RE:Is iran supporting indian stand in kashmir, or any other issue
by SUBHABRATA DATTA on May 04, 2007 04:48 PM Permalink
iraq always supported us on kasmir issue.
RE:Is iran supporting indian stand in kashmir, or any other issue
by SRINIVASA GOWDA on May 04, 2007 06:19 PM Permalink
u sick naidu, think of the country not about urself or it guys. if so then dont enter here since its the security, pride of the nation at stake. how can a amrikan govt official write a letter telling us about the consequences if entering into deal with iran? is Indian deal dependent on amrikan. U it guy maybe dependent on dollars but not INDIA. Also India is going to buy a fuel which wont hartm international community but usa is selling the nuclear fuel. ehich menas India can use it for other purpose as well. If Iran was selling nuclear fuel and usa oil(which is not possible as they themselves are hidingly conquering Iraq) Then usa would have made the whole world against india and Iran. usa themselves played crooked game in early 1990 to overtake USSR. now its doing same here too.
HEY GUYS JUST UNDERSTAND AS TO WHY A SEPARATE BILL WAS PASSED IN USA ASSEMBLE RECENTLY. THEY FEAR THAT INDIA, A VERY STRONGLY GROWING ECONOMY AND ATTRACTING WHOLE WORLD'S ATTENSION IMMENSELY, IF ENTERED INTO DEAL WITH IRAN WILL BE A BIG BLOW TO USA AS IT WILL LOOSE HOLD ON MIDDLE EAST AND INDIA MAY SUPPORT IRAN IN FUTURE ON SOME ISSUES OR REMAIN AWAY FROM SUCH ISSUES. HENCE USA WANTS NOT ONLY DEAL BUT INDIA'S SUPPORT AS WELL SINCE ITS EASY TO MAKE OUR POLITICIANS BUCKLE UNDER PRESSURE AND USA TACTICS. ALSO WHY SHOULD INDIA HEAR TO USA BCOZ INDIA HAS TRADE WITH USA? THEN EVEN USA IS DEPENDENT ON INDIA AS MOST OF TECHNOLOGY RELATED R&D'S ARE BY NRI'S. AS FAR AS TRADE IS CONCERNED, INDIA HAS HER OWN RIGHTS TO DO TRADE WITH ANYONE AND USA IS NOT A BROTHER OR ADOPTED SON TO COMMENT ON INDIA'S STANDING. USA HAS NO BUSINESS IN INDIA'S TRADE OR INTERNAL AFFAIRS. IF IT WANTS TO WARN INDIA THEN IT WILL BE SPELLING DOOM FOR THEMSELVES. SO GUYS GOT TO KNOW AS TO WHY USA PASSED A BILL SEPARATELY AND ONLY FOR INDIA? THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE HELL EFFORTS TO REFRAIN INDIA FROM ENTERING INTO ENERGY TRADE WITH IRAN. NOW, AFTER TASTING DEFEAT IN THEIR EFFORTS, THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT PAKISTAN WONT AGREE FOR PIPELINE DEAL WITH IRAN AND INDIA. CROOKS ARE THESE B*****D AMRIKANS. GO TO HELL U B*****D AMRIKANS. FINALLY THEIR OWN MISTAKE IS MAKING THEIR LIFE HELL. HMM.. NOW INDIAN CONGRESS AND NDA HAS GOOD CHANCE TO ESCAPE SIGHTING THE LEAKAGE OF THIS LETTER AS INTERNAL POLITICAL PRESSURE. GET AWAY FROM THIS DEAL NDA NAD CONGRESS ELSE THIS DEAL WILL SPELL DOOM FOR OUR OWN COUNTRY. DONT BELIEVE THOSE WHO APPEAR TO BE FRIENDS BUT HAVE HIDDEN AGENDA OF RULING US. BE AGGRESSIVE. WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF INDIAN SCIENTIFIC AND STRATEGIST COMMUNITY, NDA IS NOT GOING TO SIGN THE DEAL. OPPURTUNITY TO STRIKE AT USA AND MAKE THEM BOW TO ORIGINAL 123 AGREEMENTS WITH THE NECESSARY CHANGES AS SUGGESTED BY INDIAN SCIENTIFIC AND STRATEGIST COMMUNITY
RE:Is iran supporting indian stand in kashmir, or any other issue
by Anusha R on May 04, 2007 04:52 PM Permalink
Pramod, use your commonsense..we are an independant country and have the right and privilege to take any decisions which we deem fit..we cannot be dancing to the tune of any other country, even if they are bigger, mightier or smarter than us and giving us outsourced business.. India almost sailed through the troubled waters and other are looking at it now for prosperity - we are not more dependant on a single supporting country. None can diktat terms to us as to who should be our friend and who should beour enemy..
RE:Is iran supporting indian stand in kashmir, or any other issue
by Anusha R on May 04, 2007 05:09 PM Permalink
Pramod...you are the biggest DUMP in the entire group... you mean US is doing a favour by outsourcing to India...you fool...they have no other go but to come to India for their business growth, they are shutting shops there and opening in India...keep yourself updated with news items about citibank etc.. don't just concentrate on posting stupid messages..
The real crux of the matter is this: as a nation do we want more of gas/petrol based fuel (and energy) or do we want more of nuclear energy. The first will be supplied if we continue to support Iran, but the nuclear co-op deal will fall thru. If we go with the US, petrol/LPG etc prices will keep rising (with its attendant downstream troubles of inflation leading to rising interest rates etc), but household and industrial power will probably be cheaper.
I suggest the parliament do a simple cost-benefit analysis from a long term perspective and close this issue once and for all.
