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Does Indian-American lobby know what is good for India?
by Chakravarthy Muralidhar on Sep 07, 2007 12:31 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

What the Indian-Americans say is good for India is purely from their emotional and ego point of view.What do they know about the economic and geo-political effects of the 123-Deal?American policies towards the rest of the world is molded purely by its own economic and political ends.In fact,in recent times even its domestic policies too are driven by corporate interests.Since the 1990s,every year more than 1 million Americans are getting pushed below the poverty line.At the moment more than 12% of US population is below the povertyline.But the point is,no nation who have signed any deal with the US have come out as gainers in the long run.Take the case of Japan's nuke deal with US.Japan produces the costliest nuke electricity in the world despite the most efficient operations.This is due to expensive fuel prices,no reprocessing allowed,no fuel R&D allowed,etc.While deal with India is vastly superior,the American plan will ultimately result is costly nuke power with downstream economic repurcussions.Besides,investment to the tune of 6-8 lakh crores will be exposed to US foreign policy vagaries.This will give the controlling lever of India's foreign policy to US mandarins.Slowly the US would start forcing India to take part in US misadventures in Asia and middle-east,just as they are able to do with UK,Oz,NZ,Japn,Turky,Grmny,Spain,P'tgl,etc,without being blatant about it.Once India's energy economy gets linked to US,our foreign policy too will get subordinated to US needs.

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RE:Does Indian-American lobby know what is good for India?
by Red Pascal on Sep 07, 2007 04:39 PM  Permalink
So the deals that post World war II Germany, Japan and UK signed with the US, which helped them recover from the war and regain economic strength hurt these nations ? your claim of no country benefiting is just a claim not borne out by any fact. Japan is not restricted to us technology, incidentally China has signed a NUKE deal with the USA a decade and a half ago, now let us hear you say that China has suffered in the last decade and a half ( if the fastest economic growth by a nation in the world is suffering, then let us suffer too you commie a**holes).

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RE:Does Indian-American lobby know what is good for India?
by babi ati on Sep 08, 2007 01:27 AM  Permalink
India was in bed with the Soviet Union for 50 odd years and what do have to show for with that association?

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RE:Does Indian-American lobby know what is good for India?
by raj on Sep 08, 2007 06:09 PM  Permalink
Babi ati you are correct. Not a damn thing. That stupid "friend ship treaty" pushed the country backward.India lag behind in many fields comapre to other Asian nations.Even now name one consumer product come out of Russia other than Vodka. What consumer product they produce and sold in the world markert? Do we need a system like that? Thank God Soviet Union is gone for ever.

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RE:Does Indian-American lobby know what is good for India?
by rajkiran on Sep 07, 2007 01:26 PM  Permalink
What a stupid comment!! (by a commie ?) ..I agree to few of your later comments though

Do you know US poverty line is defined as around $12,000 per annum... and India's poverty line is defined as $365 per annum...so, ur perception of 1 million americans going below poverty line is absurd!!

Yes, US has economic interests in this deal.. but, its also very good for India....

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RE:Does Indian-American lobby know what is good for India?
by Buggs Bunney on Sep 07, 2007 01:40 PM  Permalink

america gives full rights & citizenship to everyone, unlike russia, china & saudi arabia.

kindly replace your american intel or amd processor with a made in calcutta processor.

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RE:Does Indian-American lobby know what is good for India?
by raj on Sep 08, 2007 07:21 PM  Permalink
Chakravarthy Muralidhar You souds like good old Soviet radio called "Peace and Progress". Did you work for them before. I live in the US. Yes like any country there are poor in the US too. Do you have any clue how many immirants coming to this free country? And further more hunders and thousands coming from central America and Mexico. Your knowledge about the US is very very minimal. What about the rotten Soviets controlled our foregin policy for the past 50yrs? We bosted or self "non allined" That time I didnt hear any cry from the "LEFT" Why? Answer is very simple Soviets are their buddies and their boss. But when India do joint training with US they are up in arms. Why is that? Do they behave same way IF India singed a deal with CHINA? Please tell me how much Human rights they have? What about freedom of the press, What about right to organize, Tell , How many political parties in China? Before you bark at the US Do you have any clue of the poverty level in China and other communist nations? You (commies) think you are angels? Talk to people of Combodia, Romania, Chec republic , Poland, East Germany . How come all old Soviet sattlite countries ran away and embrassed the WEST and NATO. First of learn history before you open your dierea mouth. No matter how much you try to low blow US, United States has its place in the world. Once the Soviet leader (mr.Krushchev) told Mr.Kennedy "We will bury you(us)" Guess , who got burried ? Get your facts togather first Mr.Muralidhar. Yo

