Ram is like spiderman. Ramayana is like Batman movie script or james bond adventure on celluloid screen.
No spiderman and batman can be real things. Stories are always stories, no matter how much sentiments and scripts are involved. One has to take birth and die, if they got to real. Anything and everything is fake , if that thing do not have time stamp, or no history or antiquity.
None of Hindu god ever existed historically or in reality.
Recently India win many sports games due to chak de, it doesn't mean Shahrukh khan is real in that game. he was only a role model. But now many people think he is great. In real life shahrukh khan may not be able to do anything.
One more Tamil movie saved one family by reuniting. Movies bring values, so does mythological gods. But it doesn't mean those movies are real or those gods are real. It is just matter of make believe psychological aspect of our brain. Similary Ram has been stuffed in our blood since ages right from our child hood, so everything feels attached to him, but it necessarily doesn't make him real.
Same goes in West, many kids and big adults send letter to Santaclaus and feels that theywill get present in night. Lakhs of mails are sent to Santa claus in heaven in hope of getting good luck. Sentiments are same in west too. We can say Santa claus and Ram, or Hanuman or spiderma are all manifestation of certain character. Nothing else..
More you involve your self sentimentally more you loose your brain to think in right away..
Today Ram and other imaginary gods are in the hearts, in brain of hindu crowd, but it doesn't change their fortune or living style. It is your own karma (believe in work), which can help you grow. These gods will not rescue you anywhere. If Ram was real probably India would have been least in crime, corruption, but today india is one among highest in world. Today HIV postive cases are highest in world. If god help us then
1) Follow all colorful gods 2) Imaginations are reality 3) Sentiments and infatuation is truth of life 4) Believe in Mythological Vimanas & Ammunition Agni Baan , (though we need collob with Suzuki & Bofors),
even vedas devised many techy things million years ago.But hindus still use bullock carts. 5) No questions required for sentiments. 6) Sacrfice Animals to make god and goddess happy. 7) All gods can marry many times , their private life becomes sacred for believers 8) Casteism is must, Only who born from brahma's head are superior, rest must serve them. 9) Any number of gods can be created, reincarnated and manifested even with wood, rope etc. 10) Women , Shudras are biggest threat to Hinduism 11) Shudras not allowed in temple. 12) Must make all the gods drink milk 13) Offering pedas, laddus will bring good luck, can get lottery or gain laxmi in job / business. 14) Never make any god angry. 15) Agree to brahmins, even if they lie it is god's word must be agreed to. 16) believe in Ram flyover 17M years ago 17) believe in Ram flyover 5114 bce ago. 18) believe that Sanskrit and hinduism is 17 M years old. 19) Indus valley history belonged to Aryans, though they never existed before 3K years here. 20) Any good people on earth is either avatar of Vishnu or Brahma. 21) Claim anything good as part of hinduism (using Vedic paint brush) 22) All the religions in the world are offshoot of hinduism though it was named by foreigners 200 years ago.
RE:RE:Dravidians are never hindus
by Converted Brahmin forU URF on Nov 28, 2007 07:27 AM Permalink
Lie lie and lie, Pollution is because of brahminism and casteism.
Myth behind North Indian Hindu gods and South Indian Hindu gods, exposed. -----------------------------------------
Mostly dravid Tamilians worship gods which are converted from Samanar(dravid religion as per Archaeologists). Eg: thiruvalluvar(Samanar saint very popular in dravid history before hindu came in south india), Varadaperumal(vardhman swamy),Thrilognathar perumal (thirthankar), Chandramouliswar (chandraprabhu), Venkateshwara(Neminath), Siva( Lord adinath, or Arugar swamy),Meenakshi(padmavati), Arunachaleswarar ( Adi Bhagwan, Arugular later named as Siva-dravid god) Kamakshi(padmavati), Nagarajar Perumal(appandai,parsvanath). These are real historical facts with historic and archaeological evidences which will not really go well with Aryan/brahmnic dominated history. All the Dravidian temples are today under the control of Brahmins and so called self defined upper class Hindus. This is no story or bullshi*t, but real history revealed by modern unbiased historians (with facts) who explored and excavated origin of dravids. If superficial cover, jewellary and extra fittings are removed from these fake gods,only Samanar/dravid gods will be discovered. Samanar religion (worshipping nude gods) is 5000 years old , it was very popular with dravidians.
In all South Indian Hindus gods are mostly converted , renamed from dravid gods which they worshipped since last 5000 years till 10th century A.D. Later got into hands of brahmins to be named with avatars.
