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Why Congress afraid of voting
by sanjeev sharma on Sep 06, 2007 03:29 PM  Permalink 

Congress should allow the disscusion with Voting, than only the nos. in favour and against N Deal will come out. And if majority of parliamentarians are not in favour than country is not ready for this deal yet. One should follow the principle of democray and not the terrorism of external forces.

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Oppostion should quit parliament
by RAKESH DOGRA on Sep 06, 2007 03:08 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I think opposition should quit parliament as it did during last year of Rajiv Gandhi's rule.Ruling party and Left parties are playing role of both government and opposition and have littel or no regards for other parties.
Speaker is also not fair.His hate for BJP is too much and he just can not see any reason and blindly supports ruling party.
Why discussion can not take under a rule that requires voting. If govt. do not get full support of all memebers in parliament then the issue of nuclear deal must end there itself.I think in parliament only those bills or agreement should be valid which can be ratified by it by majority.That is true democracy.If a particular bill can not be passed in parliament how good it may be it only means that country is not ready for it.

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by dinesh kumar on Sep 06, 2007 03:14 PM  Permalink
under the constitution,there is no need for the government to seek ratification by parliament.
if u r living in india and have a little education u will understand that.
if u r from some other country,please read about our constitution before commenting.

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by george on Sep 06, 2007 03:20 PM  Permalink
Well.. the intellectual ability of Members of parliament is questionable. Most of them cant even read English. How can you expect them to make the right decision? remember this is the same set of people who kicked out Kalam from the presidency.
I am personally against the deal though.

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by aasman on Sep 06, 2007 03:34 PM  Permalink
intellect has nothing to do with politics.it never is elsewhere otherwise socrates would be a greek emperor and stalin would play opera in russian symphony.As of Kalam no one talks about the fate of Nag,Trishul and Aakash missiles.Afterall you don't ask missileman too many questions, otherwise there is only one answer!

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by aasman on Sep 06, 2007 03:42 PM  Permalink
you can't defeat America by playing the game according to its rules. you have to deal with it at your level because this Uncle doesn't takes no too kindly.

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RE:RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by dinesh kumar on Sep 06, 2007 03:40 PM  Permalink
intellect is not neede,a legal background is needed,which many of our politicians have.
the government selects the best brains to handle matters as is necessary.

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by raj on Sep 06, 2007 07:41 PM  Permalink
In your book US is a "cunning" country? Which one is the best ? China?

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RE:RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by wani bhardwaj on Sep 06, 2007 03:31 PM  Permalink
Our Rashtra Basha is HINDI. Make all laws in Hindi only. The problem will solve.

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RE:RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by Vinay Gupta on Sep 06, 2007 03:33 PM  Permalink
Kalam was KICKED out by ENGLISH knowing politician say Manmohan, Sonia, Karat etc etc.

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by dinesh kumar on Sep 06, 2007 03:38 PM  Permalink
when karunanidhi met kalam in august 2006 to find out about his plans for re election,what did kalam tell him?

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RE:RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by dinesh kumar on Sep 06, 2007 03:46 PM  Permalink
so what was karunanidhi to do?

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by dinesh kumar on Sep 06, 2007 03:27 PM  Permalink
on what basis do u question the intellectual ability?
what made u think that kalam was kicked out?
i think he had a decent last few days.
some people thought that kalam was a superman and the country could not get through without him,those people might also be thinking that he got kicked out.
kalam s record in office was blemished by a few
amateurish decisions.

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by george on Sep 06, 2007 03:31 PM  Permalink
Ameturish decisons? like what? sending back the "office for profit" bill? That was one of the best things he did.

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by sangineersha on Sep 06, 2007 03:31 PM  Permalink
dear dinesh,
every body in the world knows that kalam was thrown out. If you don't know that than ask even any school kid in india he will tell you.

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by Pune Java on Sep 06, 2007 03:38 PM  Permalink
Understand the poltical system of India too you Mr. Dinesh.Please READ THE NEWSPAPERS DAILY , NOT OCCASONALY.

Can u tell who has demanded the so-called ratification?

And what do you think this nuclear deal is internal matter of congress and communist so that they are forming a committee and discussing and deciding the future of India? As u claimed to understand constitution better , can you explain who is Supreme , Parliament or party. And in this ongoing matter, Party (Both Cong and Commu) seems to outwit the Parliament.

Donot sit idle, Standup and say that This Nuclear deal is not a Ghar KA Mamla of Cong and communist. It is matter which must be bring to parliament.


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RE:RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by dinesh kumar on Sep 06, 2007 03:50 PM  Permalink
abhishek singhvi has made it clear that if the bjp wishes to join the committee,it can also join the UPA.
it is a mechanism formulated by the UPA and its supporters.
the prime minister has made enough statements in the lok sabha to clarify matters.
there is no requirement to seek parliamentary approval.
it is the prerogative of the prime minister to make treaties.
what does the bjp want by asking for a vote?

