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Political leaders
by Gopalakrishnan V on Sep 21, 2007 08:07 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Why some winners of election abuse selectively symbols of a major religion or sentiments of followers of a majority faith while they do not say anything blasphemous about other religions which are followed by minority in our country? The election winners have been hurt by educated followers of their own religion very recently branding them as belonging to BARBER's caste and by their looks and their lack of being modern for a long time. They have a good following in their region and most of them have the same hurt. So the election winners who have been supported caste wise feel they can do whatever is WRONG in their own reasoning. Every time some one says he has committed blasphemy he is emboldened to say more as he knows his design is working. Such people are downright cowards as they have sought more support of people belonging to other religions by giving them religion based reservation to get their supports increase. With their own evolution in linguistic literature they definitely understand that poor people from these so called ...castes deserve a better deal. Ideally human beings who are endowed with deep sense of leterature are highly sensitive. But why these ones are not? The hurt is very deep that if they are allowed to plunder the entire mass of the so called ... caste whether they are really responsible or not and get away with it they will definitley do it as the power has gone to their head and literature has not mellowed them down. Only possible change is their

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RE:Political leaders
by Marco Polo on Sep 22, 2007 01:40 AM  Permalink
If you say something against Hindu belief,then you are a secular(sickular) person.

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RE:PERIYAAR 2
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 21, 2007 08:08 PM  Permalink
@ avinash

don't get baited by these low life, paid anti-Hindu, hate mongers.

They are trying to Denigrate your faith and then point out how YOU are rude, etc.

Use your intelligence to deal with these total ignoramus, who only know how to follow the commands of their masters - the padre/mullas.

Look at the crap he is posting just to get you to start name calling.

These guys want you spend all your energy on these boards, while they queitly go about prosletyising (bribing/ initmitading to convert)
while you are yelling here.

Be smart. Don't let this scum push you around and divide the Hindus.

That is what all this is about.

They will do this till they are in the marority and then you will see thier TRUE colors as in the Northwest/Kashmir.

Jai Hind

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RE:PERIYAAR 2
by Albert on Sep 21, 2007 09:10 PM  Permalink
Mr. Mittal,
once a historian said that Hinduism and its belief which are less scienntific and unreasonable some of superstition, could not compete with Chritanism or Islam.
Both of them converted only the rotten ones thrown away from hindu basket.
They preached love and you preach hate
You are all messiah of hate
You never allow a lower caste to temple and you want a monopoly of this aryan religion

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RE:PERIYAAR 1
by kumud gosavi on Sep 21, 2007 08:31 PM  Permalink
Mr. Maran, mind your tounge and your language. What are you trying to say? Dont ignite our beliefs and If you are so concerned about the countrie's development, go ahead and work rather than writing abuse on this message board.

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RE:PERIYAAR 1
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 22, 2007 08:09 AM  Permalink
@ avinash

don't get baited by these low life, paid anti-Hindu, hate mongers.

They are trying to Denigrate your faith and then point out how YOU are rude, etc.

Use your intelligence to deal with these total ignoramus, who only know how to follow the commands of their masters - the padre/mullas.

Look at the crap he is posting just to get you to start name calling.

These guys want you spend all your energy on these boards, while they queitly go about prosletyising (bribing/ initmitading to convert)
while you are yelling here.

Be smart. Don't let this scum push you around and divide the Hindus.

That is what all this is about.

They will do this till they are in the marority and then you will see thier TRUE colors as in the Northwest/Kashmir.

Jai Hind




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RE:PERIYAAR 1
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 22, 2007 10:55 PM  Permalink
@ Mr. Albert

There are poeple on this board who are so full of hate and fear that they are not able to talk/write coherently. All I hear them do is to Defile, degrade and denigrate the Hindu faith and when the Hindus respond (sometimes over zealously) they then pount fingers implying that being a proud Hindu, as I am, is somehow akin to being "radical". I DO NOT accept attacks on my faith and will defend it with whatever means.
So, when they get rebuffed then they follow the path of the "blaem game" with selective memory loss towards the atrocities perpetuated by the semetic faiths

My experience from talking to missionaries recently is that they feel that
ALL the Hindus are at fault for everything that is wrong in India.
Do YOU think that this is true?