It might be tempting to laugh off the Indus script hoax as the harmless fantasy of an ex-engineer who pretends to be a world expert on everything from artificial intelligence to Christianity to Harappan culture.
What belies this reading is the ugly subtext of Rajaram's message, which is aimed at millions of Indian readers. That message is anti-Muslim, anti-Christian, anti-Indological, and (despite claims to the opposite) intensely anti-scientific. Those views pr esent twisted images of India's past capable of inflicting severe damage in the present.
Rajaram's work is only one example of a broader reactionary trend in Indian history. Movements like this can sometimes be seen more clearly from afar than nearby, and we conclude with a few comments on it from our outside but interested perspective.
In the past few decades, a new kind of history has been propagated by a vocal group of Indian writers, few of them trained historians, who lavishly praise and support each other's works. Their aim is to rewrite Indian history from a nationalistic and rel igious point of view. Their writings have special appeal to a new middle class confused by modern threats to traditional values. With alarming frequency their movement is backed by powerful political forces, lending it a mask of respectability that it do es not deserve.
Unquestionably, all sides of Indian history must be repeatedly re-examined. But any massive revisions must arise from the
RE:Rewriting history by vedic frauds
by Ramasubbu on Oct 11, 2007 02:45 PM Permalink
contd... But any massive revisions must arise from the discovery of new evidence, not from desires to boost national or sectarian pride at any cost. Any new historical models must be cons istent with all available data judged apart from parochial concerns. N.S. Rajaram typifies the worst of the "revisionist" movement, and obviously fails on all counts. The Deciphered Indus Script is based on blatantly fake data (the "horse seal," the free-form "decipherments"); disregards numerous well-known facts ( the dates of horses and chariots, the uses of Harappan seals, etc.); rejects evidence from whole scientific fields, including linguistics (a strange exclusion for a would-be decipherer!); and is driven by obvious religious and political motives in claimi ng impossible links between Harappan and Vedic cultures.
Whatever their pretensions, Hindutva propagandists like Rajaram do not belong to the realm of legitimate historical discourse. They perpetuate, in twisted half-modern ways, medieval tendencies to use every means possible to support the authority of relig ious texts. In the political sphere, they falsify history to bolster national pride. In the ethnic realm, they glorify one sector of India to the detriment of others.
It is the responsibility of every serious researcher to oppose these tendencies with the only sure weapon available - hard evidence. If reactionary trends in Indian history find further political support, we risk seeing violent repeats in the coming dec
RE:RE:Rewriting history by vedic frauds
by Ramasubbu on Oct 11, 2007 02:50 PM Permalink
contd... we risk seeing violent repeats in the coming deca des of the fascist extremes of the past.
The historical fantasies of writers like Rajaram must be exposed for what they are: propaganda issuing from the ugliest corners of the pre-scientific mind. The fact that many of the most unbelievable of these fantasies are the product of highly trained e ngineers should give Indian educational planners deep concern.
In a recent online exchange, Rajaram dismissed criticisms of his faked "horse seal" and pointed to political friends in high places, boasting that the Union government had recently "advised" the "National Book Trust to bring out my popular book, From Sarasvati River to the Indus Script, in English and thirteen other languages."
We fear for India and for objective scholarship. To quote Rajaram's Harappan-Vedic one last time: "A great disgrace indeed!
Sankrit did not figure among oldest languages. Sankrit being very modern phenomenon and latest among all historical languages. So how Ram of 17 million years old era can be related with Sankrit or Vedic era. There is only one possibility either Ram exist or Sankrit/vedic culture existed. if Sandkrit/vedic existed then Ram was for sure a imaginary character which was never a reality. (Vedic blunder)
Ugaritic 15th c. BC Proto-Canaanite 14th c. BC Phoenician 11th c. BC Paleo-Hebrew 10th c. BC Aramaic 8th c. BC Brahmi & Indus Harappan 6th c. BC Tibetan 7th c. Khmer/Javanese 9th c. Hebrew 3rd c. BC Syriac 2nd c. BC Nabatean 2nd c. BC Arabic 4th c. Pahlavi 3nd c. BC Avestan 4th c. Greek 9th c. BC Etruscan 8th c. BC Latin 7th c. BC Runes 2nd c. Ogham 4th c. Gothic 3th c. Armenian 405 Glagolitic 862 Cyrillic 10th c. Samaritan 6th c. BC Iberian 4th c. BC
RE:NO ram no sanskrit theory proves no Ram
by Ramasubbu on Oct 14, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
Hinduism is 500 years old. Vedic Religion is 2000 years old. Saivism and Jainism are 5000 years and above old- only Dravid religion.
