1930 undivided India population was 33 crore,wrote Poet Dijendra lal Roy in his one poem"Tettrish koti mora nahi kabhu khin ,hote pari din tabu nahi mora hin"We 33 crores Indian are not sick, may be poor, but we are very strong!!! So my dear all when we got independence in 1947 after divided two country we Indian was merely 40 crores population. If there was 10 crores Muslims balance 30 crores was Hindu, Sikh, Isai, Buddhist, Jain & SC/ST! Now our population is 120 crores, if there is 30 crore is Muslim balance is 90 crores Hindu, Sikh, Isai, Buddhist, Jain & SC/ST!
Dear Brother & Sister now you say if Muslim produced 8 to 10 children per family (I am not saying ke nahi Hai, Hai kuch aise family, but Hindus me bhi hai !! I hv a friend Dibbendyu Mukherjee, they are eight brothers!! Sr.Mukherjee was speaker Somnath Chaterjee's father's personal sec!!!!) Now u guess Muslim population can be 60 crores!!! There is only 30 crores Muslim population in India today!!How can you say any offensive talks about Muslim??? So Pls don't blame to only Muslim ,our system is responcesibility for it,we need education. I hv to see in Mumbai so many Hindus has above 6-8 children!!! So wts the figure saying , Ratio is same of both!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pere indep & post indepen!!!
Population is accordingly Muslim 30 crores, Hindu 26.4 crores,Sikh 6 crores,Buddhist 9.6 crores,Jain 8.4 crores, SC/ST 25.2 crores & Christian 14.4 crores .Total Population is 120 crores!!!!
RE:BJP think abt it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by anirban bandyopadhyay on Aug 26, 2007 10:50 AM Permalink
How many communal riots occurred in india and who initiated them??? Muslims.
In 1988, I was in school in malda, muslims put latrine into the durgapuja khichri, and the muslim guy was caught and communal riot broke out.
In 1992, after babri mosque demolition, 5 hindu monks were killed by muslims in malda. However, After live burning of 50 hindus in Gujarat there were no killings across india.
Muslims should be treated as Prophet has suggested. Either convert them to other religion or cut off their had. After all prophet was the son of allah so his path should be followed.
After looking at the comments from Muslims in this articles it is very clear that their religion teaches to spread like dogs, follow violence and cruel talks. Since majority follow it without sense, we need not classify them as humans but to some separate low level species. Whether other religion survives them or not depends on how bad they are. So the more bad they are more fast they multiply. As it is Kaliyug, they will prosper. What ever they do, history will know that it never had great people whom all can appreciate.
RE:9 killed in Hyderabad blast; 5 in police firing
by Abdullah on May 25, 2007 09:30 AM Permalink
1930 undivided India population was 33 crore,wrote Poet Dijendra lal Roy in his one poem"Tettrish koti mora nahi kabhu khin ,hote pari din tabu nahi mora hin"We 33 crores Indian are not sick, may be poor, but we are very strong!!! So my dear all when we got independence in 1947 after divided two country we Indian was merely 40 crores population. If there was 10 crores Muslims balance 30 crores was Hindu, Sikh, Isai, Buddhist, Jain & SC/ST! Now our population is 120 crores, if there is 30 crore is Muslim balance is 90 crores Hindu, Sikh, Isai, Buddhist, Jain & SC/ST!
Dear Brother & Sister now you say if Muslim produced 8 to 10 children per family (I am not saying ke nahi Hai, Hai kuch aise family, but Hindus me bhi hai !! I hv a friend Dibbendyu Mukherjee, they are eight brothers!! Sr.Mukherjee was speaker Somnath Chaterjee's father's personal sec!!!!) Now u guess Muslim population can be 60 crores!!! There is only 30 crores Muslim population in India today!!How can you say any offensive talks about Muslim??? So Pls don't blame to only Muslim ,our system is responcesibility for it,we need education. I hv to see in Mumbai so many Hindus has above 6-8 children!!! So wts the figure saying , Ratio is same of both!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pere indep & post indepen!!!
Population is accordingly Muslim 30 crores, Hindu 26.4 crores,Sikh 6 crores,Buddhist 9.6 crores,Jain 8.4 crores, SC/ST 25.2 crores & Christian 14.4 crores .Total Population is 120 crores!!!!
When read and observed carefully the actual pattern of entry of Islam into India has been from the northern borders of India. As per E Jawahardatham, reproduced here is ISLAM WAS SPREAD BY FORCE ONLY by Errampalle Jawahardatham on May 19, 2007 06:07 PM | Hide replies
ARGUEMENT: IF ISLAM WAS SPREAD BY FORCE, INDIA WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUSLIM COUNTRY.
ANSWER: THIS ARGUMENT TRIES TO MISLEAD AND CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT ISLAM WAS SPREAD BY PEACE.
