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Shame on all Bengalis
by Amakant Chaudhary on Nov 25, 2007 08:35 AM  Permalink 

Shame on all the impotent 'bhadralok' of West Bengal. Especially the Hindus for alloing their state to become mini-Bangladesh. And shame on people of Delhi & Mumbai for allowing their cities to become clones of mini-Bangladeshs. Congress & CPM are responsible for this sad stae of affairs.

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Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by jamsheed abumohammed on Nov 25, 2007 08:11 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Taslima Nasreen was welcomed by West Bengal Government and treated as a State Guest by Rajestan Government. Ironically, former was run by CPM and the latter by BJP. Both have sudden love for this lady not because she needs help but because she wrote something against Islam. Similarly, Salman Rushdie, another big muslim hater found refuge in Britain and elsewhere after he wrote his infamous "Satanic Verses" a book against Islam. These unislamic persons are welcomed in India. Why so much rush to help Taslima. If she has done something wrong let her face the justice in her own land. Why give refuge to such people. It does no good to the image of India, but it will carry negative tidings for all the muslim world that anybody who writes against Islam is welcomed in India. Budha and Rajascindia beware of this danger. Dont let your antagonism against Islam and muslim ruin the India's secular image abroad, particularly in the Muslim World, where in gulf many of our Indians are earning their bread and butter. These acts should not endanger our brothers working in the gulf countries. Let India carry a message of peace and love for Islam and muslims. These blashphemy writers have no place in the country. Let them write in their own land and face the music, why come to India and create all sorts of problems for already problem infested areas. Indian government will do well to advise these State Governments to keep the Indian image clean.

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by MGR Fan on Nov 25, 2007 09:37 AM  Permalink
Mr Jamsheed, are you ready to say the same about Mr. Karunanidhi, who keeps insulting the sentiments of crores of Hindus. I agree that Taslima must be deported,but same should apply to Karuna too.

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:43 AM  Permalink
Lolz What would Jamsheed lose if Karunanidhi is deported? :))

I asked him about MF Hussain and he is yet to respond :))

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by jamsheed abumohammed on Nov 25, 2007 12:43 PM  Permalink
Mr. MGR Fan, Mr. Karunanidhi, is a legendary statesman. You cannot equate him with anybody. He is above all, tallest among the politicians. He has a right to express his opinion and whats wrong in it. He never insulted any religion so far. He only expressed his views and thats not wrong at all. India is a democratic country and every citizen has his right to say what is constitutionally and legally correct. Anybody disputing such utterances should fight him equally with facts and figures and quotes from history. Karunanidhi is an astute politicians and his knowledge of politics in unique and unparrellel. Can anybody match his political acumen and satirical comments. Long live Karunanidhi and he will continue to work for the welfare of muslims in particular. Look how he made reservations for muslims and christian at 3.5% in employment and education. Did anybody have the guts to make such announcement. It is only DMK and Mr. Karunanidhi alone could do it. The BJP and Congress are equally guilty of playing caste politics and dividing people, while Mr. karunanidhi and DMK have always championed the cause of minorities and muslim in particular. We are eternally grateful to Mr. Karunanidhi and he is real answer to the BJP in North. We the muslim will continue to rally behind Mr. Karunanidhi and DMK in all the years to come and see BJP is uprooted from the south. All right thinking people should join us in uprooting the BJP from the peaceful south. Karnataka has done well recently

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 02:20 PM  Permalink
If Karunanidhi is the tallest among politicians then Taslima must be a Nobel Peace Prize winner Lolz :))

If you say Karunanidhi has not insulted anyone then I can say Taslima is the best human being who didnt write anything at all against anyone :))

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by arvind rb on Nov 25, 2007 08:34 AM  Permalink
Can you tell me one thing that she wrote against Islam ... you have a mojor problem ... You have no Brains .... All she wrote is about Hindus girl being raped in bangadesha nd their plight ....Peoiple like you hate and hate and then you have the counter hate of Hindus like in form of Gujrat... it is always the muslims who start it all

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by balaord on Nov 25, 2007 08:52 AM  Permalink
why cant Hindu organizatons take Bangla govt to some international courts if what they belive in Taslima?when they can do it for so many things,atleast these oraganizations can run some campaign to highlight that "plights"!!!

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RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:01 AM  Permalink
By the same logic, why didnt the Muslim Organizations take Taslima, Modi or Rushdie to the courts instead of protesting on the streets? One rule for you and another for the Hindus? LOLZ

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RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:28 AM  Permalink
"Brothers" too? Man .. are you a bi????

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 08:30 AM  Permalink
Why the hell do we need to care about the Gulf countries? Which country supported India's stance on Kashmir except Iraq? We dont need to give any importance to those countries which are not worth even a mention.

Talking about Taslima, How come I didnt find a name that sounds like MF Hussain in your message? Is blood really thicker than water?

You guys support Hussein but oppose Taslima and BJP opposes Hussein but supports Taslima .. Big Deal?

