RE:farak nahi padta
by Rajeev Kalra on May 11, 2007 12:26 PM Permalink
WEEL SAID AND "MAYA KI PROGRESS BHI MULAYAM HEE HOGI" AUR MAYA JI MAYA KI AISH KARENGI
In a large democracy like India, the leaders/government is elected by the common people and not selected. It does not matter who is the MP/Minister etc. The development of a country depends upon the understanding of a ground level situation by the leader whom we elect and not depend upon his/her education, vocabulary or English speaking ability. Once she pledges her service by knowing the common people's need, there are learned, english speaking, economists, IAS officers at his/her command to implement the decisions. Foreign investors or any investments does not depend upon the beauty/look and english speaking ability of a leader/minister...they only evaluate the agenda of the government and ability to administer the state.
In India, from day one of independance, political parties always played with the sentiments of common man to gain votes. Until a couple of decades ago, it was easy for them to garner votes by playing the cards of religion and casts, mainly due to lack of education.
For example, an illiterate politician like Laloo Yadav did not do any good or development for Bihar for almost 15-20 years and was very confident that he is the permanent CM for them -ultimately, people defeated him and installed another government with a sensible CM and the results are seen now. at the same time, when he was shifted to the Railways, on which he has absolutely no knowledge, could do a better job, since he was dependant on the advises provided by the senior officials/IAS officers of the Ministry.
However, as you know, this situation is slowly and steadily changing and people are getting at least the basic education to understand who is good and who is bad - I am not advocating the Mayavati is good or bad - they have a choice among the 4 - so this time they chose to give a chance to Mayavati - now it depends upon her ability to fullfill the commitments given to the voters.
Gundaism has to come to an end one day or the other - you cannot permanently bully people and stay in power.
So don't go by the look and feel of the elected representative - wait and watch how they perform.
RE:Mulayam OUT - Mayawati IN
by India fan on May 11, 2007 12:25 PM Permalink
Mayawati that joker, she will built a mall near Taj Mahal. That's what that douche bag is capable of.
I do have one question in my mind....can anybody answer...but pls answer truly...i am not related to any party..i am young literate individual who know what is right and what is wrong..my qestion is...
these are my true opinions and not at all associated with any party-politics..
Is Rahul Gandhi really that worst than Mayawati or Mulayam Singh...i mean he knows the technology..he is young...he might not be as greedy as other so called netas..and he carries the STICK with him which i feel is necessary to have control on "chut-bhaiyae" netas ...
And since he carries a history with him he might be more acceptable in international arena representing INDIA...
I know there is some form of diplomacy and politics..but ..again "is rahul gandhi that worse...or shud people give this young individual a chance..and what is wrong if we give him a chance..i mean to say...there are lots of "TOM DIC HARRY'S nowadays in INDIAN politics......"shud he be not given a chance to prove his leadership...
He has all the comforts of life and he has the money also..he can go out of INDIA and live life happily "What i feel it takes a lot of guts for an individual or for an example let us take his monther sonia gandhi...she knows her husband got killed..because ofpolitics..she shud have easily fled out of the country and live happliy and safely along with her children..but she stayed back..and fighting for the INDIAN people to give chance and bring again a good politics which is for the people..." I FEEL A PERSON WHO DOES NOT BELONG TO INDIA ORIGINALLY...AND IS A NOW A PREDOMINANT FIGURE ...NOT BECAUSE OF SOME GADDI but to give back something to the people..."shud be given a chance..i mean sonia gandhi or rahul gandhi or priyanka gandhi...are not like amar sing..or some raja bhaiya...or some goon..they are literate people..we INDIAN people are very egoist and our ego hurts if somebody tries to take advantage of it and it is those same netas that raise questions of SONIA GANDHI being ITALIAN..common guys..even ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER is not american...but he is governor in USA..and there are many cases..we INDIAN people think that we are very moderate but sometimes we have a very narrow way of thinking and that is netas like amar singh..and other tom doc and harrk wins the election and make indian democratic system a mockery
RE:RAHUL GANDHI
by roshan kummar kummar on May 11, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
what ever you say is correct but rahul has no experience of indian politicsbut has only inherited the gandhi name sonia is not here to good for the country but to taste power. when you have evrything it is power that peoplr want and she is looking for power not politics or money or good for the country. As regards security with Z secutriy at the cost of the country they are enjoying.........
RE:RAHUL GANDHI
by imran on May 11, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Rahul is just a new kid on the block....it will take some time for him to be accepted by people.....if he is sincere towards his efforts.....he is sure to shin for congress
RE:RAHUL GANDHI
by India fan on May 11, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
BTW Arnold can never become the president of USA. Rahul Gandhi has made a fool out of himself on more than a few occassions. He comes across like an educated fool.
RE:RAHUL GANDHI
by RDC on May 11, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Hi Cool:
I believe your honest question and your unbiased anlaysis deserve an answer. So here it is...
Rahul gandhi is just one example of how things can go wrong in a "vibrant" yet "fractured" democracy like ours. Vibrant because we are still an active and reasonably free democracy despite our termendous variances. Fractured because we are yet to rise above criminalisation, casteism, pseudo-secularism and other such ills that plague our society and put polity. Every day you'll see people going nuts on this blog, abusing each other's caste, region, religion...