I hope that yoru attempts at recocilition are not fake as your arguments above.
I have quoted what YOU said and replied to it.

Pray tell me, when you talk about "secure jobs", how many of Sonia Maino's close advisors(who run this nation) are non-christians?

Do you really think that the Hindus are that foolish so that they will fall for your slanted views?





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RE:RE:PERIYAAR 1
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 22, 2007 08:18 AM  Permalink
This message is is one I wanted to reply to

RE:PERIYAAR 2
by Albert on Sep 21, 2007 09:10 PM
Mr. Mittal,
once a historian said that Hinduism and its belief which are less scienntific and unreasonable some of superstition, could not compete with Chritanism or Islam.
Both of them converted only the rotten ones thrown away from hindu basket.
They preached love and you preach hate
You are all messiah of hate
You never allow a lower caste to temple and you want a monopoly of this aryan religion

TO answer your questions Albert see below.

1. The most proposterous "historian" that you quote no doubt is someone like Max mueller who I will talk about below.
You and he say that Hindu Sahatra are least scientific.
This is exactly the opposite. the semetic religions all preach of a "hell" or " Heaven" that has NEVER been verified by ANY of its followers and so is that not what is called BLIND BELIEF or DOGMA.
Just because the padre/mulla says IT AIN"T SO.

On htis board itself someone has taken the pains to elucidate how the Sasthra have delianated flight, missile etc. all from Hindu books.
Imagine that. WOW real science instead of the fear complex instilled into you.

cont'd

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RE:RE:RE:PERIYAAR 1
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 22, 2007 08:30 AM  Permalink
contd'@ Albert

You say "Chritanism or Islam.
Both of them converted only the rotten ones thrown away from hindu basket.
They preached love and you preach hate"

Maybe you need to jog your memory about the "Crusades" and the spread by the sword throughout Arabia of the Semetic faiths . This is Western history that I am talking about not some fake propoganda cooked up by the proslytisers who managed to fool you.

Further, you said "You never allow a lower caste to temple and you want a monopoly of this aryan religion

Tell me why the Christians in Tamil Nadu have different seats, churhes, burial gounds for converts from different levels of society.

Do you know what VARNA is?

The British and subsequent manipulators used "caste" to divide the Hindus and they did create significant discord among the people, which is being corrected.
I wonder if this was done out LOOVVVEE for the masses(must have been soem love that I don't understand or know about to make people fight and then say that mine is a faith of love or peace)

Action speak much louder than words here.

About this b.s "Aryan Invasion" theory, it was concocted my Max Mueller, whose greatest regret was that India did not "come to Christ".
Further, geentic studies have conclusively proved that the genes of the Indian subpopulation ARE NOT MATCHED with these so called Aryan invaders.

Again another pathetic attempt at lying, cheating to destroy Hindu faith.

Wow a "reliigon of love and of peace"

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RE:PERIYAAR 1
by Albert on Sep 22, 2007 02:17 PM  Permalink
So you want to follow whatever you've learned from the crusade centuries ago, and want to take your turn today when there is lot of reconciliation among faiths and more teachings from leaders like Gandhi, Periyar.
What Im trying to tell you is the preaching hatred is mostly done by your rajgurus like LK Advani Singhal Togadia and Modi. Each time they open their mouth there will be dead bodies everywhere.
Lets take Advaniji, He is an atom bomb from pakistan to destroy India.
He does the same job as ISI has in its mind (division of people)
Today most of the upper class hindus like you have a feeling of insecurity in your mind because of your less number.
So a troubled country and bloodshed among the majority backward classes make your life secure (job easier),
otherwise a religiously inspied person will never have this amount of blood thirst
It's not pointed againgt you exactly but the entire upper class is to blame.
I have Brahmin friends who are very broadminded
and sometimes their mind corrupted seeing some RSS fellows.
I've never seen much of divisins in church seats and burial in my part, but in a reddia christian communities in northern tamil nadu practice this and I don't really appriciate it,
May be christianity never touched them the it should have been.