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RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 08:33 AM  Permalink
Iraq under Saddam was the only country that was supportive of India and its an irony that India could not reciprocate. In fact Iraq was more secular than any other Gulf country and its a Pity, US attacked that country, of all the countries.

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RE:RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Aramac Memon on Nov 25, 2007 08:57 AM  Permalink
SADDAM THOUGHT THAT INDIRA GANDHI WAS STILL RULING.. HE GOT SOME HELP IN LATE 1970S FROM INDIRA.. ON IMPROVING INDUSTRIES IN IRAQ...



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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:08 AM  Permalink
Right! We he helped them and he had been sincere and grateful for whatever little we did unlike the other countries!

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Indo Maratha on Nov 25, 2007 08:34 AM  Permalink
Well Said!!A carefully hidden threat to all Indians in Gulf. My request is if you plan to kill them, kill them when they are working. They will goto our heaven. Men who die doing their job go to heaven for us man. Thats Hinduism for you!

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RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Aramac Memon on Nov 25, 2007 08:59 AM  Permalink
THEY WILL STOP OIL EXPORT AND YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WILL DIE IN STREETS. YOU AND BJP OPPOSED NUCLEAR DEAL. HOPE IT IS OK FOR YOU TO DIE LIKE DOGS IN STREETS OF MUMBAI LACKING IN FOOD, CLOTH, WATER AND HOSPITALS...

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RE:RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:12 AM  Permalink
How much Oil does India get from Gulf? If i am not wrong India gets most of its Oil from Malaysia and is now looking at Africa.

If Gulf stops oil supply US will start it .. as such US contols all the oil fields in Iraq and of course we have Russia to back it up!

Who told you I am against the Nuclear deal dude? In fact the day we start using Nuclear and Hydrogen technology in small scale .. we will be Energy Self Sufficient and hopefully the day is not far!

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RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Aramac Memon on Nov 25, 2007 09:04 AM  Permalink
ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE FOOLING OTHERS.

BJP ENJOYS SUPPORT OT 2-3% INDIANS (THE REST VOTE FOR BJP AND ALLIES BECUASE THEY HATED SOMEONE ELSE)

CPM ENJOYS SUPPORT 1.15% OF INDIANS AT A MAXIMUM..

INC GET 17% OF INDIAN VOTES ALL THE TIME... (PEOPLE STILL VOTE FOR NEHRU AND INDRIA GANDHI)

ILLITERATES AND IDIOTS GET THE GOVT THEY DEserVE


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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:27 AM  Permalink
My dear Professor of the World History, in India all that matters is the final number of votes a party gets - the reasons don't matter! Did you forget to read your books while asking others to do so .. hehe :))

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Aramac Memon on Nov 25, 2007 08:50 AM  Permalink
WHAT STANCE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. GULD COUNTRIES SUPPORTED INDIA UNTIL 1989 WHEN IDIOT VP SINGH MESSED UP WITH RUBIA SAIS KIDNAPPING AND LET TERRORIST TAKE OVER...

THEN BJP'S JAGMOHAN MESSED IT UP FURTHER...

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RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 08:58 AM  Permalink
No Way! the OIC never agreed with the Shimla accord. Barring Iraq, they have always taken the Pakistani side.

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RE:RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Aramac Memon on Nov 25, 2007 09:09 AM  Permalink
INDIA WAS A PART OF OIC'S PREDICESSOR (ISLAMIC COUNTRIES CONFERENCE) UNTIL 1969.. DID YOU KNOW THAT??

INDIA WAS ALSO A PART OF EARLY OIC UNTIL 1979 AS AN OBSERVING MEMBER...

India's candidature in oic was supported by several OIC members including Saudi Arabia and Egypt. But stiff oposition from Pakistan prevented India's FULL membership.

DO NOT SHOW YOUR IGNORANCE ON WORLD HISTORY- READ SOME BOOKS..

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RE:RE:RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:14 AM  Permalink
I am not talking about OIC membership dude, I am talking about Kashmir - Which Gulf country has support India on Kashmir issue and When?

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RE:RE:RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:16 AM  Permalink
By the way - Gulf History may be the World History for you .. but for me, the World is much more than the Gulf!

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RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:04 AM  Permalink
Indian needed their support after 1989, for that was the starting year of terrorism and those Gulf countries ditched us royally!