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by wani bhardwaj on Sep 06, 2007 03:30 PM  Permalink
That is why we are asking for amendment in the Constitution. Congress is telling that it is not possible. We have amended over constitution number of times and the arguement is simply not digestable. So, if we have to safeguard our soverginity and integrity and for that if we wants to amend our constitution, it is our right. Nobody can make any protests or rights on this issue.

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RE:Oppostion should quit parliament
by Rajeev Kumar on Sep 06, 2007 03:44 PM  Permalink
Dear learned memebers, we should not emulate our distinguished Parliamentarians's behavior in the discussion related to National interest. At least the we ,common men should rise above our party affliation be it BJP, Cong or Laft and think objectively. though I have beee a BJP loyalist for a long time, but I strongly disaapove of its behaviour in and outside the Parliament. It is bahaving like a maniac who has been dethroned. I have been disenchanted with it and I am sure many right thinking supporters of BJP would agree with me.

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Oppostion should quit parliament
by RAKESH DOGRA on Sep 06, 2007 03:07 PM  Permalink 

I think opposition should quit parliament as it did during last year of Rajiv Gandhi's rule.Ruling party and Left parties are playing role of both government and opposition and have littel or no regards for other parties.
Speaker is also not fair.His hate for BJP is too much and he just can not see any reason and blindly supports ruling party.
Why discussion can not take under a rule that requires voting. If govt. do not get full support of all memebers in parliament then the issue of nuclear deal must end there itself.I think in parliament only those bills or agreement should be valid which can be ratified by it by majority.That is true democracy.If a particular bill can not be passed in parliament how good it may be it only means that country is not ready for it.

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RE:BJP- Bhartya Joker Party report card as opposition party
by ChutiyaRam Yachuri on Sep 06, 2007 03:09 PM  Permalink



What you have to say about Chinese People in India (CPI) by the way?

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RE:BJP- Bhartya Joker Party report card as opposition party
by Joyee Funee on Sep 06, 2007 03:09 PM  Permalink
Can u tell what UPA hs done for Common Man ?

Rising Inflation
Risisg Petrol Price
Rising Sucides of Farmaers
No Tax Benefit to Salaried Class
Asking Pardon to Afzal
No Trial for Mumbai Train Blast
Divison of INdia by Reservation
Now Sachar Commitee report

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RE:BJP- Bhartya Joker Party report card as opposition party
by dinesh kumar on Sep 06, 2007 03:16 PM  Permalink
if the bjp leaders had any calibre,they would have discussed all the issues that u have raised.
they are a hopeless bunch of rabble rousers.

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RE:RE:BJP- Bhartya Joker Party report card as opposition party
by Pune Java on Sep 06, 2007 03:43 PM  Permalink
hey Joyee Fune , your name too start with letter J . As per your view J stands for Joker ,and you proved it too who is Joker ,by using your right to freedom of expression

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RE:RE:RE:BJP- Bhartya Joker Party report card as opposition party
by Joyee Funee on Sep 06, 2007 03:53 PM  Permalink
and from initials it proves u r from P = Pakistan

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RE:RE:RE:RE:BJP- Bhartya Joker Party report card as opposition party
by Pune Java on Sep 06, 2007 04:02 PM  Permalink
Itni Buri Gali to maat do yaar. We have difference of opinion , we are not enemy. Please realize it.

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Communists are very bad people. But say NO to nuclear plants
by jagan on Sep 06, 2007 02:59 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The nuclear industry, despite assertions to the contrary, is facing spiralling costs, construction delays, safety failings and a falling global demand for nuclear technology. Just look at Europe's newest reactor in Finland. It's just being built but has already run into a spot of bother. After 18 months the construction project is 18 months behind schedule and a whopping %u20AC700 million over budget.

The average construction time for nuclear plants has increased from 66 months when they were first introduced, to 116 months - that's nearly a decade.

The longer construction times are due to increasingly complex reactor designs, and this new generation of untested reactors are already experiencing serious safety problems, which are likely to lead to further delays and higher costs.


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RE:Communists are very bad people. But say NO to nuclear plants
by Buggs Bunney on Sep 06, 2007 03:36 PM  Permalink

these are fake communists infesting the republic of india because they support islamic fundamentalists.

communism only concerns the difference between rich & poor i.e. the class struggle. genuine communists never support racial, religious, ethnic or language groups.

true communists as found in the erstwhile soviet union and china would never associate with religion and suppress all religious activities. the soviets suppressed the church while the chinese suppressed all buddhist & taoist activities.

always use the term "fake" or "self-styled" when describing the calcutta communists

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RE:Communists are very bad people. But say NO to nuclear plants
by jagan on Sep 06, 2007 03:50 PM  Permalink
BUT SAY NO TO NUCLEAR PLANTS.

