably karunanidhi thinks that the Dravidans invented Engllish!)
Only SC/ST/OBC/BC can bring about development and if they are Dravidans then more the development; the General category public are just traitors....
History is strictly to be followed as per their current leadership perceptions...
Atheism, as defined in DMK dictionary, is opposing Hinduism...
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by subhaprada on Oct 04, 2007 04:01 PM Permalink
Well said sir! I have never thought that there still exists some differences between aryans and dravidians... I was shocked to see ppl's postings that Karunanidhi beleives in Lord Venkateshwara and so does that fellow... but fail to understand the dasavataras and Rama and Venkateswara are avatars of Lord Vishnu..!!! I pity those ppl!!!
And kid, Dont try much over The History of India. You should be shameful for acting like a savior for alien conquerers. The Missionaries are nothing but East Indian Company-2. You are one of those pity animals whom sure tommorow will act like another paki-sthanis (separators). Keep this word kid. Our self-centric leaders and idealess media had not at all realized this.
it has become a fashion to abuse dr karunanidhi. every reformer received abuse from the elite sections in society. right from raja ram mohan roy to periyar,the intellectual strength of the reformers was able to defeat the section of society which never wanted changes. there was fierce opposition to allowing the entry of lower castes into temples. the rationalist movement of periyar,annadurai and karunanidhi saved hinduism from decline and allowed the lower castes to regain their place and pride. when this is pointed out ,some deceitful sections immediately point out to atrocities still prevalent. the idiocy inherent in that is obvious. they point out to the present flaws but blame the pioneers who initiated the fight.
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by Vikas Bhatt on Sep 28, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
Ram Mohan Roy fought for a widow remarriage without malice and was appreciable. Vivekananda talked about upliftment of all that are poor. Savarkar helped abolish caste system. Neither preached hatred for people on community lines like DMK gundas. Periya, Karuna etc. do not fall in any category of social sciences. They merely seek to reverse the roles of victims and the so called oppressors. They want only the backwards castes to rise and the upper castes to fall. Karuna's anti-hindu and all this brahmin bashing only reveals hatred for a particular community and has done everything he can to reduce their numbers and to discriminate against them. They do not believe in equality for all but subversion of upper castes because they now have the power. maybe you should look at what Mayawati is trying to do now in UP. Can your hero Karuna remove his biases and his prejudices for upper castes and walk down that path? What he stands for is dictatorial and an equally racist and divisive politics aimed at disrupting social harmonay the other way round now. This is not secularism but ethnic cleansing all the same and discrimination of certain sections of people and in this case the so called upper castes.
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by Vikas Bhatt on Sep 28, 2007 04:49 PM Permalink
Which is why such dangerous people along with Congress that divide people of 21st century Progressive India along communal and religious lines - Hindu,Muslim,Majority,Minority and Brahmins,Dalits. This is politics of the worst kind aimed at dividing and rule and not aimed at unifying India where caste will no longer exist and all citizens of all faiths will be equals. Education is supposed to be a tool to educate people and rid them of their malicious thinking. I am surprised education has not benefited you and You still view things through the narrow caste prism idolizing people whose intent is only to provoke more disharmony in the nation. They are worse than BJP. At least BJP shows it's true colours and is not like a chameleon hiding under secular colours with a communal tongue to eat up voters. Congress/DMK etc are the communal ones who openly use caste to divide people playing and minority and backwards excuses and talk of being secular.
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by Vikas Bhatt on Sep 28, 2007 04:47 PM Permalink
Karuna and UPA does not like truely secular solutions. They demand proof for Rama's existance and hurt Hindus but go out of their place to appease Muslims and Christians and so called Dalits. What kind of secularism and democracy are they practising? Under any case we youth are not practising untouchability, sati, widow and minority and dalit persecution but study and work together with everyone so why should some of suffer for sins we didn't commit? What excuse do you have to justify what UPA is doing? You claim you have upper caste friends? Do they treat you as inferior, dalit or untouchable? They joke with you, eat and drink with you and even share their life with you. Why would you want discrimination against them because of caste? Suppose you have a best friend in upper caste. Tomorrow if your child gets 60% and gets admission on reservation in medical science and if his child gets 90% but still does not get the seat because he is upper caste, can you imagine what he will feel? Are we not treating him like a dalit now? Is this also not oppression? Just think how you would feel if you were in his place? He will then hate you and this is how more hatred and caste hostilities will spread? How will caste system stop them and how will equality be restored? When will this politics of making someone suffer to win votes of others stop and will this policy of robbing Peter to pay John stop? How can you be proud of what Karuna is doing? he is ripping apart the society on caste lin
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by dinesh kumar on Sep 28, 2007 05:31 PM Permalink
mr vikas bhatt, where do you live,sir? in tamilnadu,the cutoff for medical entrance is 93 % for the sc category. instead of spinning tales,i would appreciate it if you provide some factual information.
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by Seshadri on Sep 28, 2007 08:06 PM Permalink
dinesh, there are thousands of students in general category for every 0.1% in such examinations who are rejected...
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by Vikas Bhatt on Sep 28, 2007 04:47 PM Permalink
How can you be proud of what Karuna is doing? he is ripping apart the society on caste lines and pushing TN and India to another civil war one that will get bloody someday as resources get less and people needing them increase. Don't compare racist gundas like Karuna with social scientists like Ram Mohan, Ambedkar or Vivekananda.
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by dinesh kumar on Sep 28, 2007 05:51 PM Permalink
you are talking about the democratically elected chief minister of tamilnadu. he has not presided over demolition of religious places. he has not presided over attacks on people from outside the state. he has not engineered riots to win elections. he was at the head of a revolution which achieved its objective solely by the power of the pen without a single incident of loss of life. he has saved hinduism by achieving the entry of lower castes into temples. he has strengthened hinduism by making it possible for people from every community to become priests. the most honourable vikas bhatt is slipping headlong into falsehood and hate.