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by jamsheed abumohammed on Nov 25, 2007 08:42 AM  Permalink
Why should we care about gulf countries, ask thousands of Indians working there, particularly in Kerala. In Gulf countries, every body is free to practise religion and never enter into any argument or writing anything against any religion. Its only in India such a stupid thing is happening mainly because of its hate towards a monlithic religion called Islam. Muslim haters should desist from doing it. See how we are treated with dignity and honour in the gulf countries. Our Forex reserve is swelling because of the petro-dollar and lets be grateful the Gulf countries. These are the countries who came to our help an solve our unemployment problem, raised our Forex reserves, made many Indians particularly labourers wealthy. Lets not forget the charity of these big hearted muslim countries. India must be eternally grateful to the Gulf countries for making many of Indians rich and famous. Kerala and Hydrabad are the shining examples of the boom they experienced after their people migrated to the gulf countries. Every third person in Kerala an Hydrabad is in Gulf, labouring their feeding their kith and kin in India. Gulf countries gave us prosperity, lets not forget it. People are still rushing to these countries to seek pasteurs new. Ofcourse, Indians have contributed to the development of these countries, Gulf countries are fully aware of the contributions. That is why Indians are most welcomed there than Pakistanis. Lets be realistic friends.

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by rangarajan dikhata on Nov 25, 2007 02:01 PM  Permalink
Apparently u do not read the news . there are More people who becom paupers because of the unscruplous mallus there who are cheating the indian public , if u see that Andhra pradesh or hyderabad did not develop because of petro dollars it isbecause of the services sector and
IT .fter all what do you muslims know abiut services and IT except for seeing the porn sites and hacking others sites .Regarding Kerala , there is no development there except the development of the liquor industry and that too with the money obtaine d by cheating the others .

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 08:55 AM  Permalink
Our Forex reserve is Swelling because of the IT Boom too ...

They have come to us for the sake of cheap labor .. not to solve our unemployment problem - The moment find cheaper labor with better skills somewhere else they will dump India ... We dont need to care a damn about such Unreliable countries.

Indian Govbt didnt request the Gulf based NRIs to gop there .. they went there on their own and they are very well aware of the risks ..

WE INDIANS HAVE GIVEN THE GULF COUNTRIES ( For the matter even the US) the prosperity - not vice-versa.

Indians living in India are more important to the nation than the Indians living abroad.

The same thing applies to me too - I have come down to a foreign nation on my own and its my problem if something goes wrong here .. I can not ask India to change her policies just to accommodate me .. People living in India must be the nation's first choice!



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RE:RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by Aramac Memon on Nov 25, 2007 08:55 AM  Permalink
GULF COUNTRIES ARE NOT GIVING ANYONE ANY PROPSERITY.

IT WILL TAKE 150 US DOLLARS TO PUMP OUT A BARRELL JUST USING LOCALS. THEY IMPORTED CHEAP LABOR AND NOW THEY CAN PUMP OIL FOR 4-5 DOLLARS..

JUST HAVING RAW MATERIALS IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ANY NATION TO PROSPER YOU NEED TO INDUSTRIALIZE IT USING LABOR...

IT IS MIGHTY STUPID TO ASSUME THAT GULD COUNTRIES ARE PROVIDING INDIA A HELP..

INDIAN IS THE 3RD LARGEST OIL CUSTOMER ALSO....

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RE:Taslima Nasreen - Persona non-grata
by gopal popati on Nov 25, 2007 02:48 PM  Permalink
Hey Jamsheeed, who are you? i don't think you are a indian.Indian People work in gulf only because they are lacking in skill & necessary knowledge? Why should we be grateful about Gulf.
None of the Hindus working there is allowed to carry any picture of Hindy Gods. What kind of secularism they have? Hindus are not allowed to eat anything outside during Ramzan,do you call it freedom?. Accept the fact that muslims are safe herein india only because of peace-loving hindus. If you are so much proud about arabic countries you may go there permenamntly.Do not try to spread hate among indian for India.

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The Congress is the Messiah
by Lalu Prasad Yadav on Nov 25, 2007 07:17 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

There is no alternative to the Congress in India today with fundamentalists of all hues creating havoc in the country! It is the only party that has enlightened, educated leaders unlike the BJP that is a party of the thugs and goons!

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RE:The Congress is the Messiah
by Prem Mohan on Nov 25, 2007 08:31 AM  Permalink
Only under the leadership of Mdm Sonia Gandhi and Mr Rahul Gandhi will India be safe.

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RE:RE:The Congress is the Messiah
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 08:01 AM  Permalink
You and I cant decide who is the best .. at the end of the day it is the opinion of the Majority that counts - we can never predict the mindset of One Billion people!

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NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by arjun on Nov 25, 2007 07:04 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

For all those morons who are daring to write against hinduism should see october edition of newsweek in usa-shaaaaaame.the root cause is shameful involvement of religion in every affair of country-those idiots who are mentioning ghouri and ghazni should see how pakistan will kicked in its butt and tore to pieces by israel and usa.For those morons who think ghouri or ghazni has done great-they need hang their heads in shame how a tiny israel is screwing and kicking islamic nations from pakistan to saudi.What ghazni has achieved israel can do it one night by whipping islamic nations in one night-just one night-shaame.

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RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by balaord on Nov 25, 2007 08:42 AM  Permalink
stupid arjun?are you nuts???according to you
A crtic of Hinduism should read newsweek to know about pakistan as a failed state?
what do you mean here?
The most econmically advanced country Netherlands had legalized prostitution and gay marriage..
now are you saying "Netherlandism" is better than all other philiosphies??
Such a low IQ moron you are!!!