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Hell with these parties
by R Sagi on Sep 06, 2007 02:51 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

These communist parties got a very good opportunity in the form of nuclear deal. Many people in the country know these parties are there. But now they are getting good publicity from the media and the people. This seems to be their strategy. They oppose just for the sake of it. No matter whether it is useful or not. We must punish these parties by voting against them

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RE:Hell with these parties
by Buggs Bunney on Sep 06, 2007 03:37 PM  Permalink

these are fake communists infesting the republic of india because they support islamic fundamentalists.

communism only concerns the difference between rich & poor i.e. the class struggle. genuine communists never support racial, religious, ethnic or language groups.

true communists as found in the erstwhile soviet union and china would never associate with religion and suppress all religious activities. the soviets suppressed the church while the chinese suppressed all buddhist & taoist activities.

always use the term "fake" or "self-styled" when describing the calcutta communists

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RE:Hell with these parties
by smarajit sarkar on Sep 06, 2007 03:33 PM  Permalink
I am no supporter of the Left but I get upset with these netpeople pasting the websites with their hatred for anybody asking questions against the Unitedly Selfish Americans.You may not agree with Karat, But that doesn't give netfolks the right to savage the Left in the rather uncivilized manner in which they are doing now. Look what has happened to the countries that accepted American hegemony unquestioningly. Look what is happening to Pakistan. The country was used by the US in every possible way. the USA is the only 'Krishna' and we are all expected to dance to its "bansuri", the way the blue-turbaned Manmohan Singh doing. any human being who has self respect should oppose it. one thing i want to know if left is the "chamcha" of china is bjp chamcha of pakistan?

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RE:Hell with these parties
by ChutiyaRam Yachuri on Sep 06, 2007 03:00 PM  Permalink


You can not ignore the angle of foreign (Chinese)fund flowing in to make to noise.

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RE:Hell with these parties
by wani bhardwaj on Sep 06, 2007 03:13 PM  Permalink
Why don't you takes action against them?

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INDIAN LEADERS ARE WORKLESS
by NIRMAL KUMAR PATRA on Sep 06, 2007 02:51 PM  Permalink 

THEY HAVE NO WORK, SO THEY USE THE PARLIAMENT AS AN EVENTFUL PLACE AND ENJOY THE AIR CONDITION'S FRESH AIR BY POUR PEOPLES MONEY BY VARIOUS TAX. IN MY VIEW PARLIAMENT SHOULD BE CLOSED PERMANENTLY, BECAUSE NOW IT HAS BEEN CONVERT TO CRIMINALS, ANTI SOCIALS AND UNDERWORLD PEOPLES SAFETY PLACE.

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NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS ARE MORE DANGEROUS AND COSTLY - SEE UK GREEN PEACE WEBSITES
by wani bhardwaj on Sep 06, 2007 02:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The nuclear industry is hugely expensive. The construction and generating costs of nuclear power are greater than most renewable energy and energy efficiency technologies. Added to these are costs associated with dismantling nuclear stations and waste disposal. The clean up costs for the UK%u2019s existing nuclear industry and its waste have alone been estimated at up to £100bn. That's £100bn of public money.
SEE THINK INDIAN PEOPLE WHETHER WE NEED THIS TYPE OF ELECTRICITY AND AGREEMENT OF THE OUTDATED POLICIES OF US IMPERLIAST FORCES. WE REQUEST PATRIOTIC INDIANS START A FRESH AGITATION, EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT THE DANGER OF THIS DEAL AND GET OUT FROM THIS SELLING OF OUR COUNTRY'S SOVERIGNITY TO WESTERN/US POWERS BY SPONSORS OF UPA

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RE:NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS ARE MORE DANGEROUS AND COSTLY - SEE UK GREEN PEACE WEBSITES
by ChutiyaRam Yachuri on Sep 06, 2007 02:58 PM  Permalink


Wani,

The cost of nuclear enery is more than renewable energy, if you are planning to generate the nuclear enery to cook your food.

To cater the growing energy demand, renewable sources of enery are inadequate to meet the demand in short run.

BTW you also seems to be an associate of Sahdevan.

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RE:NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS ARE MORE DANGEROUS AND COSTLY - SEE UK GREEN PEACE WEBSITES
by wani bhardwaj on Sep 06, 2007 03:26 PM  Permalink
You are seeing only small ray of hope, but the biggest danger is not. We have seen the rate of ENRON Electricity in Maharashtra. Irrespective of the supporters and anti supporters of this 123 deal, all are agreeing that the rate of electricity charge will increase and it is not a cheaper one. I also request the people who are blindly supporting this dangerous deal, to take into confidence of our own scientists and ask them to make alternative sources. Take suggestions already made by our ex-Hon'ble People's President, Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam as well.
BTW : If you are seeing that I am an associate of Sahadevn, it is not my fault. I have written various statements against some of the ideology of Mr. Sahadevan as well. I am not a blindly supporter of any political outfit, please note.

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