I have read these messages, there are lots of Singhalses coming here with their anti Tamil and sublte half truth propaganda. First leaving the Ltte out . The Tamils in SriLanka have been living in the country for thousands of years> The north and east of Sri Lanka has always been Tamil speaking adn have hardly been Singhala. when Europeans came to Sri lanka there were three kingdoms tow nmonally Sinhala and one Tamil ( the kingdom of Jaffna) All three were reules by Tamils, Two of whom stated they were Sinhala. Th eeast was ruled by Tamil chietans calld Vannimar, they were independent until the Portuguese capture of the Tamil Kingdom of Jaffan and th eSinhal kingdom of Kotte , they then asked the Tamil/Sinhal kings of Kandy for prtection. But this was of no use as they were captured too. The British captured the Kingdom of Kandy in 1815. And the last independent Tamil Province of Vanni ruled by the Tamil chieftan Pandara Vanniyan few years later. This was the last independt Tamil Kingdom to be captured and it was not in India but in EElam.The British united all these and called this colony Ceylon for adminstrative purposes.The Dutch and the POrtuguese recognised th eetnnice and relgious differences and ruled the Sinhal and Tamil speaking areas as two seperate colonies. The British also took the two Tamil districts of Puttalam and Chilaw in the North West coast and merged them with the Sinhala provinces resulting in the Sinhalisation of the Tamils there especially after 1948
RE:Tamil in Sri Lanka Deserve Equal ringts in not freedom
by Edwin Navaratnam on Sep 25, 2007 03:27 PM Permalink
contd . Although Sinhala is considered an Indo Aryan language. The present Sinhala population has very little of th eso called Aryan blood in them. They are basically Dravidians and to some extent Veddoid. The very fewAryan speakers of indeterminate numbers when they landed in the country had no women folk according to legend they wee banished. They took Pandyan women as thier wives as wel as th elocal Tamil Naga and Veddha girls. Originally what was Sinhalas meant was the descendents of these migratns. But later any one who was Buddhist and spoke Sinhala becam a Sinhalse. Due to trade the coming of Bddhism and th ePower of these few Prkrit elite. the orginal Proto Tamil/Tamil/Elu language changed and may sanskrit and Pali words came in and the language evolved in to Sinhala. th emodren Sinhal is basicaly a mixture of Sanskrit/Pali /Tamil. Even today Sinhala grammar and language and sentence struture is bascially Tamil. Except for this few Aryan migrants al llater migrations to th eIsland was form South Indiam mainly form southern Tamil Nadu and South Keral 9 When Kerala was Tamil speaking too).in fact 50% of the present Sinhala population makiing up of the castes Karawe, Durawe, slagama Hunu Hali Demalgedera etc only started to migrate ffrom sothern Tamil Nadu aroudn 600 to 100 years ago . The irony is many Sinhalses form these castes are the most anti Eelam Tamil. The extremist Sinhal parties of JVP JHU and even Mahinda Rajapkse's pary have many members from these castes
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by Edwin Navaratnam on Sep 25, 2007 03:50 PM Permalink
MOst Sinhala aristocrats are of South Indian Tamil Origin. Lot are the Tamil/telugu Nayakas (but they aere exclusively Tamil speaking). the ancestoer of the Bandaranayake clan was a Neela Prumal who only migrated form Tamil Nadu inthe 17th century and Former Presidents Jayawardena ,Ranil Wickremesinghe was a Thambi Mudalali . When the British captured the Kingsom of Kandy the King and 90% of the Sinhala chieftens ( Including the ancestores of the Bandarnaike Jayawardene Clan) signed the treaty in Tamil and not in Sinhala. Many place names in the south of Sri lanka at glance sojd Sinhala but of old/Cankam Tamil Orgin . Whist this was happening the North and East of Sri Lank ath epeople largely remained HIndu so the old language was preserved and a new ethnic group and language was forming Eelam Tamil ( different from mainstram Tamil in Tamilnadu). Many ethnic groups here mergen into one the Dravidians, Nagas, Veddas the remaining Sinhal speaking population to form the Eelam Tamils. A substantial minrity of the current Eelam Tamil ppouplation have Sinhala blood in them. The current EElam Tamildialect has many Cankam Tamil words and word still used in Malayalam but gone ou t of usage in Tamil Nadu Tamil. It is far less Sanskritsed than the Tamil in Tamil Nadu. BUt this is now rapidly changing. Constant Chola and Pandyan invasions bringing in settlers ( mainly Cholas aof Vellalar caste) Kept the Tamil language culture alive by 11th century this South Indian infusion stopped. cont
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by Edwin Navaratnam on Sep 25, 2007 04:08 PM Permalink