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British chale aao
by prasanna pai on Sep 07, 2007 11:43 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Even the polls also can't resolve the prob. Instead of left we will have more Mayawati BSP.And u have seen what she did with retail. There are minority of people who understand this deal and how imp.it is for country. This nation needs british Raj again. Believe me you may take it as an exaggeration but had india not got its freedom in 1947 we would be far more developed that Hongkong.We all are frustrated with rotten politics.

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RE:British chale aao
by kalimuthu on Sep 07, 2007 02:08 PM  Permalink
you are an idiot dude. plain and simple idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE:British chale aao
by raj on Sep 08, 2007 07:29 PM  Permalink
Mr Kalimuthu have you been to Singapore and Hongkong then you know wht the other guy was saying

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It Should be solve by Non poltical person
by rajeev kulshrestha on Sep 07, 2007 11:37 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It Should be solve by Non poltical persons,

Commetee should be headed by APJ Abdul Kalam

Ex Foreign Secratary,Ex Nuclear Scientists should be the members

what ever be the Sugesstion It will be accepted by govt,opposition



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RE:It Should be solve by Non poltical person
by Ramesh on Sep 07, 2007 01:32 PM  Permalink
Good thought. But unfortunately you can i have no voice in this democratic india.

Uneducated votes choose their leader and this unqualified leader decides the fate of us.

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RE:It Should be solve by Non poltical person
by raj on Sep 08, 2007 07:36 PM  Permalink
Great thinking , Those kind of things happens in the US and the West. .

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Left and BJP
by smarajit sarkar on Sep 07, 2007 11:27 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies


You may not agree with Karat, but that doesn't give netfolks the right to savage the Left in the rather uncivilized manner in which they are doing now. Look what has happened to the countries that accepted American hegemony unquestioningly. Look what is happening to Pakistan. The country was used by the US in every possible way. Now, the USA is the only Krishna and we are all expected to dance to its bansuri, the way the blue-turbaned Manmohan Singh doing. Any man who have self respect and rational view should agree with me. I am surprised that every body is telling that leftists are "chamcha" of China, what about BJP? Are they chamcha of Pakistanis? They are also opposing the deal


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RE:Left and BJP
by Buggs Bunney on Sep 07, 2007 01:40 PM  Permalink

errr....america gives full rights & citizenship to everyone, unlike russia, china & saudi arabia.

kindly replace your american intel or amd processor with a made in calcutta processor.

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RE:RE:Left and BJP
by smarajit sarkar on Sep 07, 2007 02:14 PM  Permalink
The problem with NRI netizens is that they are several ozone layers away from India and they believe that they control the Indian atmosphere. I just want to ask them if they'd want India to become a banana republic.Let all of us, who have not caught our worm-catching early flights to the US and are still rooted to the soil, stop listening to the NRIs.They shouldn't tell us how to deal with the nuclear deal

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RE:RE:RE:Left and BJP
by raj on Sep 08, 2007 08:27 PM  Permalink
But you like the NRI money right? When you say NRI we are Indian citizens making a honest living and supporting familes back home. Unlike promoting strikes and lockout like you guys over there. India's big time foreign exchange come from NRI from Gulf , US and Europe. Dont forget that . NOT from CHINA and RUSSIA

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RE:Left and BJP
by Buttanna S on Sep 07, 2007 02:10 PM  Permalink
Look what Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Germany etc have acieved where American hegemony exists. It all depends on how well the host countries deal with the issues that are important.