In this environment, I believe folks like Rahul and or that matter every young politician like him from every other party should at least get a chance to prove themselves. We know how good or bad the oldies have been in running this country.
I also agree with the example of Schwarznegger. But the US is truly an internationalized society, we aren't even nationalized yet, what with the north-south, hindu-mulsim, cong. BJP and so many other divides.
RE:RAHUL GANDHI
by asd fg on May 11, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
Rahul Gandhi is not bad ..But he is a dumb moron who boasts of things which his family has not done. He got cow dung in his brain..He appeased Deoband Ulema..Then he spoke of Bangladesh.. He shud speak of redusing Population in India esp UP..and development issues.. At this age no body can be so dumb..
RE:RAHUL GANDHI
by shoe panja on May 11, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Good intent and good observation...trust me we Indians are the biggest hypocrites. Frankly speaking, we do not deserve good governance or visionary leaders. GOD SAVE INDIA...
u r saying that u know what is good and what is bad. but it seems that this is not correct. except for the dynastic connection, what qualities does rahul have? why do u want to give him a chance just because he belongs to nehru family? if he was not from the nehru parivar, no body would even notice him. sonia, rahul, priyanka r all mad after power. since congressmen cannot remain united without someone from the dynasty leading them, not only sonia, rahul and priyanka but the small children of priyanka have also become important and they just want to encash this situation. sonia is not only from italy, her father was also said to be member of dictator musolini's party.
she has already given us quatrochi, whom she has been trying to save by hook or crook from behind the scene. earlier she tried to become pm, though she did not have majority support. this time with 145 seats out of 540 seats, she is ruling by remote control with support from communists and others, who defeated congress candidates at the hustings. she also took support of dmk, who r soft towards litte, the killers of rajiv. earlier congress had fallen a government only on the issue of dmk ministers. she also took support of pawar, who was expelled from the congress party for raising the issue of her italian origin. she did not become pm because of various reasons, though she said that she is doing a 'tyag'.
when faced with office of profit issue (which originated because a congressman from up raised this issue against jaya bachan), she immediately resigned and got reelected from her pet constituency, wasting lot of government money in the process. no one else did this drama. later on all the parties passed a bill, declaring all those posts as being not an office of profit.
RE:RAHUL GANDHI
by on May 11, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
Hi Cool, Democracy is not so cool and does not govern by thoughts you have explained most of the times. It would be great Idea to have most educated becoming head of the states, but it does not work out in India Democracy. First, most of the people who vote does not think your way. Second, there is a difference between a leader and a charsimatic politician. Mayawati has won because pepole found her only strong leader who may take tough decesions, may be able to curb crime. Name any other leader in UP politics who is of same level excep Mulayam who was anyway set to out. If Mayawati is wise she will use this opportunity to come to National scene by doing somthing great for UP. All the Best to Her.
RE:RAHUL GANDHI
by RpSingh on May 11, 2007 01:26 PM Permalink
When you are giving your view you are only talking about yourself or people like you who are comfortable with life and understand very little about the difficulties of ordinary people. Rahul is like the monsoon frog he appears only when there is election, after that he will vanish back into his luxurious life, may be he will go to one of the resorts to recoup himself for the next battle.
There are other capable people in congress but all the resources is spent in promoting him.
Congress rule has made rich people richer, who do not want to share their wealth with the poor industrial labourers. They pay no wages and exploit poor people, congress is a mute expectator and they keep clapping from the side bench and FM will appear on TV when the sensex does well. All this has very little relevance to the poor people.
You look at Mayawati there is not much news coverage, no publicity, she spends her time with the general workers. I have seen people working with her. They have benefitted in her rule. There is sharing of wealth all the way.
You can win election if you can master the art of tranferring wealth from the rich to the poor and take the credit. In reality the rich do not vote and the poor vote on mass scale.
Your are mistaken if you have the view that Rahul is making sacrifices for the country. Infact he is making sacrifices to get the power and to satisfy his highest need- self esteem.
If you want to serve the country there are better ways of doing it . Do it without power.Mother terressa has already shown the way.
RE:RE:up poll results
by Ravi on May 11, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
Koi bhi aaye kuch pharak nahi parta yaaro. ek chor gaya uski jage chorni aa gaye. Don't take politics seriously. Khaao piyo batti bujho lagaao aur so jaao yaaro.
noone can save up from straving if they want that.they only know to increase baggers in their state by voting mayati and mulayams. now 1 million baggers will increase in the varanasi only.
RE:noone can save up
by RAJEEV GUPTA on May 11, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
People of UP have somehow developed taste for "GUNDARAJ" and are electing the Govts.accordingly.