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RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Seeker on Nov 25, 2007 07:12 AM  Permalink
well Mr arjun i didnt get what was shameful in that?
u mean to say that we adopt violent practises like israel and pakistan? didnt get ur logic.
if u want to promote violence then remember that no israeli can go out in public and expect to come back home safely.
this is all because of the violent poilicies of israelis.
instead if the israelis had taken the trouble to sort out their differences with their neighbours they wud have been an oasis of peace among their neighbours.
some people never learn how to be peaceful.
and they say muslims are violent.
pity.

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RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Sanjay Enselvan on Nov 25, 2007 07:20 AM  Permalink
Mr.Seeker
when did you find that israel is unsafe-you must read news to update before coming to forum and start educating world.You mean to say that a country that is feared by every muslim in this world is survining in fear????You need some education about virulent policies of muslims on others and how they are inviting trouble.You mean to say usa and europe and india are wrong as being writen by some crooks here.?????

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RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Seeker on Nov 25, 2007 07:27 AM  Permalink
Mr Bharadwaj.. to answer ur question.
israel didnt exists before the world wars. if someone comes and camps in front of ur house and puts up his own house and asks u to vacate will u willingly do so? same has happened with palestine. neway since u wont understand there is no point to explain that israel is jjust a front for US power in the gulf and i might add it has been successful in keeping the fanatics in the gulf under control due to fear.
Mr Sanjay-==>
muslims dont fear israel. its the people in govts like saudi etc who fear the loss of their power. muslims dont have 'virulent policies' against others. muslims want to be left in peace. its the fanatics amongst us who are the equivalent of RSS/bajrang dal who dont want peace. these are encouraged by the politicians in india/paksitan.
yes the US and europe are indeed in wrong in believing that just by merely killing others the problem will be solved. we have to delve deeper as to why these fanatics are gainign hold. a simple education and poverty alleviation will more than halve the number of terrorists coming from the backward regions of pakistan and other supposedly muslim countries.
hope i answered ur question

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RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 07:41 AM  Permalink
When I say Israel, I meant Israel and/or US .. I dont see them as two separate entities ..

Coming to your point I was asking you specifically about attacking the Civilians - If Palestine guys are so sincere and humane, why cant they limit themselves to Palestine Army?

The Britishers did the same to Indians too but we Indians never attacked British Civilians ... Even Bhagath Singh attacked only the law makers!

You just cant keep killing Civilians and expect a nation not to retaliate ...

You mean to say Israel should not exist anymore because it didnt not exist before Worldwars?

That way take Iran's case - The local Parsi culture has been annihilated by Islam politically and culturally ...Do you mean to say Iran's Muslims dont have any right to exist?

If we look at the history there have been multiple instances of occupation .. be it Eurpoeans killing Red Indians and occupying the US, China doing it to Tibet or Islamists doing it in the Gulf .. all in the name of Crusades and Holy wars.

We have to live int he present .. not with the pre-worldwar maps


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RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Aramac Memon on Nov 25, 2007 09:15 AM  Permalink
ARE YOU LIVING IN MARS... THE WORLD UNTIL 1945 WAS A VIOLENT ONE. WHEN KINGS AND COUNTRIES ATTACKED EACH OTHER FOR RESOURCES AND POWER...

WWI AND WWII WERE TURNING POINTS IN WORLD HISTORY. AFTER WWII THERE IS NOT A SINGLE WAR OF OCCUPTION WHERE FOREIGN FORCES TAKE CONTROL OF A COUNTRY AND KILL ALL THE CITIZENS AND ENSLAVE THEM AND TAKE OVER ALL THE MINERAL WEALTH (INCLUDING CHINA OCCUPYING TIBER - THERE WAS NO WAR.. THE OPPOSING LAMA FOR DALAI LAMA STILL RULES TIBET UNDER THE 'PROTECTION' OF CHINA)..

BEFORE 1945 EVERYONE HAD DONE EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE SO CALLED PEACEFUL INDIA..

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RE:RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:32 AM  Permalink
Prof. Memon, doesnt the immense knowledge you possess in the world history tell you that even before 1945 there havent been many (if at all any) wars which killed ALL THE CITIZENS of a country ..

As of occupation ... why dont you refer to some of the recent wars?

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RE:RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 07:44 AM  Permalink
The terrorists might have got good support from Hindus if they had attacked the politicians instead of the common man .. Let them attack Congress, BJP, Janata Dal, BSP and the Communist leaders .. Trust me, the common man would celebrate on the streets!

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RE:RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:24 AM  Permalink
Yes World until 1945 was Violent ... So what your point here?

