RE:fallacy of pakistan.....
by mateen on Sep 16, 2007 01:20 PM Permalink
remaining part ...
The former religions of their forefathers have nothing to do with the constitution of Pakistani nation. If India can be one country despite an amalgamation of different religions (at the moment) and different cultures, and despite ferocious riots surging from time to time between followers of different religions, leading to burning of mosques, churches, priests, nuns and a massacre of a big part of population, why can't Pakistan stand its ground with no such havocs ever taking place here? Alhamdolillah (Thank the Lord).
5) Quaid-i-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah had never faltered in his belief that Pakistan was meant to stand its ground though he saw some differences in different sects of Pakistani society. His speeches to the very end of his life are demonstrations of his strong faith in Pakistan and Pakistanis.
6) Fighters from Baluchistan are not 'freedom fighters' as the author has mistakenly taken them to be. Even if they were, there are several movements continuing in several parts of world, not necessarily leading us to the conclusion that these states are crumbling. If some neighbouring country tries to give us a 'push', she will surely feel the 'jerk' that it will cause her.
RE:fallacy of pakistan.....
by ARYAN PUNJABI on Sep 16, 2007 04:37 PM Permalink
Mateen,you are a proud Pakistani nationalist which is commendable.Your comments are logical and optimistic.Well done and well said my dear. Just for exchange of views, Religion is just like a crop or product of the soil.If that seed is sown in another soil having different chemistry it looses its naturality and becomes something else.This is natural law of nature.If you use fertilizers(chemicals)for soil to meet the requirements of seed then after some period of time that soil gets addicted to those chemicals followed by incurable addiction and finally gets exhausted and looses fertility.This is Punjabi,Sindhi and Pathan matter. Constitution of a nation is always based on demography,culture,customs and traditions of that land.It is subject to amendments under changed times and circumstances. Pakitanis are Punjabis, Sindhis,Pathans,Baluch etc just like Indians are.How can you impose Saudi laws on them whereas their brothers and sisters in adjoining room of same house(India)are free birds!! On top of it those laws are being misused by your wicked dictators only to divert the attention of innocent Pakistanis from real issues in modern world.To feed venomous hatred to innocent Pakistanis towards India has been the lifeline of your dictators and rulers from 14-08-47 till date.Let religion be a personal belief and secularism a freedom to practise it.As at today where world is a global village,holding Pakistani passport in hand is just like you are holding a dynamite...WHY?
RE:RE:fallacy of pakistan.....
by ARYAN PUNJABI on Sep 16, 2007 05:31 PM Permalink
Can Indian laws change my heart,mind and taste to stop me listenig to the music of Ghulam Ali,Mehdi Hassan,Mussarat Nazir and other Punjabi singers of Pakistan ?What if Indian govt bans it ? But it happens in your country.All the modern,educated and intellectual Pakistanis like India and Indianness but they are opressed by laws and fanatics and brainwashed in madarassa.What is that all ? This is harsh reality and bitter truth that Pakistan,a fertile land,a land of beutiful and handsome people,a land of briliant people,a land of brave people has today become synonym with terrorist,terrorist state,nursery and base of global terrorism!!! WHY ? Is it Indian RAW,Indian Intelligence Bureuo,Indian Army,Indian Foreign policy doing all this to Pakistan ? NO..NO. Indian policy makers have been busy from 15-08- 47 till date to provide food,cloth and shelter to their huge population.They are busy to keep India united despite diversities.They are busy to give India a respectable place in modern and advanced world.You leaders are playing in the hands of Saudis and CIA just to protect their throne.It is your leaders who gave bases to CIA and USA against Soviets and got Talibans in return followed by Alqaida and so on.Your home and foreign policies and destiny are written and guided from Riyadh and Washington not from Islamabad.Essence is that neither you people could become Saudis nor you remained Punjabi, Sindhis or Baluch.Saudis and USA look down at and hate you,.YOU HATE INDIA,Well..
RE:fallacy of pakistan.....
by Vijay Anand on Sep 18, 2007 01:36 PM Permalink
Its a good one... and throws reality on face... It will b good 2 c if both Pak and Bharath progress in a constructive way... Pak's destruction not good for India as well...