Origin of Sankrit is Lativia, so probably Ram was born in lativia. compare Lativian language with Sanskrit, almost same. Aryan Gypsies bought Ram and Sanskrit to India 2000 years ago.
Ram is from Lativia, if at all he exists- if he spoke sanskrit.
RE:NO ram no sanskrit theory proves no Ram
by Veda Purana Complete Lie Historical Blunder on Nov 23, 2007 02:32 AM Permalink
Dr Charles , an American scholar says that it is very simple to define a Hindu. He says a Hindu means "one who believes in anything and everything if said in the name of god and shall never question its authenticity".
The Brahmins claim that Lord Rama is incarnated (came in human form) to study and understand the difficulties of mankind. Is it really necessary for a god to incarnate Himself?? CAn he not understand the creation? Why should God become a donkey or a cockroach in order to understand the sufferings of these creatures?
f ocus on this and forget Ram. Think of present Ravanas, we can all become Ram , if we can fight corrution in our country from this govt sponsored mafia. Ghooskhori, kamchori, Muftkhori are three big Ravanas with three heads. Can you burn these Ravanas?
Unnecessarily dragging disney characters like Hanuman, Vanar, Spiderman, superman etc..
Let us be proud of most corrupt country in world where Ram existed 400 million years ago. Today our babus(30 million Ravanas) take away hefty 200,000 Crores INR from public.
RE:Where is Ram to protect us from Ravana (indian criminal police)
by bigfacts on Sep 24, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
http://www.complaintsboard.com/ complaints/india-police-c24936.html
RE:I believe in everything !!!
by Ramasubbu on Oct 10, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
Nice one, We indians are mocked in whole world because of these vedic frauds.
Re: RE:I believe in everything !!!
by ramsubbu thegenius on Apr 08, 2015 07:35 PM Permalink
What about the findings of Dwaraka? What about the mention of River Saraswati? What about the mentioning of melting of Ice age? what about the kurukshetra war evidence dating back to 2800 BCE? these have also been mentioned in the same Vedas you just spit about. And the same ASI team have proved its existence with carbon dating back to the respective years. Well, wait lemme think. DO you even happen to know these discoveries happened in the past years. when you can be ignorant about so many things happening around you and not questioning about it and why the discoveries have been abruptly stopped by the government or just neglected, well, I am not surprised. Cause " People will prefer to choose false ideas. No one will be able to trust anyone else. Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power." have also been mentioned in the Vedas. no wonder u think we are mocked, not by the vedic frauds u call it but by your own ignorance or conclusiveness on everything. while you sit in your couch, eat noodles and just form all this theory swamy genius lemme also add "Pre-cooked food will be readily available!" also from Veda. Eat and fart. good luck
Re: RE:I believe in everything !!!
by ramsubbu thegenius on Apr 08, 2015 07:35 PM Permalink
What about the findings of Dwaraka? What about the mention of River Saraswati? What about the mentioning of melting of Ice age? what about the kurukshetra war evidence dating back to 2800 BCE? these have also been mentioned in the same Vedas you just spit about. And the same ASI team have proved its existence with carbon dating back to the respective years. Well, wait lemme think. DO you even happen to know these discoveries happened in the past years. when you can be ignorant about so many things happening around you and not questioning about it and why the discoveries have been abruptly stopped by the government or just neglected, well, I am not surprised. Cause " People will prefer to choose false ideas. No one will be able to trust anyone else. Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power." have also been mentioned in the Vedas. no wonder u think we are mocked, not by the vedic frauds u call it but by your own ignorance or conclusiveness on everything. while you sit in your couch, eat noodles and just form all this theory swamy genius lemme also add "Pre-cooked food will be readily available!" also from Veda. Eat and fart. good luck
Re: RE:I believe in everything !!!