I think the India Pakistan and the US Iraq and US Afghan wars have occured after WW2 :))

You dont need to live on Mars to know this :))

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RE:RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Truth BeTold on Nov 25, 2007 08:29 AM  Permalink
Seeker, you should check your history first. Israel existed long before Islam was invented. Islam is just a 1600 yr old religion (and a most violent one at that). And by the way, the surrounding Arab countries DO fear Israel after Israel beat the hell out of them in the mid-east war in 70s.

You also say that the governments fear Israel and not the people. Can you tell me who is in the govt? Are they not your muslim brotheren? They are the ones who are corrupt and stupid. They are the ones who are exploiting common people and enfore a pre-historic law such as Sharia.

Education and poverty is a problem not only in the muslim world, why then the others don't take up arms and keep killing everyone else? Why are Muslims involved in every major conflict in the world? Why Muslims in India cry for a dead palestinian than crying for a next door Hindu? Why Muslims have romantic views about Ummah rather than being loyal to their country of residence? Islam is a anti-people and anti-world and its days are numbered.

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RE:RE:RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 09:35 AM  Permalink
The guy who tried to Bomb the Glasgow airport to take revenge on UK for the attack on Iraq was not from Ghettos .. he was a well educated Masters degree holder!

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RE:RE:RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Aramac Memon on Nov 25, 2007 09:25 AM  Permalink
GOOD QUESTION.. WHY DOES MUSLIM CRIES FOR PLASTINEIANS THAN A DEAD HINDU NEXT DOOR...

MULSIMS DID NOT HAVE ANY LEADERSHIP IN INDIA AFTER THE DEATH OF MAULANA AZAAD...

WHAT WILL THEY DO.... THEY WILL LISTEN TO ANY IDIOT WHO SAYD SOMETHING WHICH MAKES SENSE...

THEY ARE SUPSECIOUS OF CONGRESS, THEY FEAR BJP, THEY ARE FRIGHTFULL OF VP SINGH PARTY AND THEY ARE CONFUED ABOUT THE INTENTIONS OF COMMUNISTS...

SO IF SOMEONE TELLS THEM THAT BIN LADEN IS THE BEST PERSON IN THE WORLD THEY BELIEVE THEM BECUASE THEY DO NOT KNOW BETTER...

DID YOU KNOW THAT 85% OF INDIAN MUSLIMS LIVE IN GHETOOS. (MUSLIM COLONIES AWAY FOM REST OF INDIANS...). YOU MIGHT SAY THAT IT IS MUSLIMS WHO MOVED TO GEHTOOS. TO UNDERSTAND THIS YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND HISTORY. AFTER PARTITION WHEN ALL MUSLIMS WERE MOVING TO PAKISTAN THESE PEOPLE STAYED BEHIND AND THEY STILL FEEL INSECURE...
INDIAN LEADERS SHOULD SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND THEN YOU CAN FIND MUSLIMS TO BE MORE PATRIOTIC THAN BJP..

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RE:NEWSWEEK HEADLINES-Pakistan most dangerous country in the world
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 07:19 AM  Permalink
Lolz putting hte entire blame on Israel right? Why cant Palestine guys stop attacking Israeli civilians and sort of the differences? Israel of late has only been reactive!

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India a complete hostage.
by Partho Chaterjee on Nov 25, 2007 04:22 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Musulims have 2 parts. One is actively engaged in bomblasting and threatening business. See how they threaten the country that India will burn (Including congressi Ghulam Nabi Azad) if AFZAL GURU will be hanged as supreme court has decided.

The 2nd part is is silently approving all what is happening.

So much the lust of congressi hindus for power is that they dont speak a single word when we are blasted, even temples are given a protection where some muslims say that they are vicitim of oppression !

They have no shame.

They shamefull advocate how bad we are, how faulty our religion is, how wrong our culture is, but non of them want to live with muslims, they DO want to live with us.

SOME TIMES LATER IN HISTORY, THE PRESENT DAY CONGRESSIS WILL BE REMEMBERED LIKE JAICHAND WHO BROUGHT MOHAMMED GHOURI AND DEFEATED PRITHIRAJ,BEGINNING THE HORRORS OF 6 CENTURIES OF NON-STOP PROUD AND HAPPY MASSACRES AFTER MASSACRES, AND NOT A SINGLE, OUT OF 500 MILLOIN MUSLIMS OF SOUTH ASIA HAS ANY SYMPATHY OR CRTICISM OF THEIR HORRENDOUS DEEDS.

PLS MUSLIMS LEARN AT LEAST FROM YOUR OWN SUPPORTER SHRI RAGDEEP DESAI WHO AT ANY OPPORTUNITY JUMPS TO LAMBAST HINDU GROUPS, BUT KEEPS STRAGE SILENCE WHEN MUSLIMS BLAST US, OR WHEN MUSLIM MLAs SAY - " WE ARE MUSLIMS FIRST INDIANS LATER".

