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Govt (congress) is NOT transparent about the N-deal
by Uttamkumar Samanta on Sep 23, 2007 12:26 AM  Permalink 


I think BJP should support the deal. But problem is Govt (congress) is not trasparent
about the deal.

Moreover they even do not go for the extensive debate and vote.
That would be healthy democracy.
Joint Parliamenttary committee would be another healthy approach.
If Vajpayee or Narashimha Rao would been there, then could take most intellegent approach.
But MMShing is a puppet PM, he cann't go beyond Sonia Maino...Because she does not like BJP or
respect opposition.

Here Congress is doing some dangerous mistake and they cann't and should not say "no
international deal should pass through the parliament" What a nonsense logic ! Then
whatever other country tell India, India should
sign the deal....NOT ACCEPTABLE any time...


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Nuclear enegy
by shiva on Sep 19, 2007 06:25 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Mr Kakodkar's words are likely to fall on deaf ears, as the opponents are in a different wavelength. He has made a scientific case that leftists hardly bother.

1. We are dependent on 70% of our energy needs on imports mainly from the Middle East. That shows our present precarious position.
2. The price of oil can even hit $200 per barrel in times of uncertainties and futures are being sold at $100/barrel.
3. China has no problems in getting uranium from Australia and cooperating with US and others in areas of nuclear energy.
4. Vietnam is putting up a nuclear plant of 2000 mw with US assistance! Bangla Desh, Thailand, and even oil rich Indonesia & Malaysia are going this way. Pakistan will have no problems in getting one from their all weather friend, China.
5. We face difficulties in increasing hydro energy, while China put up Three Gorges dam to produce 18000mw.
6. France produces 75% from nuclear reactors and slated to go up with the rising oil prices. US is now getting private sector to put up nuclear plants. Uranium to power these plants are mainly from Australia & Canada.

We are running smack into an energy crunch, but our politicians are more concerned about getting elected by playing to the gallery, mainly of innocent poor people.

Those opposed to the deal owe a duty to all to put up clear ideas how we are going to meet our future needs. Let us not become another Africa, as it is called a dark continent due its man made problems.


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RE:Nuclear enegy
by v ramkumar on Sep 19, 2007 08:16 AM  Permalink
Why the likes of Mr Kakodkar is forgetting one thing in energy issue.

Everything is producing heat. We have abundant heat energy in evrey good solar power through out the year. why not tap it. There will not be any transportation cost, theft etc.

Why not we develop & mass produce solar panels which wouild be cheaper that can used for general purpose needs.

Combine all the rivers of Inda, so navigation and energy requirement for the same is cheap.

Similarly develop ocean (wave)energy, wind energy etc

Why not live peacefully without fight and make the politicians jobless.

Why the world is harping on an energy which is depletable - oil & Dangerous bye products - nuclear.

Isola Ramakumar
Varanasi

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RE:RE:Nuclear enegy
by shiva on Sep 19, 2007 12:20 PM  Permalink
Hi Ramkumar,

Solar energy is in its infancy. The renewable energy can produce at most 20% of global needs by 2050. Now it is 5%. Things will change on a breakthrough invention. Many countries and leading comapanies like Mitsubishi are trying.

For the forseable future, the world has to depend on fossil fuels. Nuclear energy is another option. Even if we do not proceed, others like China are already going full steam. Other countries like Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Bangla Desh are also going ahead.

We will be facing darkness at noon, if we are not practical and do nothing to secure our needs.

Finally, the leftists who oppose these can suggest a way out and why not implement their ideas as they are still in the govt. I will be the first to bow my head to them.

Regarding linking of rivers, it is NATO (no action, talk only). I remember thirty years ago, a big headline in the papers - Dhar/Rao Talks to urgently link Ganga, Kaveri. The talks are still going on, off and on. Both DP Dhar & KL Rao are long gone.