In all relationships between any two countries there are issues which are matters of self-interest whether it is between India & America or India & Russia or India & China etc.

China is not assisting Pakisthan for nothing; it is using Pak as proxy against India.

Soviet Union subjugated all the East European countries for several decades for their own ends.

Neither China or Russia gave up their national interests for the sake of their ideology.

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RE:RE:Left and BJP
by smarajit sarkar on Sep 07, 2007 02:17 PM  Permalink
do we have much respect for the United Kingdom after Blair surrendered to every order, every dictum that came out of Washington? That was the only low and irredeemable aspect of an otherwise widely-respected Prime Minister's career. Blair reduced the British Isles into an archipelago ruled from White House. Similarly, do we have much respect for South Korea or, for that matter, Phillipines?

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RE:Left and BJP
by Buttanna S on Sep 07, 2007 04:44 PM  Permalink
There is very little difference between the United Kingdom & the USA; they are like one country in two lands from both UK and USA points of view. In the USA, it is the UK that is the dominant force though the USA consists of all European nationalities.

In any case, the UK has been on the downward slide for a long time for reasons other than political. By catching on to the USA tails it is managing to garner a lot of importance, much more than what it can on it's own or deserves.

Is there any respect for China, Russia? They are considered dangerous, rather than respected.

Whatever we may think of ourselves, India is certainly not respected greater than S.Korea, abroad. In fact Indians get one of the worst treatment every where in the world; they have to struggle to get recognition. India will gain respect when it can take care of it's internal problems well, administers well, protects it's citizen from terror, corruption, poverty etc and puts a stop to the adventurism by it's hostile neighbours.

By fearing to go ahead with the deal, which is advantageous to both, we are showing our lack of:

1. confidence in our ability to deal with other countries.
2. contradiction in thinking; sovereignity is not lost when engaging with Russia or China but we lose it when dealing with the USA or the western world.

So what respect is being talked about?

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RE:Left and BJP
by mindgod on Sep 10, 2007 08:45 PM  Permalink
Buttanna,
Ha..
This is called wisdom.

hats off, dear for such well thoughtout
statements. You are indeed a real observer
of world politics. This single small post is
sufficient to show the depth of it.

The problem is most CPM-goons beleive that what the mad crazy fool in their party study class vomit is all. Sharp intelligence and sense of unbiased observation is required to acertain politics. Because it involves nothing but, how to cheat each other and innocent masses.

Wani, kole, sarkar etc are representatives of may be some good people hijacked by CPM, brainwashed and send to do media activities.

If the topic was terrorism, or minority issues, or castism, or something that divides india, we wouldnt be a match for them. They are well trained in JNU.



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RE:RE:Left and BJP
by raj on Sep 08, 2007 08:47 PM  Permalink
Great very good thinking. Your points are on the dot.

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RE:RE:RE:Left and BJP
by Red Pascal on Sep 07, 2007 04:48 PM  Permalink
So definitely South Korea gets more respect than North korea, the nation that chose commies, and Phillipines is not a basket case, so where does lack of respect for Phillipines come from ? it was not even a nation before the war, and on poverty and healthcare it's progress is better than India's, So whatever you may say about the UK, Indians still Q up to get there, look at the doctors protesting about coming back, I do not see Indians lining up to immigrate to China though, nor the Russia, the UK ecomomy is healthy and all respect in this world is related to economic strenght, but a capital hating commie canot understand that can he ?

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RE:Left and BJP
by rajeev kulshrestha on Sep 07, 2007 11:43 AM  Permalink
BJP is not opposing the agreement, they want to show that left are not keen to pullback the govt
its only crocodile tears.
On this issue if left is differ from govt They should show action in parliament.

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RE:Left and BJP
by Biman Basu on Sep 07, 2007 01:02 PM  Permalink
YOU ARE RIGHT ! DRAMA IS GOING ON AT PROPLES' COST!

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RE:Left and BJP
by pradeep agarwal on Sep 07, 2007 01:14 PM  Permalink
This time the blame can't be put at the door of anyone but UPA.It was their responsibility to take their partners along before signing the deal.You can't be in coalition politics & behave like having 2/3rd majority.Congress is still carrying the hngover of running the government for 30 years.