THE FACT: 1. WHEN BABUR CAME TO INDIA, HE WAS BUSY ESTABLISHING HIS EMPIRE. SO HIS BUSY OCCUPATION DID NOT GIVE HIM TIME OR SCOPE TO CONVERT PEOPLE. BUT RECORDED THAT HE KILLED THOUSANDS OF KAFIRS DURING HIS CAMPAINGS IN INDIA. 2. HUMAYUN WAS UNLUCKY AND LOST HIS THROWN AND LIFE, AND THERE WAS NO SCOPE FOR COVERSIONS. 3. AKBAR WAS A GENEROUS SECULAR KING [A SEMI-KAFIR AS PER ISLAM]. HE FELT THERE SHOULD BE FREEDOM OF FAITH. 4. JAHANGIR'S MOTHER WAS A PRACTICING HINDU WOMAN. SO JAHANGIR WAS NOT INTERESTED IN CONVERSIONS. 5. SHAHJAHAN WAS A WOMANISER AND LEAD A LUXURIOUS LIFE. MOST OF HIS TIME WAS SPENT IN DRINKING, LICKING AND BUILDING MONUMENTS. SO NO INTEREST IN CONVERSIONS. 5. AURANGZEB, WHO WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST ISLAMIC CRIMINALS, CONVERTED MILLIONS BY FORCE AND HIS EMPIRE THOUGH EXPANDING WAS DISINTEGRATING RAPIDLY.
OVERALL MOGULS COULD NOT CONVERT ALL INDIANS NOT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT BELEIVE IN FORCE, BUT THEY FEARED THAT MORE AND MORE RANAs AND SHIVAJIs WILL BE BORN. PEOPLE WERE NOT INTERESTED.
BUT NAWAB OF BENGAL AND NIZAM OF HYDERABD CONVERTED MANY BY INDIRECT FORCE: THEIR COMMUNITY PEOPLE ENJOYED SPECIAL RIGHTS. LANDS, AND HIGH JOBS WERE GIVEN TO MUSLIMS. IN DISPUTES AND CLASHES LAW FAVORED MUSLIMS. IF A MUSLIM KILLED A NON-MUSLIM IT WAS TREATED AS LEGITIMATE. WHEREAS IF IT HAPPENED THE OTHER WAY ROUND SEVERE PUNISHMENTS WERE GIVEN.
IT WAS ONLY THE BRITISH, FOR THE FIRST TIME, GAVE INDIANS SOME KIND OF LAW, EVEN THOUGH IT HAD A COLONIAL SLANT, THAT PROTECTED PEOPLE IRRESPETIVE OF RELIGION.
IT WAS THE BRITISH WHO NEUTRALISED ISLAMIC DOMINATION IN INDIA. EVEN THOUGH BRITISH RULE DID NOT GIVE RIGHTS COMPARED TO THEIR OWN CITIZENS, BRITISH LAW WAS 1000 TIMES BETTER THAN THE EARLIER BARBARIC LAWS OF ISLAMIC RULERS.
BRITISHERS DID EXPOIT THE INDIA'S NATURAL RESOURCES, BUT THE CONDITIONS BEFORE THAT WERE WORSE.
This almost chronoligised data reveals it's entry, spread, influences and how it got influnced by the Indian conditions is clear Can any one ratify whether it is genuine or not???
Only this please to clear doubts and enlightenment. Thank you.
RE:Islam spread by force only...
by pragya srivastava on May 25, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
I want to contradict the view that Islam was spread by force. it was not the might of sword but ideas and doctrines of Islam that appealed to the masses. The first Muslim invasion took place in 12th century A.D by Mahmud of ghazni.he invaded India 17 times. one of his most famous invasions is that of attack of somnath temple. Religion was not the main motive behind any of the Muslim rulers. Economy played an important role. Many of the temples were plundered and treasuries were replenished. Moreover one can%u2019t ignore the fact that many indigenous people converted to Islam, they were the people from so-called lower castes who wanted to get rid of castes barriers and hierarchical system of Hindu "dharma" patronized by dharmashastic laws. One really needs to read in depth about Islam in order to clear their doubts.'SURA' section of quran sharif clearly states that a person is free to practice his own religion and no body could convert anyone by force. The fire of communalism is being fueled by some fanatics and other fanatics simply get sadistic pleasure out of it. I guess one should keep such hostilities on the back burner, fanatics should be severely dealt with. I don%u2019t belong to this religion but have a great respect for it. Allah (pbuh) never taught his disciples to quench their thirst of blood. one should keep in mind what Muslims have contributed. Muslim architecture is still revered today. One of the seven wonders of the world-TAJMAHAL was built by a Musl
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by pragya srivastava on May 25, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
built by a Muslim. Islam never divides people. There is no Brahmin, no kshatiya, no vaishya and no shudra.for Allah everybody is equal. India was vulnerable to invasions. So why do people particularly highlight Muslim invasions? India was invaded by the Portuguese, Dutch, English and many more. The so-called disciples of 36crore Hindu gods and goddess did not have the might or power to save their mother India (if at all it was there).wine and pompous life were exploits of rajput rulers. Whereas Islam prohibits intake of wine or liquor. I have read some of the above responses and it is really heart wrenching to know about their sick thinking. What role does religion play in population explosion? In that context i want to mention what ex RRS chief Sudarshan said.%u201D Hindus have right to multiply, because Muslims are multiplying and the day will come when they will vanquish us". I don%u2019t think so India will ever unite till such sorry states of affairs are at work. This thing needs to be rectified and uprooted for the overall development of "our" society.