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RE:Nuclear enegy
by Kabothi Kumar on Sep 19, 2007 07:10 AM  Permalink
The commies get hefty payments from china, to stop India from developing. If any industry sprouts up, they'll form trade unions and destroy the industry before forming. Are there ANY trade unions in China? Slavery still exists in all Manufacturing plants in China. Commies (with help from China) will take us back to the 17th Century.

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RE:RE:Nuclear enegy
by shiva on Sep 19, 2007 07:32 AM  Permalink
Their theories are for losers only. The states ruled by them became bankrupt of industries. One after the other the companies closed, even govt owned in Kerala. The people just left to keep body and soul together, leaving their families and some became strangers in their own homes later. A frail old foreign woman brought Kolkata to international attention for the work that our heros hardly bothered. Keralites worked in inhuman conditions in Middle East and even faced the wrath of Bal Saheb in their own country.

China's communism is based on reward for hard work that transformed their country. Ours is based on opposing without offering any solution. In opposition or better still, oppose from within, without any accountability. They return to the poor electorates every few years having brought down the govt, their only achievement.

It is a good life for them, but not for others!

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RE:Nuclear enegy
by v reddy on Sep 19, 2007 07:53 AM  Permalink
Hi Shiva,
very well said,I admire you for your comments.Are you in India or working abroad,Can I know your profession?

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RE:Nuclear enegy
by shiva on Sep 19, 2007 12:03 PM  Permalink
Hi Reddy,

I am presently working overseas. I am a chartered accountant, who tried to make a living in India years back, but left reluctantly to make a living overseas.
I worked in Kerala and as you might have guessed that govt company is closed by union action for many years. It is one of almost all.

Believe it ot not, 90% of all the senior managers' time was spent on putting out the fire, ie attending to labour actions on the flimsiest of grounds. They even went to the extent of trying to finish off the MD and yours faithfully was in the car. Though not a target, I escaped with injuries. I was later taunted in the court by total strangers when the case was called up. Though nobody died, it would not have matterd anyway.

I have watched from close quarters how our leftists work. They are no different from others, as I remember one leader twisted the arm of MD to get his brother a job.

I cannot understand how we are going to solve our energy problems while the Chinese communists are so practical to host Olympics, year end Tennis Masters etc. They have the full range of American capitalist icons even in Tianamen Square and in the heart of Beijing.

We deserve much better.



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Nuclear power an inevitable option: Kakodkar
by keshav kumar on Sep 19, 2007 05:37 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The N-deal makes no sense.It only aims to cap India's Nuke capablity.When we do not have money to exploit cheaper sources for power generation then how can we invest more in atomic power plants.The agreement as per prints in News Papers is offering nothing of use to India. All those defending the deal are just towing the PM's line.PM has made a disastrous deal for India and it is not defensible as it harms India's defense capablity.
Those who have made the deal need to tell us what is there for India in it ? The excuse of electric power generation is total nonsense as it is simply not true.
K.K.Vaisoha

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RE:Nuclear power an inevitable option: Kakodkar
by babu on Sep 19, 2007 06:34 AM  Permalink
If every Indian is ready for to not use any type of Electric Power for himself for 120 minutes every day then we can solve the power problem in India also.
With Unity we Indians can solve all problems one by one.

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RE:Nuclear power an inevitable option: Kakodkar
by abcd efg on Sep 19, 2007 06:27 AM  Permalink
we dont really hav any worthwhile nuclear capability.

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Bomb JNU..save the country from the left
by Truth Seeker on Sep 19, 2007 03:50 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Bomb the JNU..the nurturing ground of the commies! hang Prakash Karat in public for treason.

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RE:Bomb JNU..save the country from the left
by Vladimir Stalin on Sep 19, 2007 06:47 AM  Permalink
Very rightly said. J.N.U. is a breeding ground for naxalites, jihadis and other anti-national forces. It should be closed down.