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RE:Left and BJP
by mindgod on Sep 07, 2007 05:47 PM  Permalink
Do u have energy ready for us??
We savage CPM because, it the worst party ever possible... Reason I have faced the facist way they used to silence everyone in a democratic country using terror and violence.

I have seen by college lab, shattered by them, my teachers beaten up, just because they did not want strike.

I have seen my friends attacked and their legs/bones brocken by SFI goons (may be you too were grown up as those goons) just because they did not agree to SFI threat and withdraw from college elections.

So naturaly as a person of 25 years experience of CPMs terror, I dont want rest of the states to lose their freedom of speech.

Pak co-operated with USA for their gain, or else they would have become a COMMIE state of Russia.
USA did not use them. It was marriage of mutual benefit, and PAK being the most benefactor as it was saved from an Invassion.

Do u need any 4th grader to speak of BJPs relation to PAK, even Muslims know about it.

But I say "CPM is more dangerous to India than JIHADISTS".

Live under CPM terror rule, I mean in areas where if u need to talk u need CPM permission,
not as goons like you, but as common people.

Your party stings, because usurps freedom of speech from citizens and it is in accordance with your Communist Manifesto.

So we cant let our country become a slave to your COMMIE ideaology.

For that and for better future of freedom, we Indians unlike you CHINESE, align with USA, a country that respect Freedom.

Lal-salam

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RE:Left and BJP
by Red Pascal on Sep 07, 2007 04:43 PM  Permalink
Yeah Commie look what happened to the UK, Germany and Japan after the war, they accepted US dominance and became major economic engines, look at what happened to South Korea that chose USA and North Korea that chose China, see the repression and poverty in N Korea ? Ahh I forgot, a commie cannot see that !

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RE:RE:Left and BJP
by WishyWashy on Sep 07, 2007 01:49 PM  Permalink
Comrade Sarkar!

Communist are a bloodsucking leech variety of perfidious lot, doesn't kae much intelligence to figure it out.

The left oppositions started the moment Chinese papers started blaring about the agreement. BJP is in opposition and thats what are expected to do; Lefties are doing it so that Chinese & Pakistanis can go pally pally and Indian development get derailed in favour of Chinese.....

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RE:Left and BJP
by smarajit sarkar on Sep 07, 2007 02:07 PM  Permalink
dear sir,
Do not use abusive language like "blood sucking leech" . This is a bad taste. If you are a rational person you can express your views with out disrespecting any body. you have called me comrade, i am going to take it as a complement. thanks you have not called me a bjp supporter

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RE:RE:Left and BJP
by raj on Sep 08, 2007 08:44 PM  Permalink
Mr.WishyWashy - you are right about commies they suck the blood of the poor masses , in the name communism. If they are that labor that labor friedly how come American labor's standard of living is far far higher than any Communist nations even compare to European countries?Can you tell you Communist?

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RE:Left and BJP
by dude on Sep 08, 2007 02:51 AM  Permalink
I totally agree with calling you commies as Blood sucking leech is abusing the leech. Poor leeches shouldn't be addressed so disrespectfully.

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RE:Left and BJP
by raj on Sep 08, 2007 08:07 PM  Permalink
Hello smarajit sarkar, Did you like when Mrs.Gandhi used to dance to the tune of Soviet Union? Pakistan was more close with China than the US. Who provide them the Nuke technology? You said "Blue Turban" No reason to get racial . Yes you guys earned the name by writing Slogan like " Chairman Maos is our chairman. Carrying pictures of Lennin, Bucher Stalin and Marx. So what you expect to call you? And I didnt hear one word about , Chinese attack on India in 1961? Are you aware of it? Well as long as BJP is singing Vandemathiram they can't be chamcha of Pakistan. Can you provide me one prooff to back up your comment about BJP? You guys carry RED FLAG which belongs to China , not India. It belongs to a foreign (enemy) power. And all of your leaders never denounce China. Those are your bosses. You are telling Mr.Manmohan singh is dancing according to US tune? Shame on you. Look yourself in the mirror.Your bosses are not Indians , Your bosses are some White men from Russia, Germany and China. Take a hike.