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What a great culture? Who dares to compete? part 2
by Mani Maaran on Sep 21, 2007 07:47 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


News Agency reports that at Kurushetra (India) about
1,000 NAKED Hindu "Sadhus" (saints) plunged themselves into the river during a
solar eclipse, claiming this to be a "holy dip". Over one million pilgrims,
naked and semi-naked, both male and female, also followed them into the river.
The largest of the pools is Brahmasarovar, and is said to accommodate 100,000
bathers at a time. There was still no room for everyone in the
water at one time and there was much pushing and shoving. The huge crowds
waiting on the banks barely had space to turn around. People crowded the shore
waiting for their chance. This is the position of "holy dip" everywhere in
India. A haryana Government spokesman said that they posted 20,000 policemen to
avoid misuse of this mixing opportunity for perverted reasons.
In addition to this spectacle, the pilgrims also look directly at the sun with
the naked eye. Scientists and doctors strongly advise against this as it is
likely to cause blindness.


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RE:What a great culture? Who dares to compete? part 2
by Ganesh on Sep 22, 2007 05:17 PM  Permalink
Oh god forgive Maran, Karuna and their ilk for they know not what shit they are talking?

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RE:What a great culture? Who dares to compete? part 2
by Mani Maaran on Sep 21, 2007 07:55 PM  Permalink


I cant be a lunatic by answering your worthless questions.
But I am here to inform you that enjoy by reading your cultured Puranas but make sure that you are atleast in a bathroom whenever you tempted :-)

Shame on you.

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RE:What a great culture? Who dares to compete? part 2
by Mani Maaran on Sep 21, 2007 08:08 PM  Permalink


You think deeply when you go bed today.

What I said and what you replied.

Who advocated for wisdom and who advocated for Ignorance?

I request you to come out of ignorant, foolish and unfound beliefs.

Bye and see you tomorrow.


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RE:What a great culture? Who dares to compete? part 2
by SRI KUMAR on Sep 22, 2007 12:12 PM  Permalink
Mani Maran,

Suggest, you read Arthamulla Hindu matham by Kannadasan. Then question about Hinduism.

Its unfortunate, people like you are easily brainwashed by DK/DMK leaders and amazed wealth just provoking Hinduism. Just give me one Dravidian leader, who honestly made wealth?
They indulge self-promotion and their families enjoy wealth, by misguiding people like you.
They made you people NOT to study Hindi, but they send their children to learn Hindi and Sanskrit. Do you know, Karuna's wife a Sai devotee and Satalin and Azhagiri goes to temples with their family. Your Maran bros are well devoted and just watch Sun TV, they commenced telecasting Hindu festivals. MK's TV will celebrate Diwali and other HINDU festivals to make Money.

If your so called leaders talk about Hindu Gods, are they have any guts to talk about other religions? Can they openly declare, they don't want votes from voters/cadres, whoever goes to temple and believe in GOD?

I remember, what I was taught by my school teacher, who was a Christian by religion.

Mother - Truth
Father - Belief

When my mother taught me Ramayan/Mahabharat and Hinduism , I didn't question my mother, b'coz I believe my mother and she can teach me only TRUTH. I didn't follow any leader as I go by knowledge gained after reading religious books incl Bible (Let me confess, I haven't read all books) By believing in God, I don't insult other religions. But without knowing Hinduism, people like you and your leaders critic

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RE:What a great culture? Who dares to compete? part 2
by on Sep 23, 2007 09:03 PM  Permalink
Avinash,
Whatever Maran qouted might be due to the misunderstanding of our great religion, but we were thought some good manners from our Religion which says not to abuse anyone in the manner u have done. Honestly, try and change your tone. Also try to read something about Periyar, he was not as bad as these people, who say they are followers of periyar. He was genuine. he was just angry over somethings.

Try learn and then quote. Dont tarnish the holy image of our religion by using abusive words. In short Dont do whatever your oponent is doing.

As for the opponents, i have just one thing

" VinashKale VibaridaBuddhihi".

!! Jai Ram Ji Ki!!

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RE:What a great culture? Who dares to compete? part 2
by kumud gosavi on Sep 21, 2007 08:04 PM  Permalink
Avinash, wherever you are. I stronlgly support you as I am a worshipper of SHRI RAM and I cannot tolerate any abusive language about his existence.

JAI SHRI RAM

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RE:What a great culture? Who dares to compete? part 2
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 21, 2007 08:00 PM  Permalink
So, what is your point?

Other then hatred against Hindus brought on no doubt by the brain washing of your minders the padre/mulla.

