Lets all of us demand to be converted to SC then Indian goverment will have no option other than reserting 100% seats for SC. No other caster ha? But this should be done in non-violent way.
A rich and settled community like the Gujjars, which have had leaders like the Late Rajesh Pilot, and his son the Wharton MBA graduate Sachin Pilot would be Gujjars ST's too.
Economically the Gujjars would be in entirety a Creamy layer caste and community. May be Gujjar leaders need to go to different parts in India to see for themselves what ST or a scheduled tribe infact really means, and who are the people, the class of people who need to ask for a ST status, are faar faar impoverished than the Gujjars.
Gujjars are rich and settled, they do not need ST status. It would be robbing really deserving and poorer ST's like the Meenas of their benifits if richer and wealtheir communities like Gujjars get the ST reservation.
It will start another trend of more and more OBC's agitating and rioting with demand for then to be downgraded as ST's and SC's.
It would then start the LAW of the MOB and not LAW of the LAND.
RE:A rich settled community does not qualify to be a ST tribe
by Marga Bandhu on May 31, 2007 09:42 PM Permalink
Blame it on Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar who created this reservation system. Sher-e-Pakistan was atleast man enough to ask for separate country, but this man had created the cancer which is spreading and will kill the country.
RE:A rich settled community does not qualify to be a ST tribe
by harish kandpal on May 31, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
This agitation is rubbish and politically motivated. What is the congress doing? How can the BJP control the mob? So many persons are stranded on Highways and railway tracks in this summer heat with their children. Who is to blame for their plight? Did the Gujjar comunity give any prior notice to the state government? Why can't they understand that they are to gain the benefit of 27% reservation for OBC from next year. The best solution would be the supreme court intervenes now and abolish all reservations so that we can work as Indian.
it is not logical stoping trains or creating nusance on road and rails. rather you should shoot the main culprit who is behin the curtain i.e a-u-a- .chore ko nahi chore ki ma ko maro. be brave and face the bull from his horn.aam public ko kyao marata ho.
RE:do not stop trains for reservation cause.....
by indian on May 31, 2007 08:19 PM Permalink
yain politician deshvasio ko aapas me ladwata hai or gaddaro ko godi me baithata hai. sansad par hamla karana wala inke ghar sota hai.
RE:Politicians ne jo Khilwad shuru kiya hai...
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 07:31 PM Permalink
Kya baat hai dubey jii, ak dum hath do ke peche pad gaye ho. Hota hai hone do, jata hai jane do, jalta hai jalne do, rota hai rone do....yaaro muzhko soone do
RE:RE:Politicians ne jo Khilwad shuru kiya hai...
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 07:41 PM Permalink
aare dubey jii, iss desh ki halat per kaun na shayar ban jaye
RE:RE:RE:Politicians ne jo Khilwad shuru kiya hai...
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 07:43 PM Permalink
Arre dubey ji, humari shayeri bhi India ke news ki tarah hai, thodi thodi
Looking at the larger picture, a dangerous trend is emerging in India these days : mobs taking control frequently with no fear of the law!! Gujjars in Rajasthan, Sikhs last week in Punjab, Dinakaran office in Madurai, Dalit killings incident and the the riots that followed in Nagpur...the list simply goes on.
The pattern is clear : all these violent agitations are mainly implemented by common men. People like you and me. Even though they are caught on camera, they know nothing will happen to them. Penetration of modern media, cell phones, etc has also helped in uniting such mobs.
We'll soon get into a civil war like situation if the law and order machine of this country is not corrected soon. No other country in the world mut be having so many sub-sections in their societies, languages, regions, etc.
We are a country faced with extra-ordinary problems but some very ordinary governments.
Violence, no matter what the cause might be, should not be tolerated.
RE:Another view
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
I like to share a good idea :- Government should appoint these agitators in Police, aur police to bana do watchmans. Koi panga nahi.
RE:Another view
by Narendra Patel on May 31, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
In my opinion every caste in India should demand themselve to be convetered to SC then India goverment will reserve 100% for SC. Hows that?
RE:Another view
by Gopal Krishna on May 31, 2007 08:38 PM Permalink
In the era of instant mobile communication and 24x7 news channels, news and rumours can spread at a rapid pace evoking spontaneous outburst of emotions and stroke tensions. It has a direct and causal correlation with the rise of the right and the increasing popularity of rabble rousers. If you promote hate, you can almost to certain that the same hate will boomerang to consume you. India has moved from being a democracy to mobocracy thanks to Bharat Jalao Party little saffron experiments in different parts the country. It is time for the ch*ddis to introspect and temper their agendas for the sake of the survival of this country. Just look at the hate unleashed by their supporters on these boards, it is unbelievable how much they have been brainwashed in those shakas.
Army should come into action and shoot all the people who creates trouble. We should not encourage this kind of cast based violace. If we allow now tommorow some other group will come into action.Govt. should take firm action againt these people. But unfourtunatly Our politicians has not the guts for strong dicision. The is the outcome of UPA govt. foolish dicision for vote bank politics. And Congress would be the master mind of this violance
RE:Rajasthan violence
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 07:23 PM Permalink
Ager apne desh ki army kam pad rahi hai to american army bula lo bhai, sab ka safaya hi jaae, balle balle ho jaye
Let%u2019s create a common group of people who are against these barbaric incidents. People who are not biased with their religion, region, culture and language can share their ideas and thoughts to make our country best in the world. I see lot of people are making good comments on these discussion boards and we can use it as collective knowledge. Share your incidents where you thought that we could do better. We can communicate initially through emails and then we will set up a website. I would like to see how many people are interested in this effort.
when Colloidal particles increase too much in Liquid the Entire Particles Collapse and settle down.....Similary when the CORRUPTION UNJUST Practices increase too much ...they become soo highlighted and Opposed and exposed that they are then Clamped....Infact I am happy with this Incident and I am looking forward to giving ST category to gurjars by GOVT.....so that It will Proliferate and THUS THE EVILS OF RESERVATION WILL BECOME MORE & MORE PRONOUNCED ...And thus Supreme court & Powerfull non federal bodies of India will voice againsst RESERVATION....So RASHID infact this very good and SELF CORRECTIVE INcident has Happened....LET this SPREAD OUT TO OTHER STATES AND COMMUNITY.....