MUSLIMS CELEBRITIES LIKE SRK,FARHA,JAVEDAKHTER..WRITE AND DIRECT SUCH FILMS WHERE HINDUS ARE INDIRECTLY SHOWN AS NARROW MINDED HATEFUL PEOPLE AND THE MUSLIMS ARE THE REAL BROADMINDED (!) PATRIOTS AND BRAIN WASHING O

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RE:India a complete hostage.
by Y Singh on Nov 25, 2007 06:31 AM  Permalink
HINDU ISLAMIST PARTIES ARE MORE DANGEROUS THAN JEM, HUJI ETC FOR OUR COUNTRY.

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RE:India a complete hostage.
by Aramac Memon on Nov 25, 2007 09:29 AM  Permalink
INDIA'S MUSLIM POPULATION IS 200 MILLION. IF MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL HINDUS THERE WILL BE CIVIL WAR... IF YOU WANT A CIVIL WAR GO AHEAD WITH YOUR IDEALOGY AND INDIA WILL CEASE TO EXIST IN 30 DAYS...

ABOUT 500 MILLION WILL DIE AND IT WILL TAKE 50 YEARS TO SETTLE THE DISPLUTE... LET US START A CIVIL WAR NOW.. IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED SHUT UP AND SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP TO LEAD PEOPLE AND NOT DIVIDE THEM

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RE:India a complete hostage.
by Seeker on Nov 25, 2007 06:59 AM  Permalink
wow!!!
one more muslim hater...
i dont know what u have against us.
being silent doesnt mean we are 'approving'
it means that we are helpless.
when we try to explain u idiots shout and claim that islam is violent.
when u r not ready to listen its futile to voice our opinion.
neway voicing our opinion will only earn us ur contempt and most probably tha fanatics among us will only kill us.
its no use trying to stop ur hate campaign. i see that u have decided that muslims are violent killers and no other proof to the contary will stop u from believing so. then why do u wan us to open our mouths?
if u believe that Javed akhtar, srk and farah are not broadminded then dont watch their films .. who is forcing u?
we moderates wan to live in peace. if u dont want to live with us its ur problem. india is a secular country. u want a hindu rajya go to nepal. its a hindu kingdom. u will have a nice time with the maoists

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RE:India a complete hostage.
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 07:32 AM  Permalink
When Gujarat killings happened ... many Hindus criticized and condemned it ... even now there are many Hindus who feel that those killings are wrong and there have been numerous messages on Rediff Boards against Killings and Modi ..

Why is it that not many muslims even bothered to condemn a terrorist incident when the suspects are Muslims? Do you call it helplessness or callousness?

Hindus canvote against Hindtwa parties if they feel they are getting too aggressive .. can the muslims think of defeating a Muslim candidate in a muslim majority area?

By resorting to Muslim-Muslim bhai bhai tactics, some people (Agreed you may not be part of those groups and you may even oppose them) are only promoting hte same thing on the Hindu side too!


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RE:RE:India a complete hostage.
by balaord on Nov 25, 2007 08:29 AM  Permalink
Bhardwaj Velamakanni - do you mean to say ,Majority of Gujarties critized Modi , by selecting him as a cheif minister???



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RE:India a complete hostage.
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 08:47 AM  Permalink
I didnt say Majority Gujaratis ... I said "Many Hindus" and I referred to Hindus allover the world - not Just Gujarat ...

If you think Modi is only a Gujarati issue then I have no problems .. let only Gujaratis talk about Modi and let No Non Gujarati Hindu or Muslim talk about Modi - Let Gujaratis decide their own fate - if they like Modi they will elect him and if not they would dump him.

But it is a well known fact that the number of Hindus who criticized Modi is much more than the number of Muslims who criticized Bukhari, Osama or any of their cousins!


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RE:India a complete hostage.
by Sanjay Enselvan on Nov 25, 2007 07:28 AM  Permalink
Seeker
what did you say-muslims are broadminded>?????You sure need some antidepressive shock treatment-probabbly a slap to ake up and see what impotent jihadis are doing.You cannot show a secular islaic country ith decent scientific advancement but you come to this forum to say muslims are broadminded-you need sense to understand why people are writing against islam-some basic sense.

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RE:Try to understand WHAT IS JIHAD
by Blogger on Nov 25, 2007 03:41 AM  Permalink
yes ISLAM is the true religion..
Only one GOD..it's not a stone or idol
it comes from the heart and it's derived..
Muslims knows what the religions is of..
and it doesn't need ur explanation
so as long this world exists ISLAM will also exists..
If anybody is trying to destroy us we have to defense..
We are not trying to attack any other religion..


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RE:Try to understand WHAT IS JIHAD
by Truth BeTold on Nov 25, 2007 03:45 AM  Permalink
Go learn English first. Islam came after all the major religions and will go before all of them. Because its not a religion its a cancer.

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RE:Try to understand WHAT IS JIHAD
by Taj basha on Nov 25, 2007 03:54 AM  Permalink
Peace be upon you All! Dear All Isalm is a religion of Peace and this religion followed by all the Prophets of God starting from Adam, Noah, Ibrahim, Jessus till Mohammed peace be upon them all, And we don't find any difference between these Prohphets... reason simple they all follow the same religion of God that is submitting will to God Alimight and that is Islam... Islam means submission to the will of God... visit islamalways.com islam-guide.com and read more thank you....

