The Yechury's of this filthy stinking cespool of a land, are the villains who've schemed to keep India a divided, poverty-stricken, backward, underdeveloped land of filth and squalor, and who're always pandering to their Muslim votebanks by openly showing their hatred and contempt of Hindus and Hinduism - there's a competition in the Commie camp to see who's most anti-Hindu, the only qualification for being 'secular'.
Please read only if you believe in 'humanity' (Manavata). My message is for them only who truely believes in humanity. I want to share a thought of spreading 'Good' and discouraging Bad.
If you like to hurt anybody, certainly it is Demon's pleasure. If you feel bad for anybody's pain, you are like a Human. If you sacrifice your hapiness and your time for removing other's pain, it is Godly pleasure.
I regularly read the messages posted on Rediff once or twice a day in my free time. I clearly find above three categories even while reading messages. Some readers deliberately irritate others and then it is like chain-reaction. But there are few good messages acting like buffers to calm down readers. I know, everybody have beliefs in life, everybody learns and struggles regularly and unfortunately everybody gets irritated regualrly in life. All are HUMANS.
Llet there be some more light and not only darkness for all. Please, let us spread good feelings. Let us create hope and not disappoint. Let us not fight on foolish statements of politicians. If you carry one candle of light, you may spread the light. So please try to be human and not demon. Let humanity win over all the ills. Let us be MORE HUMAN-LIKE and less DEMON-LIKE. Finally there will be more humanity and respect for each other. There will be light of SMILES and less irritating words. !!!WISH YOU A GOOD DAY and a happy smile!!! (If you agree, please spread the light ahead.)
RE:Demon's feelings and Human's Feelings--Let Ram and Rahim live in your heart and let humanity win over. MUST READ ONCE
by tamilan on Sep 21, 2007 07:35 PM Permalink
At last a good message from a good freind. This forum should be used for some healthy discussions.
RE:Demon's feelings and Human's Feelings--Let Ram and Rahim live in your heart and let humanity win over. MUST READ ONCE
by on Sep 21, 2007 07:40 PM Permalink
your message is ideal. BUT I WISH THIS WAS AN IDEAL WORLD, with all peace and sacrificing people of the third type that you have described. BUT AS YOU ARE SEEING EVERYBODY WANTS TO ABUSE OTHERS ONLY FOR A MARGINAL BENEFIT OF HIS OWN. I HOPE THE ONES WHO ARE BEING FOOOLED, REALIZE THAT A SMALL ACTION FROM THEIR SIDE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE ATTITUDEW OF EVEN THE TORMENTORS (LIKE KARUNANIDHI) WHO WOULD NOT DARE TO EVEN THINK ILL OTHERS.
ITs really a joke, that CPM is issuing this statement. A clear strategy of brandishing opponents in a negative way.. but alas.. today people are not fools..
When you make such statements, people know, that the communists are most communal in india.. honouring the bomblaster madani in kerala, and assisting the muslims to drive away hindus in WB..
Please do not use the word Hindu. Arya is the true word. Hindu word was coined by Muslim Arabs it means a thief or something similar. Somepeople noe claims that it refers to iver Sindhu. Anyway HIndu word is not found in the vedas. Please do not worship as stones or animals as the vedas believe in one formless god. Arya Samaj is the only true Hindu movement. Gita also says that do not worship demigods.In Arya temples you will not find idols etc.
Gita Seventh Chapter, twentieth verse:
"Those whose minds are distorted by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures."
RE:Arya not Hindu
by on Sep 21, 2007 07:10 PM Permalink
divide man divide. thats what you are paid for. hindus are hindus now dont confuse any one with your dividing tactics. arya samjis are also hindus. BRAHMINS, SHUDRAS, VAISHYA, KASHTRIAYAS, kashmiri pandits are also hindus, punjabi, marathi , bengali, assamese, gujrati, kannada, dravid, mallaya all are hindus. AND ALL ARE ONE.
RE:Arya not Hindu
by on Sep 21, 2007 07:53 PM Permalink
WHAT A MISQUOTATION OF BHAGWAD GITA .... LORD KRISHNA DOES NOT SAY THAT ONE HAS NOT TO PRAY DEMIGODS (AS YOU CALL THEM). BUT HE SAYS THAT EVERYBODY CANNOT BE SO SPIRITUAL TO GET ABOVE THAT LEVEL AND ARJUNA HAS TO GET ABOVE THAT LEVEL AND DO HIS DUTY, AS DUTY ONLY. TO UNDERSTAND ONE GOD AS WHOLE OF UNIVERSE AND ALL THE POWER ASSOCIATED WITH IT IS NOT EASY FOR EVERY ONE.