by ramsubbu thegenius on Apr 08, 2015 07:35 PM Permalink
What about the findings of Dwaraka? What about the mention of River Saraswati? What about the mentioning of melting of Ice age? what about the kurukshetra war evidence dating back to 2800 BCE? these have also been mentioned in the same Vedas you just spit about. And the same ASI team have proved its existence with carbon dating back to the respective years. Well, wait lemme think. DO you even happen to know these discoveries happened in the past years. when you can be ignorant about so many things happening around you and not questioning about it and why the discoveries have been abruptly stopped by the government or just neglected, well, I am not surprised. Cause " People will prefer to choose false ideas. No one will be able to trust anyone else. Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power." have also been mentioned in the Vedas. no wonder u think we are mocked, not by the vedic frauds u call it but by your own ignorance or conclusiveness on everything. while you sit in your couch, eat noodles and just form all this theory swamy genius lemme also add "Pre-cooked food will be readily available!" also from Veda. Eat and fart. good luck
Re: RE:I believe in everything !!!
by ramsubbu thegenius on Apr 08, 2015 07:36 PM Permalink
What about the findings of Dwaraka? What about the mention of River Saraswati? What about the mentioning of melting of Ice age? what about the kurukshetra war evidence dating back to 2800 BCE? these have also been mentioned in the same Vedas you just spit about. And the same ASI team have proved its existence with carbon dating back to the respective years. Well, wait lemme think. DO you even happen to know these discoveries happened in the past years. when you can be ignorant about so many things happening around you and not questioning about it and why the discoveries have been abruptly stopped by the government or just neglected, well, I am not surprised. Cause " People will prefer to choose false ideas. No one will be able to trust anyone else. Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power." have also been mentioned in the Vedas. no wonder u think we are mocked, not by the vedic frauds u call it but by your own ignorance or conclusiveness on everything. while you sit in your couch, eat noodles and just form all this theory swamy genius lemme also add "Pre-cooked food will be readily available!" also from Veda. Eat and fart. good luck
Re: RE:I believe in everything !!!
by ramsubbu thegenius on Apr 08, 2015 07:36 PM Permalink
What about the findings of Dwaraka? What about the mention of River Saraswati? What about the mentioning of melting of Ice age? what about the kurukshetra war evidence dating back to 2800 BCE? these have also been mentioned in the same Vedas you just spit about. And the same ASI team have proved its existence with carbon dating back to the respective years. Well, wait lemme think. DO you even happen to know these discoveries happened in the past years. when you can be ignorant about so many things happening around you and not questioning about it and why the discoveries have been abruptly stopped by the government or just neglected, well, I am not surprised. Cause " People will prefer to choose false ideas. No one will be able to trust anyone else. Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power." have also been mentioned in the Vedas. no wonder u think we are mocked, not by the vedic frauds u call it but by your own ignorance or conclusiveness on everything. while you sit in your couch, eat noodles and just form all this theory swamy genius lemme also add "Pre-cooked food will be readily available!" also from Veda. Eat and fart. good luck
Re: RE:I believe in everything !!!
by ramsubbu thegenius on Apr 08, 2015 07:36 PM Permalink
What about the findings of Dwaraka? What about the mention of River Saraswati? What about the mentioning of melting of Ice age? what about the kurukshetra war evidence dating back to 2800 BCE? these have also been mentioned in the same Vedas you just spit about. And the same ASI team have proved its existence with carbon dating back to the respective years. Well, wait lemme think. DO you even happen to know these discoveries happened in the past years. when you can be ignorant about so many things happening around you and not questioning about it and why the discoveries have been abruptly stopped by the government or just neglected, well, I am not surprised. Cause " People will prefer to choose false ideas. No one will be able to trust anyone else. Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power." have also been mentioned in the Vedas. no wonder u think we are mocked, not by the vedic frauds u call it but by your own ignorance or conclusiveness on everything. while you sit in your couch, eat noodles and just form all this theory swamy genius lemme also add "Pre-cooked food will be readily available!" also from Veda. Eat and fart. good luck
Re: RE:I believe in everything !!!
by ramsubbu thegenius on Apr 08, 2015 07:36 PM Permalink
What about the findings of Dwaraka? What about the mention of River Saraswati? What about the mentioning of melting of Ice age? what about the kurukshetra war evidence dating back to 2800 BCE? these have also been mentioned in the same Vedas you just spit about. And the same ASI team have proved its existence with carbon dating back to the respective years. Well, wait lemme think. DO you even happen to know these discoveries happened in the past years. when you can be ignorant about so many things happening around you and not questioning about it and why the discoveries have been abruptly stopped by the government or just neglected, well, I am not surprised. Cause " People will prefer to choose false ideas. No one will be able to trust anyone else. Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power." have also been mentioned in the Vedas. no wonder u think we are mocked, not by the vedic frauds u call it but by your own ignorance or conclusiveness on everything. while you sit in your couch, eat noodles and just form all this theory swamy genius lemme also add "Pre-cooked food will be readily available!" also from Veda. Eat and fart. good luck
Re: RE:I believe in everything !!!