So, if soe looks at Sun directly is it bothering You so that you can post idiotic stuff on the internet.

Are you and yourpadre/mulla jealous of the "huge" crowds that yuo fake healing sessions as conducted by Beenny Hinn doe not draw as big crowds, despite bribing the audience and haveing a drama where well people pretend to be ill and then "get cured"

What abouthte rape of HUNDREDS of innocent children by hte Catholic priests. Is that acceptable to you?

What a hypocrite!

Take all that hatred out of your mind and see the Lord so that you can work towards avoiding you most cetain rebirths as God knows what.



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RE:What a great culture? Who dares to compete? part 2
by Ganesh on Sep 22, 2007 05:20 PM  Permalink
Scientists and doctors strongly advise against this as it is
likely to cause blindness. That is why Maran's friend Karuna is always wearing dark glasses. He is so scared of his eyes that he sleeps with this dark glasses on.

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RE:What a great culture? Who dares to compete?
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 21, 2007 08:18 PM  Permalink
Your description of these sculptures show your true colours.

Where did you come from? (please no smart answers except this joker)

Do you know how many cases of sodomy and child abuse have been sttled and are pending against the catholic Church?

Do you know of the convenient "temporary marriages(nikahs)" that happen in Hyderabad with old geezers from the Arabic countries with underage girls in Hyderabad?

Every faith has its bad section and thta is exactly the difference between Sanatana Dharma and the Semetic faiths. We are able to acknowledge it and try to see if we can resolve it, rather that hiding or concealing, while we(like you) psuh hate to try and denigrate other faiths.


ALL FAITHS have a code of conduct for its followers and sexuality is not taboo or illegal as you infer.

Unfortunately, your barin washing has filled your mind with hatred and you react to this as would an animal, just fro physical, instinctive point of view

What a sad waste of Human Birth.

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RE:What a great culture? Who dares to compete?
by Mahendra Patel on Sep 22, 2007 08:25 AM  Permalink
Good response from real Hindu.Here are real facts

1) In history of World Religion, Hindu never forced their religion and belief on any one, Either You have by birth or not.

2) If is oldest religion in World.

3) There are Lot to learn by Younger Religion
from Hinduism what real religion Means.

4) We gave our understanding on Yoga,Meditation
to Both East and west

5) Divinity many fested in Human- Ramana Maharishi, Aurbindo, Ramakrishna, Anandamayi Ma, Amrutanadamayi Ma to name few- Name any other religion producing continously Gems- as Saying Goes Tree is Worthy by it's Fruit. If Tree cannot produce a single Fruit or Bitter Fruit, It is Good to cut down for HOMA, Because that tree has no real benificial contribution to Humanity.

Regards,

Mahendra Patel, Chicago USA


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RE:What a great culture? Who dares to compete?
by Albert on Sep 22, 2007 02:29 PM  Permalink
You failed to add Advaniji and the fellows who killed thousands in Gujrat,
If anyone of the verses were understood by the hindus on this board there will not be so much of hatred here.
Instead you learn Periyars life story and teachings
He was a born orthodox hindu and stayed at kashi for sometimes and was for search of true hinduism. When he could not find out
and less tollerence and lack of rationality he turned an aethist.
Many of the people or abusive of that leader without knowing the facts
Thank you

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Proud of this great culture :-) Creation of Rishis%u2026
by Mani Maaran on Sep 21, 2007 07:39 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


According to the Hindu Holy books, God Brahma arranged the marriage of god
Shiva to goddess Parvathi.

When they went around the fire as per Hindu
religious ritual, god Shiva looked at the thighs of goddess parvathi and
ejac*lated his sem*n into the fire and they became Rishis (priests).

According to the Hindu Puranas this "god" can do such a filthy act!



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RE:Proud of this great culture :-) Creation of Rishis%u2026
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 21, 2007 08:21 PM  Permalink
How bogus.

Do you know what divinity is?
Maybe not, because you are living at an animalistic level.

I don't where you underwent brainwashing, but please fgeet some professional help VERY

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RE:RE:Proud of this great culture :-) Creation of Rishis%u2026
by Ganesh on Sep 22, 2007 05:25 PM  Permalink
Maran's religion (does he have one?) feels that ejaculation is filthy because they are incapable of doing it. They are HIJRAS.

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