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Indian-Americans ?
by Sincere Citizen on Sep 07, 2007 11:26 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

People who leave India and go to the USA for a better life, their perception is from a overall perspective USA is a better place than India and hence they decide to live in the US.
These people should closely look at the US policies regarding nuclear energy as well as internal security first before blindly supporting some deal supposedly encouraging closer US-India ties.
India needs to have independent thinking and create its own path to solve its energy as well as security need, we are different and we need different solutions.

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RE:Indian-Americans ?
by Buggs Bunney on Sep 07, 2007 01:40 PM  Permalink


errr....america gives full rights & citizenship to everyone, unlike russia, china & saudi arabia.



kindly replace your american intel or amd processor with a made in calcutta processor.

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RE:Indian-Americans ?
by Red Pascal on Sep 07, 2007 04:50 PM  Permalink
So how does better ties hurt India ? Why should they looka t it closely if it does not hurt India ? If it hurts India why are China and Pakistan protesting about the deal ?

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RE:Indian-Americans ?
by mindgod on Sep 07, 2007 06:00 PM  Permalink
Dear Sincere citizen,

This world is so small now.

Even CHINA has a policy to align with whomever it wants to en-circle India.

Example

1) Gwadar Port in Pak, supply of Nukes and missile tech to pak
2) ELectronic Intelligence post in Myanmar close to Indian Naval area
3) Promise for Nuclear reactor to Bangladesh, in return of a port and military access to Bay of Bengal
4) A new relation with srilanka, for weapons and nuclear tech.

In short India is already encircled...
CHINESE are not traitors like Indian commies, they love their country, not India, so will do anything to destroy India unless it becomes a COMMIE coountry like them, which offcourse is the dream of people like you.

So In this circumstance if USA feels their strategic interests aligns with India against CHINA, we need to co-operate because we have no other option against chinese threats and west is not a strategic threat to India.

Ok, kindly explain a different path for India other than Iran. Iran is supposed to be bombed by west. Because they cant live in a jihadi nuclear threat. So is it in our interest to lay down piplines to them through that horrible pak, for gas/oil. In an event of a west/Iran war it will be destroyed for sure.

But I agree that we shouldnt be a USA chamcha...
But we have no option but to align against our enemy CHINA/PAK and guard our fundamental interests from USA. Iran"s interest need not be Indian interest.

Non-alignment is already tested for failure.

COMMIES are a curse.

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RE:Indian-Americans ?
by Vishnu Sharma on Sep 08, 2007 07:08 AM  Permalink
CHINESE are not traitors like Indian commies, they love their country, not India, so will do anything to destroy India unless it becomes a COMMIE country like them,
Correction: Chinese have completely ruined North
Korea which is another Commie country
The Chinese are the authors of the Cambodian
genocide.

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RE:RE:Indian-Americans ?
by mindgod on Sep 08, 2007 10:14 AM  Permalink
The relation between CHINA-the-evil and North-korea-the-paper-evil is that of a Master and a servant.

In communism... This is one of the first principles. Do not Give FREEDOM.. Be it Individual or client-state..
So no wonder. What I meant is PRC wont fund bombing of North-korea as long as they co-operate with chinese masters and remain as a COMMIE client-state..

Exactly same they want everywhere...

In Pak it is not possible only due to the exact counter part - Violent ISLAM that defends until it perishes.



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RE:Indian-Americans ?
by Making Sense on Sep 07, 2007 12:02 PM  Permalink
What India is today and all the development that has been going on for the past 10 years is because of the Indians that went abroad and proved to the world that India has talent. India is still atleast 50 years behind the developed countries but the foundations of the growth have been layed and sometimes its better to copy and befriend a successful nation to grow faster than reinventing the wheel and being by urslef. Todays world is the world of team work not individual achievements. And please dont think that the Indians living abroad are lesser Indians than the Indians living in India. Indian is always an Indian. No matter where you are you will always take care of your mother wont you? The Indians abroad too want there mother land to be prosperous.