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RE:RE:Bomb JNU..save the country from the left
by Vladimir Stalin on Sep 19, 2007 06:50 AM  Permalink
Prakash Karat and Sitaram Yechury are products of this madarsa called J.N.U. Sitaram Yechury used to travel by Toyota car carrying his pomeranian pet during the time he was a `student' of J.N.U. and get down about 100 yards before this terrorist breeding ground and walk the remaining distance.

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Leftist your master is helping your cause
by Pandu Havaldar 61-62 on Sep 19, 2007 03:17 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Read what china is upto

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/US_sees_China_quietly_working_to_halt_N-deal/articleshow/2381653.cms



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RE:Leftist your master is helping your cause
by Thirumaleshwara Bhat on Sep 19, 2007 05:48 AM  Permalink
Are Karat and Co. part of this sinister lobby?

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RE:RE:Leftist your master is helping your cause
by Krishna on Sep 19, 2007 07:59 AM  Permalink
I am sure they would be. Otherwise, they would be throwing a spanner into this deal

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RE:RE:RE:Leftist your master is helping your cause
by Krishna on Sep 19, 2007 08:02 AM  Permalink
I am sure they would be. Otherwise, they wouldn't be throwing a spanner into this deal

ihateysr at blog spot dot com



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Use gobar gas
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 19, 2007 02:11 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Lessen dependency on OIL and Uranium which foriegn powers will use to take away our independence and convert everyone in the country. We will also dung of only Indian born and bred cows to ensure protection of our faith.

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RE:Use gobar gas
by Pandu Havaldar 61-62 on Sep 19, 2007 02:20 AM  Permalink
Hmmm. Good work starts from you. Pull-up your socks and start collecting

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RE:RE:Use gobar gas
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 19, 2007 08:31 AM  Permalink
My 2 MW power plant in my septic tank is part of the national grid. No other place produces more bullshit.

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RE:Use gobar gas
by abcd efg on Sep 19, 2007 06:30 AM  Permalink
btw, cow dung seems to hav anti radiation characteristics and multiple uses. it is surely the best option.

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Thank God India is finally waking up to what America's intent is
by amol on Sep 19, 2007 12:40 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Please read AMERICA INVADES INDIA.. written in 2005 by a brilliant IIT graduate..who researched the whole subject of what America's game plan for the world is...Visit www.americainvadesindia.com

We have come a long way on our own... We dont need the Americans... without American help we will be ahead of them in just 20 years...

That is the undercurrent of this deal... Kakodkar is a nice enough man...but his
arguments are flawed...I would love to interview him on national tv and will make him confess that he is out of his depth on this one...Watch this space...

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RE:Thank God India is finally waking up to what America's intent is
by ravi on Sep 19, 2007 02:01 AM  Permalink
I don't understand this f>

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RE:Thank God India is finally waking up to what America's intent is
by ravi on Sep 19, 2007 02:02 AM  Permalink
I don't understand this f>

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RE:Thank God India is finally waking up to what America's intent is
by Blaster on Sep 19, 2007 01:36 AM  Permalink
Can you answer me first of all? Open debate in in rediff now.

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RE:Thank God India is finally waking up to what America's intent is
by Blaster on Sep 19, 2007 01:39 AM  Permalink
I believe you an a$$hole

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RE:Thank God India is finally waking up to what America's intent is
by ravi on Sep 19, 2007 02:03 AM  Permalink
I don't understand this problz3mdeem. US attacks IRAQ, IRAN or whatever...IS that our buiseness? Does china bothers abt that?
Noooooooo
Let us mind our business like china does and do things which are good for our country

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RE:Thank God India is finally waking up to what America's intent is
by sudhanshu singh on Sep 19, 2007 07:34 AM  Permalink
Is China who occupied 36oooo sq Km of Indian territory and claiming Arunanchal Pradesh of its own and supporting Pak for an all out waragainst India. Americe even during cold war time when India was with Russia nver did any wrong against India and allowed its people to come Americe and flourish there.

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