Many Chola and Pandyan migrants who setteld in the south became Sinhalese. Basically this hard segregation these two ethnic groups started to take place. whoever remained inthe south became Sinhala and inthe north and east became Tamil . And whoever settled in the NOrth and East became Tamil and inthe south became Sinhalas so many of the Chola and Pndyan soldiesr and migrants who came with the invasions actually became Sinhala and not Tamil as the Sinhalas try to make it out that is why you get names lie Poonam Perumma. Sooriya perruma( perumaL in Tamil) and the Tamil Vellar name Pillai is now Pilli amongst Sinhalas like KodiPilli. Basically other tha a few invasion on each other both race were left to themsleves most of the time and developed their own culture. The thick jungles seperating the two people also helped the isolation. The Britsh didnot favour the Tamils. Th etamils took to education as they came formth eless fertile areas . The Sinhalas and the Eastern Tamils came form very foertile partes of the country so the fight for survival was not that intense. the Jaffna is arid and highly populated so education was the only way outas wel as migration. Unlike the south Indian Tamils th eaJafan Tamils migrated as white collar workers and their descendant are doin gvery wel lin Malasia nad Singapor.To add to htis mix the BRitish brought in indenturs Tamil platation workers fromTamil Nadu, they live in the Central highlands and are a seperate group from the Eelam Tamils.
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by Edwin Navaratnam on Sep 25, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
The plight of the Eelam Tamils is mainly due to the fault of th e Brtish. recently one of the British envoys admitted this too. Instead guaranteing the rights of the minorty and seeing to that the Tamils and other minorities had adequate protecion either in a federal or any other form the handed the Tamils on a platter to the Sinhalese who viwed them as thier tradtional enemies. The British did not find a united country when they came, they united this ofr thier own convennience so when they left they should have seen to ths fact that the minorities had real adequae protection or given the Eelam Tamils their own country back ( the Sinhalas had never ruled these two provincs and were always eying them but never succeded and this was giving the hapless Tamils on a platter to them to do what ever they liked). A united country is fien and is batter but this will only work if al citzens irrespective of language ethnicity or religion are trated equalay and given the sam oppurtunities. But since independence every Sinhala party has ocnstantly eorded the rights of Tamils denied them the use of their language education emoployment and grbbed thier land for colonisation in order to make them a minority in their own lands, the east of Sri lanka had less than 1% Sinhalas in 19498 even uo to 1956, all place names wer Tamil now due to etnic cleansing and Colonistion Sinhalas are 30% and increasing , th erecent capture of the East as accelarated it .
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by Edwin Navaratnam on Sep 25, 2007 04:39 PM Permalink
I amo not saying the everthing that the Ltte does is correct . But atleast they are genuine in trying to safeguard the Tamil rights. Every time they loose in an area . The Tamil population is displaced ethnnically cleansed aSinhal migratns ar broght in under th eguise of resettlement and place names are changed and many Hidu places of worship become Buddhist. You have to live amongs the Sinhalas to realise their Anti Indian and Anti Hindu/Tamil Hate. they may be of Indian origin and like I previously stated many are recent migratns from Tamil Nadu . but they are brain washed in to beleiving in thie rwritten Mahavamsa myth that the land is only thiers and this is the sacred land of Buddhism an dthat th eHIndu Tamil Usurpers should be driven away or forcibly made to become Sinhalas. You can see the same sort of theme coming out in the posts form th Sinhalas. here, Genocide means denying a person to use thier language education emoloyment , etnically cleansin g them making them e minority in their own land, displacing and chasing them away 250000 Eelamn Tamils are internally displaced and are living in wretched conditions in the north and east. Another 3000000 in Cloombo or In India and another 7500000 in living in the west. For samll populatiopn of 3.5 Million Eelam Tamils . this is bleeding and genocide. If you read th eSinhal posts in papere their chat rooms u tube they are rejoicng in this . If this is not genocide what is. Sinhala terrorsism applauded and Tamils terrorsts
they are the kind of people who foment trouble, and yet congress party which has suffered at its hands have joined hands with a scumbag like stalin and karu. what a tragedy.