English is very funny language. You will not find most of Hindi translations in English. The fact is that there is no English translation of Dharam. The English word is Religion. But Religion and Dharam are two different words with different meanings. In Hindi, we call Religion as 'Sampradya', like Hindu 'Sampradya', Muslim 'Sampradya', Christian 'Sampradya'etc., whereas in English, we will say Hindu Religion, Muslim Religion or Christian Religion. Dharam is world associated with Mankind. For example, 'Humanity is mankind', no one will say 'Humanity is Religion', but the same if you have to convey in Hindi, then the correct phrase in Hindi will be 'Manavta Hi Dharam Hai'. No one will say ' Manavata Hi 'Sampradya' Hai'. Therefore, Dharam is uniform word, associated to all Human Beings irrespective of any Professions, Religions. In view of the same, no one can separate Dharam even from Politics. Today's context of Politics doesnot contain Dharam, that's why Politics has been criminalized. But today's politician, without analysing anything are commenting. Worship is a private. Who is stopping the same ? I think nobody is stopping. Everyone are free to worship in India as per their faith. In a broader sense, if we take the meaning of Religion as Dharam in English, then Religion has to be mixed with Politics to make Politics more holy. Today problem is arising due to involvement of Govt. by playing with the sentiments of Hindu Faith, which is totally private. No Hindu
RE:Dharam
by Asim Mehtani on Sep 21, 2007 06:00 PM Permalink
"In Continuation of Above" ==========================
No Hindu is forcing anyone to believe in Lord Ram, but one should not also question the existence of Lord Ram. There were Dharam war during Lord Ram and Krishna's period, whether those wars were between two 'Religions' or 'Sampradya'. Of Course 'No'. Those wars were between the 'Right', and 'Wrong'. 'Right' is Dharam, and 'Wrong' is Adharm'.
RE:Dharam
by on Sep 21, 2007 06:16 PM Permalink
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. A GOOD OBSERVATION. SO POLITICS SHOULD ALWAYS BE RELATED TO DHARAM, BUT NOT RELATED TO SAMPRADAYA. BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY IS THAT POLITICS HAS DEEP DEPENDENCE ON SAMPRADAYA AND SAMUDAYA, BUT HAS NO RELATION WITH DHARM. I HOPE THE ELLECTION COMMISSION REALISES THIS FACT AND ACTS ACCORDINGLY.
Karunanidhi was a non vegetarian now turned vegetarian,He also claims that the secret of his energy and success lies in yoga and daily practice keeps him young,He has married three times his wives are Mrs. Padmavathy, Mrs. Dayalu Ammal and Mrs. Rajathiammal He is enjoying as minority status and got married to 3 women.
NOW U CAN UNDERSTAND WHY HE HATES RAM, as RAM was a perfect man (Maryada Purushtam) and Karunanidhi is nothing more than a street animal who cannot control his urges, as 3 womens he has married legally and nobody knows how many he has tasted illegally.
from the immediate and pressing problems of daily life which they are incapable of solving. Ram is God to people. Full stop. Noone can question people's rights to believe and worship. So creating this unnecessary controversey was absolutelt wrong. Its not only living or dead beings, any exemplary life mythical or fictional character, need to be respected because they are a source of motivation and solace for the struggling millions. So any comments that hurt such feelings is uncivilised to say the least. With due respect to personal freedom of speech, the tongue shouldnt wag to hurt others. There should be a sense of responsibility when the mouth is opened. Freedom doesnt mean you have to eveal that you can be mad at times. The common man also must be wise enough to see through the designs. The BJP did nothing for the common people, it even didnt act like an opposition, so if it tries to whip up communal passions and forget its main duty of working fo r the good of people, they should be told not to be contractors of religion. People also should be rational. They should be aware they are destroying their own property. If we dont want the project to go on, we can say so. What is the need to destroy property and harm people? Let common sense prevail, more so among the politicians.
RE:Politicians have to turn to such issues to divert our attention
by on Sep 21, 2007 06:29 PM Permalink
ON ONE HAND YOU SAY THAT rAM IS gOD AND THERE IS NO QUESTION. FULL STOP AND PEOPLE SHOULD RESPECT THE BELIEF OF PEOPLE AND ENSURE THAT ONES FEELINGS ARE NOT HURT. AND ON OTHER HAND YOU SAY THAT THE BRIDGE BUILT BY THE SAME GOD SHOULD BE DESTROYED FOR DEVELOPMENT. WHY THESE DOUBLE STANDARDS. WHY ARE YOU SO AGAINST BJP. THEY HAVE RULED INDIA FOR 6 YEARS AND BEEN IN THE OPPOSITION FOR OVER 50 YEARS. NOTHING UNTOWARDS HAS HAPPENED SINCE. WHY DO YOU ALWAY BLAME BJP EVEN FOR THE MIDEEDS OF OTHERS. IF HUSSAIN PAINTS HINDU GODS NUDE .. BJP IS COMMUNAL IF COGRESS BENDS THE RULE FOR SHAH BANO ... BJP IS COMMUNAL IF SOME POLITICIAN AVBUSES RAM .. BJP IS COMMUNAL. WHY DO YOU THINK HINDUS CANNOT LIVE WITH SELF RESPECT IN THIS COUNTRY, ORIGINALLY MADE BY HINDUs.
RE:Hindu Tamils
by sangineersha on Sep 21, 2007 05:25 PM Permalink
Sometime u become micky mouse, some time jackson, and some time other Xistian, ur only aim is to downgrade hinduism. But Dear u will never succeed, Because child can never become father of his father, I hope u get the message.