by ramsubbu thegenius on Apr 08, 2015 07:36 PM Permalink
What about the findings of Dwaraka? What about the mention of River Saraswati? What about the mentioning of melting of Ice age? what about the kurukshetra war evidence dating back to 2800 BCE? these have also been mentioned in the same Vedas you just spit about. And the same ASI team have proved its existence with carbon dating back to the respective years. Well, wait lemme think. DO you even happen to know these discoveries happened in the past years. when you can be ignorant about so many things happening around you and not questioning about it and why the discoveries have been abruptly stopped by the government or just neglected, well, I am not surprised. Cause " People will prefer to choose false ideas. No one will be able to trust anyone else. Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power." have also been mentioned in the Vedas. no wonder u think we are mocked, not by the vedic frauds u call it but by your own ignorance or conclusiveness on everything. while you sit in your couch, eat noodles and just form all this theory swamy genius lemme also add "Pre-cooked food will be readily available!" also from Veda. Eat and fart. good luck
Re: RE:I believe in everything !!!
by ramsubbu thegenius on Apr 08, 2015 07:36 PM Permalink
What about the findings of Dwaraka? What about the mention of River Saraswati? What about the mentioning of melting of Ice age? what about the kurukshetra war evidence dating back to 2800 BCE? these have also been mentioned in the same Vedas you just spit about. And the same ASI team have proved its existence with carbon dating back to the respective years. Well, wait lemme think. DO you even happen to know these discoveries happened in the past years. when you can be ignorant about so many things happening around you and not questioning about it and why the discoveries have been abruptly stopped by the government or just neglected, well, I am not surprised. Cause " People will prefer to choose false ideas. No one will be able to trust anyone else. Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power." have also been mentioned in the Vedas. no wonder u think we are mocked, not by the vedic frauds u call it but by your own ignorance or conclusiveness on everything. while you sit in your couch, eat noodles and just form all this theory swamy genius lemme also add "Pre-cooked food will be readily available!" also from Veda. Eat and fart. good luck
Re: RE:I believe in everything !!!
by ramsubbu thegenius on Apr 08, 2015 07:36 PM Permalink
What about the findings of Dwaraka? What about the mention of River Saraswati? What about the mentioning of melting of Ice age? what about the kurukshetra war evidence dating back to 2800 BCE? these have also been mentioned in the same Vedas you just spit about. And the same ASI team have proved its existence with carbon dating back to the respective years. Well, wait lemme think. DO you even happen to know these discoveries happened in the past years. when you can be ignorant about so many things happening around you and not questioning about it and why the discoveries have been abruptly stopped by the government or just neglected, well, I am not surprised. Cause " People will prefer to choose false ideas. No one will be able to trust anyone else. Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power." have also been mentioned in the Vedas. no wonder u think we are mocked, not by the vedic frauds u call it but by your own ignorance or conclusiveness on everything. while you sit in your couch, eat noodles and just form all this theory swamy genius lemme also add "Pre-cooked food will be readily available!" also from Veda. Eat and fart. good luck
Re: RE:I believe in everything !!!
by ramsubbu thegenius on Apr 08, 2015 07:36 PM Permalink
What about the findings of Dwaraka? What about the mention of River Saraswati? What about the mentioning of melting of Ice age? what about the kurukshetra war evidence dating back to 2800 BCE? these have also been mentioned in the same Vedas you just spit about. And the same ASI team have proved its existence with carbon dating back to the respective years. Well, wait lemme think. DO you even happen to know these discoveries happened in the past years. when you can be ignorant about so many things happening around you and not questioning about it and why the discoveries have been abruptly stopped by the government or just neglected, well, I am not surprised. Cause " People will prefer to choose false ideas. No one will be able to trust anyone else. Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power." have also been mentioned in the Vedas. no wonder u think we are mocked, not by the vedic frauds u call it but by your own ignorance or conclusiveness on everything. while you sit in your couch, eat noodles and just form all this theory swamy genius lemme also add "Pre-cooked food will be readily available!" also from Veda. Eat and fart. good luck
RE:Can we build another bridge using monkey sena
by bigfacts on Sep 20, 2007 12:01 AM Permalink
Oh yeah , I have 10 flyovers to be constructed in New Delhi, We may need around 5000 Vanar sena to finish this job. Probably another 3000 Vanar Sena to construct Metro in Mumbai..LOL