are problems everywhere in the world regarding ethnicitiy,race, religion. If we start carving out countries based on that, the world will have a 100 million countries.
Whose report is this? Whether Sri Lankan Government's or Indian Government's ? If Sri Lanka's, they just put blame on South India and they plan for dividing our country.
If it is Indian Govt's report, Congress & DMk are ruling both centre and State. They are supposed to take action.
The fanatical megalomaniac Vellupillai Prabhakaran has attempted an assassination against Soosai, and is now also trying to knock off other senior LTTE leaders. This is because Prabhakaran wants to ensure that his amateur son becomes his successor as the new head of LTTE. Prabhakaran is already trying to create his own hereditary monarchy, based on his own family line. Charles Antony has not earned a place at the top of LTTE. But we can see how the corruption of Prabhakaran infests the Eelam movement. George Orwell's Animal Farm is a reality.
RE:Prabhakaran is Trying to Assassinate Other Senior LTTE
by Tamil Nadu on Sep 25, 2007 10:16 AM Permalink
This is straight from the Lankan propaganda machinery.
Rationalist is a racist, and I condemn his views. I am a genuine atheist and rationalist, and I object to my belief system (atheism/rationalism) being hijacked by racists to peddle their racist agenda. Rationalism was not devised for that purpose. Racism and rationalism cannot coexist. Dravidian Racial Supremacism must be opposed.
thanks for a good debate, but at this point we should agree that we disagree, you may very many valid points but I simply do not believe in race theory 1 bit. Race is not a scientific concept, It is scientific hogwash like creationism, scientology, 4000 year old earth etc.
RE:SAY NO TO TERRORISM
by on Sep 25, 2007 01:41 AM Permalink
The Tamil people of the island of Ceylon (now called Sri Lanka) constitute a distinct nation. They form a social entity, with their own history, traditions, culture, language and traditional homeland. The Tamil people call their nation Tamil Eelam. LTTE is the freedom fighter for TAMIL EELAM Check this http://eelam.com/2006/
RE:SAY NO TO TERRORISM
by san man on Sep 25, 2007 04:16 AM Permalink
India must not be a vehicle for LTTE fanaticism. They have assassinated an Indian Prime Minister, and they must not be allowed onto Indian territory again. Let LTTE fight and die at the hands of the SLAF. It's not our fight, and foreign policy is only decided by consensus. Nobody in Indian has the right to short-circuit or bypass the law, and give military assistance to LTTE. They are a terrorist group which recruits child soldiers. They treat children like sacrificial lambs. This is how inhumane they are. They will fail in their fascist war.
RE:SAY NO TO TERRORISM
by Tamil Nadu on Sep 25, 2007 10:23 AM Permalink
The LTTE is fighting for Tamil Rights. Every sensible Tamil and human should support them morally. Tamils are killed by the Lankan government for the simple reason that they are Tamils. India is also comprised of more than 60 million Tamils and their support for the Eelam struggle should be taken into account by the Indian government in foreign policy matters.
RE:SAY NO TO TERRORISM
by Indian on Sep 25, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
What the Heck!! At this rate our country will also be divided into 30 parts very soon. And what do you have to say about LTTE killing a couple of 1000 IPKF and eventually assasinating our own PM? What struggle made the LTTE kill our own brave soldiers and one of the best PM India could have lived with?????