RE:noone can save up
by Mahendra Kamble on May 11, 2007 12:18 PM Permalink
I cant control my words buddy ... I am sorry ... But you re a stupid person ... Mulayam is fine for you ... all gunda BJP is fine for you ... But Mayawati hurts you ... You are a helpless and sick mind person .... Who cannot accept growth of some other person ... You r like a crab .... jus sitting to pull some one down
RE:noone can save up
by mahendra on May 11, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
tell me any good thing that mayavati have brother.if u tell i will be really thankful of you.she is nationalist? no.she is a good administrator? no shes not.does she hav any vision for up? no she doesnt have.how can people lik you r defending you.its people lik you taking up 10 to 15 yrs back
RE:[object]
by Mahendra Kamble on May 11, 2007 12:37 PM Permalink
boss she can won election by here own... she can understand every factor of UP thats y she is there
RE:[object]
by Mahendra Kamble on May 11, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
Yes Boss ... a power ful dalit with proud You can call sarkari brahmin ... Same were brahmins where there was king rule
RE:RE:noone can save up
by Mahendra Kamble on May 11, 2007 12:34 PM Permalink
She has her own principle ... In UP she need to be there .. Here in Maharstra it hardly maters who rules the state .... Even if media shouts .... Daltits state is bad in Maharastra ... It haddly matters ... Here they are very powerful .. Here ppl dont need mayawati .. jus a photograph of Dr Ambedkar works .. ... Good Percentage of Dalit Doc, Engg .. etc But yes for north indian states they need a leader .. It has been proveen Dalits are better leaders ... They do not harm upper caste
RE:noone can save up
by khushi on May 11, 2007 12:26 PM Permalink
mayavati is the same like any other aprty leader no different. she will be out in the next elections and mulayam will be back. public memory is short for any body's misdeeds
RE:noone can save up
by reformer on May 11, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
yes mahendra, Maywati really had growth but for herhelf. People haven't fogotten how she sidelined Kanshiram and grab the control of party. In taj corridor case, what was her role, everybody knows it. So don't glorify her. She is similar to all nasty politicians.
In a large democracy like India, the leaders/government is elected by the common people and not selected. It does not matter who is the MP/Minister etc. The development of a country depends upon the understanding of a ground level situation by the leader whom we elect and not depend upon his/her education, vocabulary or English speaking ability. Once she pledges her service by knowing the common people's need, there are learned, english speaking, economists, IAS officers at his/her command to implement the decisions. Foreign investors or any investments does not depend upon the beauty/look and english speaking ability of a leader/minister...they only evaluate the agenda of the government and ability to administer the state. In India, from day one of independance, political parties always played with the sentiments of common man to gain votes. Until a couple of decades ago, it was easy for them to garner votes by playing the cards of religion and casts, mainly due to lack of education.
For example, an illiterate politician (was he a lawyer prior to politics?? only school/college education is not literacy)like Laloo Yadav did not do any good or development for Bihar for almost 15-20 years and was very confident that he is the permanent CM for them -ultimately, people defeated him and installed another government with a sensible CM and the results are seen now. at the same time, when he was shifted to the Railways, on which he has absolutely no knowledge, could do a better job, since he was dependant on the advises provided by the senior officials/IAS officers of the Ministry. However, as you know, this situation is slowly and steadily changing and people are getting at least the basic education to understand who is good and who is bad - I am not advocating the Mayavati is good or bad - they have a choice among the 4 - so this time they chose to give a chance to Mayavati - now it depends upon her ability to fullfill the commitments given to the voters.
Gundaism has to come to an end one day or the other - you cannot permanently bully people and stay in power.
So don't go by the look and feel of the elected representative - wait and watch how they perform.
RE:let us not do mudslinging at each other
by imran on May 11, 2007 12:22 PM Permalink
abe kuch kaam dhanda hai ki nahi......itna lamba chawda mail likhne baaith gaya hai
RE:let us not do mudslinging at each other
by Anusha R on May 11, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
Imran saab... itna gussa achcha nahi hai bhai... maine kuch guNa kiya hai kya... buss likh diya mann se..
RE:let us not do mudslinging at each other
by brahman on May 11, 2007 12:41 PM Permalink
thank you Anusha.. hi Imram..y r u getting annoyed..is it a crime to write a bit bigger message..
RE:let us not do mudslinging at each other
by Ram Sharma on May 11, 2007 12:57 PM Permalink
pyare imran lamba chawda mail hai ya chota, usase farak nahi parata. apako yeh dekhana chahiye ki usame kuch dam hai, ya sab galat hai. bina baat kisiki taang khinchana thik nahi.
GET READY TO VISIT TAJMALL NOW. Mayawati has succeeded because she made of fool of people, better than other parties. She formed parties to counter Brahmins and upper castes, now she has won only becuase of them!! She hasnt done much for Dalits either. Plus her scams are well known. In UP, only BJP, with a leader like Narendra Modi can do wonders. UP people shud ve voted for betterment...instead theyve been done in by a shrewd a clever lady like Mayawati. And congress, is more happy these days in supporting Govts from outside, or getting supports from outside, since congress president is also from outside.
RE:RE:MAYAWATI
by reformer on May 11, 2007 12:26 PM Permalink
Pls ignore kambale. He is starving BSP supporter from maharshtra. Now Maywati has won, atleast, he would get something. So let him enjoy her win