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Mr. Chatterjee - - very sorry
by kapil on Sep 07, 2007 11:22 AM  Permalink 

we are leading by LEFT party and nothing can be done at this point. Only snap poll can save the country...Wait for begining of 2008 everything will be clear...Meantime please arrange someone to finish those Left guys..

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N Deal
by arungopal agarwal on Sep 07, 2007 11:14 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Todays war is of maintaining superimacy on enonomic and technological front, not a land grab. For that, it is a business deal,where both the parties win, may be one a little looser and other a little gainer.
Present democratic system in India looks after the vote bank first, nation is secondary, therefore a lot of political disparity can be seen.

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RE:N Deal
by jagan on Sep 07, 2007 11:22 AM  Permalink
yah.
so we have to tell the people the truth that nuclear power is dangerous and economically not feasible.

US also moving against nuclear power.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?articleID=070829_5_E1_spanc05761

American Electric Power Co CEO Michael Morris said "realistic" costs of nuclear power is about $4,000 a kilowatt. Instead of nuclear plants, Columbus, Ohio-based AEP is proposing to build advanced coal-fired generation. coal-gasification plants will cost about $3,500 a kilowatt to build.





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RE:N Deal
by arungopal agarwal on Sep 07, 2007 11:29 AM  Permalink
Mr. Jagan, you are wrong,please check up again, nuclear energy is cheapest in the world, also please note, when all minerals are exhausted, only nuclear will help you, do not think of today, think of tomorrow.

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RE:N Deal
by Red Pascal on Sep 07, 2007 04:53 PM  Permalink
So the French haqve cheaper and better Nuke technology than the US, and the deal allows us to buy tech and raw mat from them too. how does a deal that "allows" us to buy what was not allowed to us before hurt us ? If we want to be frogs in a well and not buy, we can still not buy even after the deal is signed, the deal does not make it mandatory for us to buy, it just removes the restrictions, how is that bad ?

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RE:RE:N Deal
by Goonda on Sep 07, 2007 11:29 AM  Permalink
My dear Friend I read in news paper on the day of our PM dedicating Tarapur plant to nation that cost of per unit of power generated by that plant is 30 paise and it is being sold to MSETCL at this rate. While the cost of power generated by coal based power plant is Rs1.85/- .

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RE:RE:N Deal
by Sudeep Ghosh on Sep 07, 2007 02:49 PM  Permalink
30p is not the entire cost. There is also extra security cost, Waste management cost etc. They are calculated separately. If you add them, it will be close to Rs 1.85/-

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RE:RE:N Deal
by jagan on Sep 07, 2007 11:34 AM  Permalink
friends,
please read this.
http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog/nuclear/a-closer-look-at-the-real-costs-of-nukes

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We dont want nuclear power plants anywhere in the world
by jagan on Sep 07, 2007 11:12 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Nuclear energy is costliest and dangerous energy.

Americans also dont want them on their land.

American Electric Power Co. isn't planning to build any new nuclear power plants because delays will push operational starts to 2020, CEO Michael Morris said Tuesday.

The first permit to build and operate a new U.S. reactor would be delayed by a court challenge that will probably reach the Supreme Court, Morris told reporters in Washington, D.C. Builders would also have to queue for certain parts and face "realistic" costs of about $4,000 a kilowatt, he said.

Power producers proposing to build reactors have suggested they could be operating by 2015 or 2016. About 20 percent of U.S. electricity is generated by nuclear power today.

Proposals to build as many as 28 new reactors have come after Congress in 2005 offered billions in loan guarantees and tax credits to those building new nuclear power plants. Reactors produce no greenhouse emissions, which contribute to global warming.

"I'm not convinced we'll see a new nuclear station before probably the 2020 timeline," Morris said.

Instead of nuclear plants, Columbus, Ohio-based AEP is proposing to build advanced coal-fired generation that would be able to capture carbon dioxide emissions. Morris said the company's proposed coal-gasification plants will cost about $3,500 a kilowatt to build.