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RE:Try to understand WHAT IS JIHAD
by Suman Das on Nov 25, 2007 04:59 AM  Permalink
Personally, I don't believe in something that creates divide between people. Organized religion like Hindu, Islam, Christianity etc all do this.
Beyond Humanity, I dont need to follow any such religion yet still remain a (reasonably good) human being. Unfortunately, its people like me who seem to be the actual MINORITY in this world.

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Its CPIM's own making - classic case of frankeinstein
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Nov 25, 2007 02:20 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies


Its CPIM's own making - for last 30 years CPIM gave support, took support to/from these regressive Jehadi, Islamists to retain power.

ITS A CLASSIC CASE OF FRANKEINSTEIN.

EVEN TODAY'S CPIM's OPPOSITION OF INDO-US N-DEAL/Strategic relationship with US IS TO FEED THESE REGRESSIVE ISLAMISTS.

WHILE BANGLADESH DESCENDED INTO ISLAMIC REPUBLIC - CPIM KEPT MUM FOR MUSLIM VOTE, LITTLE REALIZING BANGLADESH IS JUST 50 KM AWAY FROM WEST BENGAL.

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RE:Its CPIM's own making - classic case of frankeinstein
by Lalu Prasad Yadav on Nov 25, 2007 07:21 AM  Permalink
HEY YOU ARE WAY OUT OF YOUR MARK! It is the MURDEROUS, OBSCURANTIST HINDU COMMUNAL FORCES THAT ARE REGRESSIVE.

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RE:Its CPIM's own making - classic case of frankeinstein
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 07:56 AM  Permalink
Who gave life to those forces? How did BJP grow from 2 to 200? It's because of the "I dont care a damn" attitude of the other parties.

When a writer was attacked by some Hindu Goons in Gujarat all the secularists were up in the arms .. When Taslima was attacked nobody even bothered to voice concern! (with an exception of a one line paper statement on page 12) ... The reason is pretty obvious and if soembody needs to change, it should first be the secularists and they shoudl start treating all the religions equally!

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RE:Its CPIM's own making - classic case of frankeinstein
by Y Singh on Nov 25, 2007 06:28 AM  Permalink
CPI(M)'s another HISTORIC BLUNDER - Tasleema case. How many HBs will this motorbyke party do?

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RE:Its CPIM's own making - classic case of frankeinstein
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Nov 25, 2007 02:21 AM  Permalink

* BANGLADESH IS JUST 50 KM AWAY FROM CALCUTTA!

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Shameless left and hypocritical congress
by Anurag Shrivastava on Nov 25, 2007 01:50 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

We can forgive BJP because it never pretends to be secular. However - the party founded by a rationalist Nehru has become and apologist for fundamentalists. The leftists seem to look more like mullah loving Samjwadi party members. Taslima stands for freedom of speech and right to live with dignity. When we protect her - we protect the rights of our children and their children in future. We give up on her and the fundamentalists will ask us to give up more of our freedoms - and in many ways they already are.

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RE:Shameless left and hypocritical congress
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Nov 25, 2007 02:26 AM  Permalink

Its this competitive Muslim appeasement by psuedos - cong, cpim, sp....lalu prasad, coupled with massive rise of jehadi/islamist rise thro' out the world and penetration into india because of laxity from psuedo intellectual/state craft/political parties HAVE RESULTED INTO THIS.

MAKE NO MISTAKE, NOW YOU WILL SEE RISE OF BJP. To a phenomenal level, even in West bengal.

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RE:Shameless left and hypocritical congress
by Lalu Prasad Yadav on Nov 25, 2007 07:02 AM  Permalink
Make no mistake, the communalist, obscurantist forces are on a backfoot in India! Muslim appeasement! What utter rubbish! Such a thing does not exist. It is just the OBSCURANTIST MURDEROUS SANGH PARIVAR THUGS SPEAKING WITH A FORKED TONGUE, like the slimy snakes they are!

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RE:Shameless left and hypocritical congress
by Anurag Shrivastava on Nov 25, 2007 01:33 PM  Permalink
I beg to differ Tathagata - BJP does not seem like a good alternative. They do not have a single leader with whom event a decent conversation cane be held except maybe an Arun Jaitely or Vasundhara Raje Scindhia. Its unfortunate it has completely lost its way. You may not agree - the Modi "kalank" is a dark clowd that is not easy to disappear. It will keeping back to haunt BJP in general, and Modi in particular.

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RE:Shameless left and hypocritical congress
by Seeker on Nov 25, 2007 07:02 AM  Permalink
BJP rise in WB?!!!
dream on dude....
though i am no supporter of cpi or congress for that matter but i dont think all bengalis are idiots like u to have such dreams.