RE:RE:fallacy of pakistan.....
by Raj Kumar on Sep 16, 2007 06:23 PM Permalink
pak is a F up country, imagine how many pakis are trying to get out of there country.
Pakistan is a country can give assilam for people like Dawood ibrahim other anti social people. true people of pakistan are trying to run away from there Country.
RE:fallacy of pakistan.....
by mateen on Sep 16, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
Fallacy of the Adversaries of Pakistan
My honoured friend seems to have misjudged the whole situation in his mainly fictitious essay. He has drawn a totally wrong conclusions from the seemingly disorderly situation in Pakistan. Pakistan being subject to devastation by one push by a neighbour (obviously India was in the author's mind) is nothing more than a wishful thinking on the part of the author.
1) Relegion is the gretest binding force that humanity has ever known.
2) Pakistanis are linked together in the relationship of brotherhood and this feeling is by no means local. On one side the author talks of the 'Muslim clan' and on the other side states that religion has nothing to do with it, which is quite absurd.
3) The frustration of Muslim clan is due to no other reason than the brutality of their opponents on their Muslim sisters and brothers. It is a sign that Muslims (not including the political diplomacies of their rulers) are united and feel for one another's griefs and tribulations.
4) The argument that Pathans were converted from Buddhism and Punjabis from Hinduism is totally out of place. Does the author want us to believe that the religions that their forefathers once followed still have some effect on them and the religion that they have been adherents of for generations has none?
RE:RE:fallacy of pakistan.....
by True Indian on May 17, 2008 12:22 AM Permalink
what kind of binding does muslims have. shias and sunnis always clash with each other. in gujarat shias and sunnis clashed with each other and so many pi--gs died. now u ppl blame this on modi.. he is innocent honorable man
RE:pakistani pasthun speaking pathans are the most ignorant and aboriginial race in the face of the earth.
by Sampat Kumar on Sep 15, 2007 01:35 PM Permalink
All Muslims are ignorent who call all non-Muslims ignorent & kaffirs. Take for example all Indian Muslims are more concerned about Palestenians & Iraqis than their own Hindu Kashmiri Pandits who have become refuges in their own country. Not a sngle Muslim or any of their leaders has expressed any concern. What does this indicate.
RE:RE:pakistani pasthun speaking pathans are the most ignorant and aboriginial race in the face of the earth.
by gurpreet datta on Sep 15, 2007 01:40 PM Permalink
sampat i dont want to make any comment on your remarks.
just want to say
100/100 FOR YOUR COMMENT.
their fundamentalist leaders keep on issuing FATVAS against pope and others. did anyone issued FATVA against any militant who are killing innocent people.
RE:pakistani pasthun speaking pathans are the most ignorant and aboriginial race in the face of the earth.
by gurpreet datta on Sep 15, 2007 01:35 PM Permalink
i agree with you bhola. thats not the question of only behind. its the way they are treated and how do they react once they are brain washed by their fundamentalists.
pak has treated india with its terrorism. the sowed sapplings of terror are fetching fruits now. its pak's turn now. be ready with big ass ,to be bamboozled by your own men
RE:pak
by Rajiv Trivedi on Sep 15, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
Bhola and Golden good idea. The day there is a possibility of fundamentalist rule in Pakistan your big brother USA will step in an and take care of you. India has nothing to worry.
Musharraf is from SSG. He could blow himself up (like this other SSG commando did). Leaders of other countries beware!! If Musharraf tries to shake hands with you please have him screened and frisked properly. Only then let him near you. Biggest threat to Western leaders' lives is Musharraf who may himself be a suicide bomber, waiting for the opportunity. He has suicidal tendencies. Check old news reports. When Nawaz Sharif did not allow Musharraf's plane to land in Karachi in 1999, he was advised to request India for landing permission. Musharraf replied, "I would rather die than land in India." This proves his hidden suicidal nature. ALL: Beware of Musharraf!
RE:Threats come from unexpected sources
by govind dujari on Sep 15, 2007 10:58 AM Permalink
I am really amused how far your imagination can stretch. Keep it up!
RE:Threats come from unexpected sources
by san man on Sep 15, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
Musharraf is a coward who only wants others to die to save his unworthy skin.