AEP owns Public Service Company of Oklahoma.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?articleID=07

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RE:We dont want nuclear power plants anywhere in the world
by R Tyagi on Sep 07, 2007 11:36 AM  Permalink
Then perhaps try getting rid of sun first, its nuclear fusion going on there and it is emitting Ultra violet radiations that are one of major causes of skin cancer, India is falling inside extreme UV exposure zone....

U won't be knowing all this, 'cause you don't appear to be knowing that nuclear power plants are very costly just because of the protection features that have to be included to protect public living around (Many are opposing without having any knowledge of science and features and saying more plants are bad, even single plant is bad, and that is the worst part half knowledge is more dangerous)...

It would be best if you research on the topic first, see that if a person makes claims what is reasoning behind it ( Nuclear power plants can be costly, in fact they are costly but the cost increases if ( you mentioned urself ) - there are delays, they can be avoided if you have manpower and things in time, delivery people can be made account for that...

Look for solutions, and ways to address problems in different ways - it is not only source, but others are limited in generation potential ( what is better trying to cook food based on heat from sun or using exhaustible gas stove in home? )...

Please study....

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RE:We dont want nuclear power plants anywhere in the world
by jagan on Sep 07, 2007 11:42 AM  Permalink

are you talking about American Electric Power Co CEO Michael Morris?
May be he need more study.

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RE:We dont want nuclear power plants anywhere in the world
by R Tyagi on Sep 07, 2007 11:46 AM  Permalink
why don't you go and try taking his chair, if you're so confident of handling things better and giving a vision to subordinates on working on alternatives, they would be happy to outsource such a costly position, and India would earn money...

Looks like a good way to contribute, good luck...

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RE:We dont want nuclear power plants anywhere in the world
by jagan on Sep 07, 2007 11:58 AM  Permalink

i am not aware that that you owns the American Electric Power Co. India is shining. Great.

my dear friend,
why you are becoming so personal.
I just reported news appeared in a web site.
Take it cool. Tension mat lena%u2026


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RE:We dont want nuclear power plants anywhere in the world
by R Tyagi on Sep 07, 2007 12:12 PM  Permalink
It is not taking tension or getting personal, it is just responding to a comment which at first glance looks to be uncalled, and worse ill-informed...
nothing personal, and India shining depends on how one looks at something... perfect black is best absorber as well as best emitter...

have a nice day...

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Such Indian Americans are hardcore selfish American agents
by Anand Krish on Sep 07, 2007 11:01 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

We had so many like them when Brits ruled India. The maharajs and millions of Indians actively collaborated with Brits in enslaving India. Congress itself was a British ploy to divert Indian resntmnet ( congress was created by Allan Ocavian Hume - a British agent and inflitartor. Congress attitide was running with the hare and hunting with teh wolf. At real times of trouble they helped Brits - World War 1 and 2.



Now we have millions of our own Indians who are more than willing to enslave teh nation to America.



Foe chaterjee it will mean more business and wealth. Why wont he support?

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RE:Such Indian Americans are hardcore selfish American agents
by Red Pascal on Sep 07, 2007 04:54 PM  Permalink
I prefer American agents to Chinese ones

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RE:Such Indian Americans are hardcore selfish American agents
by mindgod on Sep 07, 2007 06:11 PM  Permalink
Point number one is
CPM is not for India.. It for a chinese extenssion in India, A commie with no freedom of speech.
Remember Nandigram, when CPM do violence it is strike agaisnst oppression and feudal lords, when govt does violence against an armed and violent CPM goons it is govt-sponsored violence.

When CPM attacks anyone who speaks against them it is as per PART manifesto and culture, when others do it is riot.

Alignment with USA is a need of the country for Energy and strategic aliance against an EVIL country CHINA, who has already encircled India, funding Maoists in many states, using pak, Bangla, Myanmar and srilanka..

Your CPM local-commitie sporsored rant cant fool India people.

Dear Indians, Never let COMMIES even hoist a flag in your region. Once they come, u cant even speak, ur colleges will be strike zones, your kids will be their victims either as commie gundas or their suffers. Talk to educated sensible people from kerala and bengal, regarding freedom of speech in CPM areas.

