I have seen the hate messages by Hindus and I oppose their language. That doesnt mean that I disagree with the content though. Like you said correctly, we can agree to disagree respectfully.
I personally believe this abusive language is out of frustration. Frustration from the government actions and the media. Hindus will say Congress actions and Muslims will say Modi Actions. Not one Muslim acknowledges that Muslim invaders plundered and destroyed temples in India. This is a historical fact. Not something invented by BJP/RSS. I myself have seen the Krishna Temple in Mathura covered by a mosque. Where do you expect the Krishna temple to be in Mathura or Mecca ? Same applies for the Ram temple in Ayodhya.
When Hindus ask that Ram temple be re-built and an alternate land is offered for the Babri masjid, muslims dont accept that either. So BJP makes use if this sentiments for political gain. BJP is not something that came from outside India. It came from within out of the frustration that Hindus felt under congress rule. The fact that BJP is not in power implies that many Hindus still support congress. But more and more bomb blasts by muslim extremists will cause Hindus to move towards BJP.
Did you notice that all the verbal abuse is by educated Hindus which obiously are pro-BJP and anti-congress ? As the education level goes up, this trend will continue and unfortunately we will see more abuse and polarization.
Periji, When you are biased and people like me notices you selective secularism, nobody can speak out in favor of you. Why you always one party? Why this time. Isn't your duty to spread peace in the society?
This sting may have more credibility, if it has done four years ago.
Why does this Mahesh Peri want to ignore motives. If we see the kind of revelations which Tehelka brings out every now and then, always it is the opposition which is targetted. So why not impute that they are receiving funds from the congress...or worse from the terrorists themselves masquerading as human right(or wrong) activists. Does he mean to say that it is only coincidental that not a single sting has targetted the congress. Or does he mean to say that there are no skeletons in the Congress's cupboard. So once some motive is suspected/insinuated and with some reason it naturally follows that the sting is not objective but was made in such a way to show everthiong in a negative way.
But then why should anybody respond to this Mahesh guy at all since he belongs to that great mouthpiece of congress...OUTLOOK.;) Now if this is a mere insinuation just read a couple of their issues and all will be clear even to the dumbest person. And what does that great Congress mouthpiece do in every issue...is it not attributing motives/insinuations all the time.
RE:Modi is the killer
by Danny Rathore on Nov 07, 2007 11:00 PM Permalink
same way as you belong to a group which carried out atocities and forcible conversion of Hindus in Goa
so, one should not blame a group for individual actions unless it was done as a group
RE:RE:Stick to the point
by imran patel on Nov 07, 2007 10:31 PM Permalink
Yes it does matter, because we are all equal irrespective of our beliefs. Read the constitution.
RE:Stick to the point
by talk cool on Nov 07, 2007 11:01 PM Permalink
but you read five times a idiotic book right which says there is only one god and all who follow others are kafirs and shd be killed
RE:Stick to the point
by Danny Rathore on Nov 07, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
that is why you guys want to have special rules for your religion people based on shariat....like 4 marriages, divorce by saying talak three times and so on....I think atleast one criminal shariat rules need to be applied to muslims.
so follow equal rules of landand then talk abt constitution
I dont care if you are in an arguement with someone such as Tathgata Mukherjee. But mind your words. We Hindus dont use the words Ram and Rape in the same sentence. That was a very cheap shot using such lousy language and shows your upbringing. Will muslims tolerate this if we use Mohammed and Rape ? If you dont stop this nonsense, be ready to get a discourse on actions of Mohammed.
RE:RE:Mind your language Ha ha hi hi
by imran patel on Nov 07, 2007 10:22 PM Permalink
PLease dont your self in a way that promotes open discussing and makes sense. Name calling is not a strategy. It dilutes your message. And please be respectful.
RE:Mind your language Ha ha hi hi
by Milind on Nov 07, 2007 10:24 PM Permalink
I guess I cannot blame you for this but your upbringing. As a Hindu, I would not like to use Mohammed and Rape in the same sentence either. Show some respect. You can still make a good argument by using a decent language. Infact more people will listen to you.
RE:Mind your language Ha ha hi hi
by imran patel on Nov 07, 2007 10:29 PM Permalink
Milind, You must be kidding or you are new to rediff. I have seen my fellow Hindus abuse and name my religion and our prophets in the most disgusting way.
I agree with your point though. We may not all agree, but we all can agree to disagree respectfully.
RE:Mind your language Ha ha hi hi
by Milind on Nov 07, 2007 10:45 PM Permalink
Imran,
I have seen the hate messages by Hindus and I oppose their language. That doesnt mean that I disagree with the content though. Like you said correctly, we can agree to disagree respectfully.
I personally believe this abusive language is out of frustration. Frustration from the government actions and the media. Not one Muslims acknowledges that Muslim invaders plundered and destroyed temples in India. This is a historical fact. Not something invented by BJP/RSS. I myself have seen the Krishna Temple in Mathura covered by a mosque. Where do you expect the Krishna temple to be in Mathura or Mecca ? Same applies for the Ram temple in Ayodhya.
When Hindus ask that Ram temple be re-built and an alternate land is offered for the Babri masjid, muslims dont accept that either. So BJP makes use if this sentiments for political gain. BJP is not something that came from outside India. It came from within out of the frustration that Hindus felt under congress rule. The fact that BJP is not in power implies that many Hindus still support congress. But more and more bomb blasts by muslim extremists will cause Hindus to move towards BJP.
Did you notice that all the verbal abuse is by educated Hindus which obiously are pro-BJP and anti-congress ? As the education level goes up, this trend will continue and unfortunately we will see more abuse and polarization.
RE:Mind your language Ha ha hi hi
by sam on Nov 07, 2007 11:01 PM Permalink
Milind, People have frustrations be it muslim or hindu. But many of the rediff comments are plain mischief or outright lies (see how many will post comments like, commies are chinese agents, muslims are terrorists) and I dont need to reiterate who are the majority who post here.