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by Mahesh Balakrishnan on Sep 29, 2007 06:43 PM Permalink
Dinesh, You are unaware,Karuna has put slippers garland on idols,he shields his sons from murder cases,and a CM of a state is advocating bandh.He may not believe in Hinduism or Gods however he need not call Ram a drunkard,this from someone who is a womaniser and u are defending such a guy.He has not strengthened Hindusim.And for your cut off marks in TN,I suggest you get treated only by Dalit doctors and esnure your family members also visit a dalit doctor,you guys consider it an honour to be considered Dalits and continue to milk the reservation system.
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by dinesh kumar on Sep 28, 2007 05:28 PM Permalink
most honourable vikas bhatt,can you please reveal what you meant by brahmin bashing?
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by Vikas Bhatt on Sep 28, 2007 04:42 PM Permalink
Which country did'nt have such communal issues? Christianity is divided between believers and athiests, Muslims between Shia/Sunni/Ahmedi factions, USA had Black and White problems and Red Indian discrimination, New Zealand had Maoris as downtrodden, Aus has aborigines. But every country has democratic setups. No one uses reservations as excuse for discriminating against any community. They promote compulsory education, schools, scholarships, training for meritorious, money for needy, and above all every child is treated equally with same opportunities.
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by Vikas Bhatt on Sep 28, 2007 04:53 PM Permalink
LOOK AT THIS ARTICLE TO SEE HOW CASTE AND RELION PLAYS OPPRESSIVE POLITICS IN EVERY COUNTRY IN ASIA. Only japan has gotten out of that rut by bringing in equality among it's citizens without favour or prejudice to some. Pak, Lanka and Nepal suffer ethnic violence becuase the civilo war became bloody with continued discrimination. Do you want India to also go the same way? Then we have to ensure same benefits for all without caste or religion.
http://www.dalits.org/goonasekerereport.htm Economic and Social Council
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by Krishna swamy on Sep 28, 2007 06:09 PM Permalink
And friend Dhinesh,
Did somebody thought there will be break-up with the Grand father Karuna and Grand child Dhayanidhi.
To tell the truth, I was shocked. Why I am telling this because not DMK, but if something starts going wrong like this in the administration can you or me control this ?
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by Krishna swamy on Sep 28, 2007 06:10 PM Permalink
To be more accurate, the politics will be played at the cost of peoples head. Atleast if silence is not there, let peace come in
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by Krishna swamy on Sep 28, 2007 09:18 PM Permalink
And to tell the truth, I am a lover of Dr.Kalaingars immence knowledge of Tamil. Most of improvements happened during DMK. I don't deny it. Well and Good. My only worriness is about hurting the belief of crores of people.
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by Krishna swamy on Sep 28, 2007 09:13 PM Permalink
Dhinesh,
I am not person who hurt or blame a movement.
To trigger violence in a country, it is not needed that the movement itself should involve in violence.
Ok coming to the blasts that happened in Coimbatore. What would you say? Not 1 or 2 blasts.
When government simply watches this violence as a live game what else you want to tell. The government wants peace so they won't take any action or action so late. is it so?
Have been to areas in Coimbatore where you cannot simply enter make a investigation and come alive.
YSR,CM of Hyd(AP) was unable to answer to the questions asked by Shoba in rediff.
TN Administration has the caliber and power to wipe out the whole dirty polictics in one day if given control and punish the culprits.ok.
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by dinesh kumar on Sep 28, 2007 06:20 PM Permalink
krishna swamy, can you inform which movement organised by the dmk was violent? the only incident you will cite is the recent dinakran attack. im not a dmk person,but people are doing uniformed or malicious propaganda. as far as i can see, the jayalalitha regime assaulted some lawyers who filed cases against the then govt.
A leader of this competence should not utter this short. Instead should have stated,
"The era of Mahabharat and Ramayan were so advanced that todays mankind cannot so easily interpret their existence and doings".
There is lots of scientific evidence in Mahabharat and Ramayan itself.
In Mahabharat, at its end there goes a powerful nuclear blast which more or less finishes up the humankind of that region. A mindful reading over this last text will tell you what was it actually. It has also described Dimensions more than of 3D. Lot more to add.
In Ramayan, Sampaki the super species-ed bird helps out the team to trace out the hide out of Sita. It helps by locating with its eagle eye (Like modern day sniffers). Based on that Hanuman checks down each and every island located south and finally traces down. These super species once existed and even few of its genre may still exist which arent caught for human sight.
In turn, Christs/Mohammand had been too badly exaggerated so that it has polluted millions of minds worldover. Moreover, both Bible and Quron are known for hell lot of contradictions within and preaching hatred/violence.
Atlast, Why cant you people keep your nasty mouth closed???
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by Manickam on Sep 28, 2007 12:10 PM Permalink
well said. whether u r christian or muslim doesnt matter. But there is no agreement between rama and hanuman, it was a condition help between rama and vali brother.
Our Political Parties never focus on real issues like Poverty,Unemployment,development,etc.But they keep on harping on Non-Issues such as Ram Sethu Bridge.I mean what a common man will benefit from such an issue.All Political Parties are Nonsense & Only ordinary People Suffers..Why No ones talks about ROTI,KAPDA & MAKAAN.Corruption is Rampant in our Society & our political parties are mixing religion with Politics & Politicising the whole issue to DIVERT the people from the real issues such as Poverty & Unemployments.Actually All parties are taking us for a ride & we all silly people are falling in to their trap.
Unless and until Indians remain vigilant and wary they may again be consigned to the dustbin of history to suffer eternal darkness and human bondage.