CPM is the most wealthiest party in kerala.
Has a TV channel, the first by any political party. Funds are forced from all merchants, even the poorest..!!!!

And now speaking agaisnt USA..!!!
You have no right dear, as you at first try to become an Indian as opposed to a CHINESE pinp.

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RE:Such Indian Americans are hardcore selfish American agents
by Vishnu Sharma on Sep 08, 2007 07:11 AM  Permalink
All commies will be rounded up and shot.
This is going to happen soon and no one
will murmer a word of protest.

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RE:Such Indian Americans are hardcore selfish American agents
by V S on Sep 07, 2007 11:08 AM  Permalink
Indian Americans who are pushing the deal are helping India.

I think it is the LEFT that are the Chinese agents in this game. They should all be sent to China.

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RE:RE:Such Indian Americans are hardcore selfish American agents
by jagan on Sep 07, 2007 11:14 AM  Permalink


sent them to china.

but we dont want nuclear plants in china too... and other countries too ...

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RE:Such Indian Americans are hardcore selfish American agents
by Goonda on Sep 07, 2007 11:32 AM  Permalink
Do not worry of sending them to china by opposing all the things by which India will be one up on the chinese , the left will bring China to India.

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RE:Commies begone!
by smarajit sarkar on Sep 07, 2007 11:20 AM  Permalink
Dear Sir,
This is a democratic country. Do not use abusive language . This is a bad taste This time I am going to vote for left parties. The reason is as follows. You may not agree with Karat, but that doesn't give netfolks the right to savage the Left in the rather uncivilized manner in which they are doing now. Look what has happened to the countries that accepted American hegemony unquestioningly. Look what is happening to Pakistan. The country was used by the US in every possible way. Now, the USA is the only Krishna and we are all expected to dance to its %u201Cbansuri%u2019, the way the blue-turbaned Manmohan Singh doing. Any man who have self respect and rational view should agree with me


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RE:RE:Commies begone!
by Goonda on Sep 07, 2007 11:36 AM  Permalink
Whether you vote or don't vote , the left have ready made vote bank of illegal Bangladeshi immigrants . The left did not even once condem the Hyderabad blast because it invoulved Bangladeshi's .

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RE:RE:Commies begone!
by Making Sense on Sep 07, 2007 11:54 AM  Permalink
Yes look what has happened to countries that accepted US as a friend for example Japan, Germany and all the european countries. You talk about pakis, America knows what pakis are. pakis are nothing but traitors, so the pakis get what they deserve. Tell me one thing if u help someone and that person threatens u or ur family then what would u do?

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RE:RE:RE:Commies begone!
by Sahadevan KK on Sep 07, 2007 01:45 PM  Permalink
Both Mamta Banerjee and George Bush cannot get a space for their footsteps in any land, neither West Bengal, Iraq, Iran, America nor India. People will reject them.

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RE:RE:Commies begone!
by mindgod on Sep 07, 2007 06:21 PM  Permalink
Once a commie, always a Commie..
You know why..???
CPM usurps ur voting rights..
Even to talk to ur wife and touch her, Prakash-carrot needs to permit you.!!!

So whom u vote doesnt matter, because once in
CPM trap u cant vote for anyone else than them..?

Dear Indians, if u need proof for above statement, inquire to educated people in kerala and Bengal on how CPM manipulates elections and how afraid people are to speak against party even inside their house. Even the officer in charge of the booth will be a CPM agent. They will somehow know, whom u voted for and rest of your life in that CPM area is doomed. Your family will be tortured by the party. This are the truths which I speak from my own experience.

U speak for CPM and carrot in-disguise of your enenimity against USA. If I know correctly how CPM works I know that they do care too much about media openion and u should be a paid goon to rant for Carrot-famliy.

So In short whom u vote is already done.. Light-carrot decided it, or else one of your legs will be dangling in the front of your home and your wife will soon lose her consciousness.
This is just one way CPM makes sure u vote for them once u are CPM sympathizer.

CPM dont care about other party people much though they also will be hunted, but if CPM people like you vote against them, as per CPM manual u deserve to die or lose a leg.

For proofs look in kerala and Bengal



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