Pragya. (I am a History student and hold an unbiased view)
RE:Islam spread by force only...
by Sathish Thoppay on Oct 14, 2007 11:47 AM Permalink
Pragya, The term "History student" raises serious doubts about your the views on history. First, History Part-I will deal about the rewriting of history by congress in 1930s for uniting (!!!) the nation or for the reason on minority appeasement. MY thought on %u201CNegationism of Hindhu-Muslim Conflict by INC%u201D: It all started immeddiately after the World-War-I. The Ottaman empire had lost the war to the British. The British which was the colonial empire of the yester-years, ruled the Turks after the war and ended the Caliphate. The Caliphate is like a holy lineage started immediately after the dead of Muhammed, by his disciples Uhr, with one aim to continue the great work of Muhammad, which is the spread of Islam. The Caliphate was dear to the muslims and hence the Indian muslims fought against the British to return the caliphate to the ottaman empire. Congress saw this as an excellent opportunity to bring Muslim on their side. It must be noted that the Muslim league has already formed during 1906 and it is too late for Congress to bring Muslims under one umbrella and still they tried, without understanding one important point.
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by STE on Oct 14, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
The motion that was started is called as the Khillafat movement. Congress failed to understand one important aspect of this protest, which is the Khilafat movement has nothing to do with the freedom struggle. The Khilafat movement, further enraged muslims to become biased towards their religion, rather than the nation, which ultimately lead to the division of India.
Khilafat movement went for 4 yrs from 1919-1923 and for these 4 years, muslims were fed with their religious beliefs, which continued to act as a catalyst for seperatian mind-set of the muslims. During this movement, the path that was chosen by congress was the %u201Caminity of the Hindu-Muslims%u201D throughout the history. They were not involved in altering the history of India intially, but rather, they were quiet on the ages of oppression, but this path. when muslims were not shown of their evil deeds, didn%u2019t gave them a chance to repent. Muslims felt more alienated in their own country, due to the continuous feeding of the religious text.
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by STE on Oct 14, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
After 1923, the Turks themselves ignored the Caliphate and the Khilafat movement died, but the fire that started within the Indian muslims burnt bigger than ever and with that fire, Muslim league, started demanding for more power within the interim government.
Congress, then did another bigger mistake, in order to bring the Indian muslims back to the mainstream politics, they started rewriting the history of India, where muslims were considered to be living peacefully with the Hindus and they were living in centuries long aminity. This was immediately taken a step futher by the next generation political wing, the left, to gain political mileage.
The radical humanist M.N. Roy wrote that Islam had fulfilled a historic mission of equality and abolition of discrimination, and that for this, Islam had been welcomed into India by the lower castes. If at all any violence had occurred, it was as a matter of justified class struggle by the progressive forces against the reactionary forces, meaning the fedual Hindu upper castes.
RE:Islam spread by force only...
by GRJ on Feb 17, 2008 08:33 PM Permalink
Taste terrorism....and ur History lessons will be complete......graduate from studentship to graduation.
RE:Islam spread by force only...
by prashant upadhyay on May 25, 2007 08:18 PM Permalink
Yoir views are based on incomplete study of Islam.Go to to others section and read more deeply about their seril attacks on Kafirs and the kind of hatred they have been tought to develop against non muslim. Your study also does not include teh kind of atrocitioes they have committed on humanity. Any try read a little bit of sociology too. How do they behave to non muslims in Muslim dominant places. And read more about strong kings like Shivaji,Rana Pratap,Sikhs, jats etc.
Read a little bit more about how hindus have kept their arms open for all religions like Parsis,Sikhs,Jain,Buddism too.And please note that having seculasr environment has been our strnghth and not aweeknes,
I am not denying that Hindu religion does not have any shortcoming like catseism etc.But try to assess the overall impact and understand the importance of philosfy of a particular religion.
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by pragya srivastava on May 25, 2007 04:29 PM Permalink
PS: It was a mistake from my part.KS Sudarshan is the RSS chief.(God save this counrty)
RE:Islam spread by force only...
by JGN on May 25, 2007 11:42 PM Permalink
Dear Srivastava, hv u read The Koran? You can get a free copy of the same at www.gutenberg.org Pl read and understand for yourself. I am an athiest and have no bias towards any religion. Also read a copy of The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks which is also an unbiased book.