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Not a single Indian media is talking about ''Sharia''
by QandA on Nov 25, 2007 01:42 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Taslima made a comment that "Muslim women stand no chance to progress under Sharia". 'Cos the odds are against women... We know how the sex craved mullahs rected to Sania's dress code. That was violation of Sharia.. We all know that there is temporary marriage in Sharia.

We all know that if a father dies then his assets are INEQALLY distributed to his girls than his sons under Sharia...

Under Sharia law non-Muslims may be subjected to Sharia Laws however it codifies the treatment of dhimmis in relation to the Muslim state and in cases of over-lapping jurisdiction. Dhimmis are distinctly second-class citizens in that they cannot serve in public office, cannot testify in court and must follow certain rules meant for living on Muslim land and under Muslim protection (such as paying the jizya). The jizya or tax is enforced on those who broke a treaty or attacked Muslim with no right (as a punishment) or required from those who ask for protection without enrolling in the army. The rules include privilege to practice their own religion, except for public demonstration of non-Muslim religious practices and the right to convert Muslims. This is still practised in Saudi Arabia...

In Saudi Arabia
And no matter how old they are, Saudi women need a "mahram" or a guardian -- a husband or close male relative if they are widowed or single -- in order to apply for and obtain a passport.

In Saudi Arabia none of women have the right to drive.

Aren't the Indian muslims luck 'Cos of Hindus?

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RE:Not a single Indian media is talking about ''Sharia''
by Raghothama Rao on Nov 25, 2007 08:13 AM  Permalink
indian muslims want to implement islamic laws with indian(hindu) freedom.
They want all previleges and freedom to implement islamic laws.As long as these seudo secular parties congress cpi cpim dmk continue encouraging fundamentalists the hindus in this country will be isolated.
When "Rytu Garjana" meeting was held in vijayawada by UNPA regarding farmers issue,there they mention Taslima Nasreen case and say minotities sensitive feeling will be hurt.Whereas the hindus sentiments are not hurt even directly attacking" Rama "in connection with Rama Sethu
Definetely theses parties will face wrath in the coming elections.

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RE:Not a single Indian media is talking about ''Sharia''
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Nov 25, 2007 08:38 AM  Permalink
They are politicians and know very well that Hindus are not united - for them all that matters is the number of votes they get!

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RE:RE:Not a single Indian media is talking about ''Sharia''
by Indian Pride on Nov 25, 2007 03:56 AM  Permalink

I don%u2019t wanna hurt anybody but it is required to reply Mr. Qanda%u2019s comments, with all my regrets and due apology.

Why dont you mention Mr. Qanda few more facts. In islam we respect womens while in your religion you have culture of disrespecting women by chir haran, by gambling a women like a stuff, by throwing them in fire to test the chastity of her, by sharing one women in five male so that no body could trace the fathers of her children, by stealing a women garments while she takes bath etc. etc. uncountable respect of women by your so called mythological heroes.

You are talking about inequality in distribution of property. Leave the modern Indian laws which are influenced by ibrahmic religion. Now tell me in your religion do u give any part of property to your daughter or sisters. NO. in sharia its very much balanced because it preaches for good deeds. a couple gets major part of property from male side while a slightly less part of it from female side that makes all equals. by they way Islam has given us doctrine to live life in disciplined manner while you dont have any code of conduct to spend your life. a man who praises the god ( well you dont have definition god even) is a Hindu, who poured in the wine also a hindu and when a man who gamble her wife is a man of honor. what great religion you have. dont you think every life needs a code of conduct to live within so an ideal society can be developed. That%u2019s why Islam came to the world. we dont pray Mohammad

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RE:Not a single Indian media is talking about ''Sharia''
by Truth BeTold on Nov 25, 2007 04:03 AM  Permalink
For all your blabber, we see what an ideal society Islam is. Look at Saudi Arabia for example. And what happened to the lady doctor in Pakistan who was raped and then victimized by the very people who follow so called Sharia Law?

In Saudi Arab recently, a women was sentenced 200 lashes. Her fault? She went out alone and was raped by your fellow Muslims. Don't preach others when you can't keep your own house clean. Islam is the most barbaric and pre-historic religion of all. Can you also exaplain some more on the Qurbani and stoning of Devil?

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RE:RE:Not a single Indian media is talking about ''Sharia''
by Lalu Prasad Yadav on Nov 25, 2007 07:13 AM  Permalink
ISLAM is the most HUMANE and RATIONAL RELIGION there is.

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RE:Not a single Indian media is talking about ''Sharia''
by Truth BeTold on Nov 25, 2007 08:31 AM  Permalink
You are as funny as the real Lalu Prasad Yadav.

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RE:Not a single Indian media is talking about ''Sharia''
by Lalu Prasad Yadav on Nov 25, 2007 07:05 AM  Permalink
AW, keep your unfounded opinions to yourself, QandA. Stop putting things out of the context in which they were meant to be viewed! You thoroughly expose your poisonous, hate filled interior!

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