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China is a cunning snake country.
by V S on Sep 07, 2007 11:40 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

"China is a positive force to promote peace and stability and cooperation in the Asia-Pacific region. China is ready to make a joint effort with other countries the region to increase mutual trust, to increase cooperation. By cooperation we can realise win-win results," she added.

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HAHA , China exports nuclear tech. and missiles to North Korea ,Pakistan and Iran.

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RE:China is a cunning snake country.
by New Yorker on Sep 07, 2007 06:49 PM  Permalink
Its like Muslims calling Islam a Peaceful Religion.

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Buying time
by Jagan P James on Sep 07, 2007 09:20 AM  Permalink 

China is trying to buy time by making contradictory statements from different people so as to confuse the already confused commies.. china sees that once Bush goes, the deal will also go, so they are making it as difficult as possible and inciting commies to any extent so that the deal is not signed,

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India has a clean record of proliferation.
by readiff on Sep 07, 2007 05:21 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

India has a clean record of proliferation.

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RE:India has a clean record of proliferation.
by Sree Jani on Sep 07, 2007 08:02 AM  Permalink
of NON-proliferation

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N Deal Facts
by Transformers on Sep 06, 2007 11:11 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

A lotts people here dont understand that the N Deal is actually not just abt India and the US, its actually abt India and the Rest of the world comin together, the deal is nt US specific bt opens the doors to 45 nations who supply nuclear technology. Obviously we are nt sellin ourselves to nations like Russia China France UK South Sfrica Brazil Sweden etc. The idea that the deal is just between the US and India is absolutely wrong. The US is facilitating the removal of nuclear sanctions against India. Frm where we buy uranium is upto us. About the Hyde Act, its a US domestic act whch binds only the US congress. India and the rest of the worlds got nuthn to do with that. Under Hyde Act the US can withdraw under certain circumstances whch the US feels is againt US interest. But as it is only a domestic act it does not apply to neother country. Its actually better that the US withdraws as that would allow us to buy more stuff frm Russia whch would be cheaper. The Hyde Act is God send and its implementation is a masterstroke frm our Foreign Ministry negotiators. Rememeber once India signs this deal its legally impossible to stop India frm buyinh uranium frm Russsia or ne other country even if the US is against it.

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RE:N Deal Facts
by Lalatendu Deo on Sep 06, 2007 11:46 PM  Permalink

There are lots of misconceptions in your posting. First of all, The deal is nothing but US and India Specific. Please do not have any other view to this, even if it is not very Specific about it. Please go through Mr. Kakodkars assertion yesterday telling that "India should be Allowed to Import Reactors from other Countries". What do you mean by this?

Secondly, the Hyde Act was passed just to contain India and the same will definitely be applied against India. Not just this act, but there are some more coming that would be acted against India, if India wishes to go its own way.

Do you think the US will honour in letter and spirit all those what is written there in the 123 Deal. Yes she will do so, as long as it suits her. The moment she thinks any thing against her benefit, those are simply dumped. And no one can tell a word against this Super Cop.

Logic do not apply to the US. It has its own logic to go by.


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RE:N Deal Facts
by Transformers on Sep 07, 2007 01:07 AM  Permalink
Mr. Kakodkars assertion yesterday telling that "India should be Allowed to Import Reactors from other Countries". was meant for the commies. wot he meant was we should sign this deal so we can buy reactors frm other countries. The deal is not between the US and India. The Hyde Act contains only the US congress as its a domestic US law. India got nuthn to do with the HYDE ACt. I don care wether US honore the agreementn or no, bt we sure are nt gonna honor the agreement if suddenly its of no use to us and trust me nobody would dare do nethn abt it.

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RE:N Deal Facts
by Lalatendu Deo on Sep 07, 2007 01:01 PM  Permalink

It is a genuine concern and is not for consumption of the Left Parties. Kakodkar is wise enough to tell something that may cost his job. Tell me as to whether we can go ahead and do not purchase reactors from the US. Hyde Act is a direction to the US Administration to do what and to do what not. And that governs the Deal, clearly. And there are several uneasiness in the Hyde Act. Had there been no connection, then why was it passed? It is India Specific as the 123 Deal is.

But I am interested that we should go ahad with the Deal. But there is a scope for a lot of improvements. And we should go for those, citing immense opposition from the Left. Otherwise also, we should should sign it.




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RE:india 2030: do we have to buy McUranium?
by Lalatendu Deo on Sep 06, 2007 11:02 PM  Permalink
No, I do not think we can bypass the US. The 123 Deal is the Gate way for NSG activities in India.

Self Reliant in energy is definitely what we should aim for. But achieving it is another thing. And solely depending upon it will not solve any of our problems.


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RE:RE:india 2030: do we have to buy McUranium?
by Lalatendu Deo on Sep 06, 2007 11:07 PM  Permalink
Even Dr. Kalam had hoped to achieve 25% of the total generation from the renewable one by 2030 AD. That means getting to that goal is really a big task.


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RE:india 2030: do we have to buy McUranium?
by Loan Shark on Sep 07, 2007 05:54 AM  Permalink
Kalam is gone

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No Way Out
by Lalatendu Deo on Sep 06, 2007 09:11 PM  Permalink 


There are not much options left for the NSG countries. They have something to sell and that they can not do so to any one of their liking. There are not many inside the group that require Nuclear fuel. And besides India there is no one else outside.

Once the gate is open by the Gate Keeper, there can not be direct contact between the NSG and India. And hense, the Agreement should be through.



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