RE:Hindu Tamils
by Jackson on Sep 21, 2007 05:27 PM Permalink
I would never degrade Hinduism .. I am a Hindu... In this particular matter I refuse to allow people to hijack Ram as a tool. Plain and SImple. Anybody following me will realise that.
I know the people who play up these issues and why they do that.
RE:Hindu Tamils
by on Sep 21, 2007 05:30 PM Permalink
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA jackson is a hindu. you have misled the people enough. now show your true colour ..
RE:Hindu Tamils
by Jackson on Sep 21, 2007 05:44 PM Permalink
eternal living .. no founder .. a way of life that society evolved for living in harmony with others and nature.
RE:Hindu Tamils
by on Sep 21, 2007 05:25 PM Permalink
history says .. all dreams started as modest as this one. but finally when achieved ... they have everyone astonished. may the god bless kumba that his dream come true soon. HA HA
RE:Hindu Tamils
by Kakhagha on Sep 21, 2007 05:45 PM Permalink
Just go through the website :Hindujagruti.com(recent issue) about the heinous atrocities carried out by Muslims on majority Hindus in your Tenkasi in the presence of impotent police. Now pls. don't consider this as a plot by BJP/VHP/RSS.
This is sheer sign of cowardness by Tamil Dravids.
Had such incident occured in UP, Bihar, Gujart or even Maharashtra, there would have been severe backlash on the Muslims.
Does your dravidian culture teaches u to tolerate injustice by the intolerant miscreants
RE:Hindu Tamils
by Jackson on Sep 21, 2007 05:48 PM Permalink
It was a family feud ... actually both were related, one side converted and had a murder case. Revenge attacks were going on regularly and it was very clearly confined to 2 families and nobody else. Definitely not a religous violence.
RAM is epitome of SOUL. One need to still his mind to experience spiritual experience. BUT for that one has to grow his spirits and cross mental barrier thru meditation. As scientific evidence loses its limit after the electron level, as u may understand after that the subparticles behave in dual manner i.e wave as well as physical so even science fails after that limit, u can read law of uncertainity. And the spiritual level is far beyond even from this level, which only human system is capable of deciphering and the present science is not even a drop in the ocean at that level.
I am an indian and I am pained at daggers being drawn in the name of God. There is no denying the fact that Lord Ram lives in hearts of millions who have the freedom of religion. To ridicule Ram is like ridiculing the faith of some, which are politicians are quite capable of.
My community, the sikhs have faced a lot of ridicule during recent Dera controversy when a small time crook tried to act like Guru Gobind Singh. Media and the so called intellectuals called sikhs as fools and tried to compare the colour of clothes and the photographs of Guru Gobind Singh to blame intolerance on sikhs. The point was that dera head ridiculed the sacred Amrit Sanchar Ceremony of Sikhs like some politicians are questioning existance of Lord Ram.
Lord Ram epitomises truth and is a dutiful son, an ideal husband and elder brother who is reliable. There can be n number of debates and counter questioning on his physical existance but ridiculing him is like blasphemy.
It pinches when somebody ridicules your faith. It really pinches me when majority enjoy by sikh jokes. Understand the pinch me dear friends.
Love your religion. Then you will respect all religions.
All show way to God. It is fight between believers and non-believers. Do not make it Hindu vs Muslim fight.
RE:Do not play with faith
by Mukul Kabra on Sep 21, 2007 05:16 PM Permalink
Well said... Some people are even trying to exploit one comment by Sangh Pramukh that Guru Gobind Singh has given references of Ram in there Book. Shame on these comunist non-nelievers....
RE:Do not play with faith
by Amandeep Singh on Sep 21, 2007 05:26 PM Permalink
There are references to Ram, Rahim, Narayan, Allah, Parmeshwar etc. in Guru Granth Sahib. All these are synonyms of God and not refering to any particular individual of particular faith.
References are there to episodes from Ramayan, Mahabharat and other ancient texts which means that people believed in them five hundred years back also.
At the same time Guru Gobind Singh also says ' Ram Rahim Puran Kuran, Anek Kahe Mat Ek Na Maniyao'
RE:Do not play with faith
by sangineersha on Sep 21, 2007 05:47 PM Permalink
Dear Amandeep, whatever r written in these spiritual books r experiences of great Yogies. What they experienced. These r only guidelines, but One has to go onthis journey himself before realising the ultimate truth and At that level every statement is correct and at the same time every statement is incorrect. You and me become one and same at that level, so Amandeep is Ram, Ram is Rahim, Rahim is Christ and Christ is Karunanidhi. The Intelligence is simply dissolved or becomes infinite.
RE:Do not play with faith
by Amandeep Singh on Sep 21, 2007 05:56 PM Permalink
Well written. I think we need to have discussion at this level rather than calling dirty names to anyone.
RE:Do not play with faith
by sangineersha on Sep 21, 2007 06:11 PM Permalink
true. But I have recently read a book by Krishnamurti and he comes with a statement that the moment Intelligence is achieved than realisation comes that there cannot be any conflict as Intelligence can communicate with other Intelligence. And with non intelligence, Intelligence looks with compassion, so Karunanidhi is a subject for Compassion from all Beleivers of GOD.