All the other talk about US dictating to us etc is giving undue importance to the messenger - let's focus on the message and how we can use it to our benefit.
This is the price you pay for bending over backwards to please the Americans. Shyam Sharan and the PM have sold off our Nuclear interests to the ever treacherous Americans. The PM was probably eyeing the Nobel Peace Prize and Shyam Sharan was looking for a cosy post-retirement assignment. While Shyam Sharan has achieved his goal, the PM can only day dream about the Nobel Peace prize.
In the process the PM has sold our country's interests for a SONG. The PM is naive. He should have known better than to ignore the feelings and opinions of the nuclear Scientists. Let us face it each chairman of the ATOMIC ENERGY is 100 times smarter than the PM.
RE:US CONGRESS LETTER TO MANMOHAN SINGH
by Rajiv Alterego on May 04, 2007 09:43 PM Permalink
The PM is smarter than you think. Have you seen his resume? Check it out here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh You don't become RBI governor without being smart. It's you who cannot think of what is in our best interest. We have $18 billion worth of trade with the US (almost $8 billion surplus). Millions of Indians live in the US. Thousands of Indian students study in the US. Also, the US is the leader in science and technlogy. It's in our best interest to be their friends. Sometimes to establish such relationships, we need to give and take.
Replace the word 'India' by 'United States of America' and teh word 'Iran' by 'Pakistan'. How does the letter read? India is definitely not for sale. To hell with 123. Hope our government acts in the same spirit.. Kicks!
See the decision taken by the small country, Venezula who decided not to take IMF loan etc. Our Parliamentarians are also come out strongly against any type of economic assistance involved by the American Imperialism which is the most dangerous in the present world. We should slap these Americans and ask them to leave from Indian Soil as well. Yes of course, our people who are living in this dream country, has to take the courage to come back to India, the motherland so that they will never face any problem once we takes this extreme steps.
RE:USA biggest liar in the world
by ramachandran nair on May 04, 2007 04:46 PM Permalink
The US Law makers should initially take action to sever relation with Pakistan, who supports terriorism day in and out before advising India to sever relation with Iran. This dual policy of Amercia cannot be digested. We were keeping a distance with America but it all started during the term of Vajpayee as P.M.
RE:down with american imperialism
by Rajesh Vyas on May 04, 2007 04:47 PM Permalink
The communists are a bunch of JOKERS. They only pay lip service to people's interests.
Do you know they supported China against India in the 1962 Border War. They are traitors of the highest order. The less you talk about these jokers the better.
RE:[object]
by SUBHABRATA DATTA on May 04, 2007 04:50 PM Permalink
@ rajesh, can u prove this allegation? however, i can prove that vajpayee himself is a traitor
RE:down with american imperialism
by pp R on May 04, 2007 04:45 PM Permalink
Datta, U would never know what all good Vajpayee govt. has done to India .. U are not capable coz U are leftist and U can only oppose .. any move ... In fact Vajpayee is one of the est Foreign affairs diplomat India ever had and hence even the Congress govt had used his skills by sending him for the WTO seminar as head of the Indian delegation ... U guys only concentrate on how to destroy WB .. U guys cannot do any good nor can keep anything good ...
RE:down with american imperialism
by sudhakar narone on May 04, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
I think you are correct, thats why during Vajpayee tenure Pokharan II happened for which Narasimha Rao only dreamed of. And the leftist never able to stand on its own feet always take the crutch from those double standard Congress and blame them black and blue.
RE:[object]
by SUBHABRATA DATTA on May 04, 2007 04:46 PM Permalink
@ sudhakar, pokhranII has proved to be a backfire. we indirectly helped pakistan to become a declared N power. as 4 the 2nd part of ur post, please be sure that we stand on ur own feet. in fact the present govt at the centre too is standing on ur cruthes, not the other way round as u say.
RE:down with american imperialism
by SUBHABRATA DATTA on May 04, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
do u remember how advani & fernandes wanted to open up our air force facilities for them? we stopped that. remember how the present govt wanted to send force in iraq? we stopped that too.
RE:down with american imperialism
by G S Uppal on May 04, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
vajpayee govt never bent on its knees, it was the one which did nuclear test though knowing of the sanctions very well, and it stood the sanctions and US had to bend on its knees we all know. India never extracted that much flesh from US in its history as it did under the able guidance of Jaswant Singh being Foreign Minister. Pak was cornered from all sides during that period, and screws were tightened. Congress rules in India have always seen non-clear foreign policies.
RE:[object]
by SUBHABRATA DATTA on May 04, 2007 04:42 PM Permalink
@ uppal, u mention jaswant singh? that same person who accompanied a terrorist to kandahar? SHAME
Situation normal but all fouled up ! I have thoroughly enjoyed the readers' views. Pl understand that communication is the best form of resolving differences. If they have written, let us also communicate more effectively (especially when a lot of Govt. officials and peoples' representatives go and mingle with their counterparts in USA). The core issues are: 1.India does not see Iran as a terrorist nation;Iran might have angered USA on many occassions. 2.It will be foolish for us to align with USA in such La Mancha moves.Just watch Mr John Major's personal disconfiture when he perpetuated "WMD" story in Iraq. 3.If USA takes a short-term view of walking out of 123 or other economic coperations, let that be.We have ,in fact, suffered such wrong decisions in past.But with a rising India, USA will be a great loser.
At the end of it,the Indian political tamasha is very much worth enjoying.Who knows tomorrow, some cleric may order fatwah on the poor Congressmaen !
RE:SNAFUs and nothing else !
by Arun Tripathi on May 04, 2007 04:44 PM Permalink
Sanjay, good thought process. However, while I partly disagree with you regarding Iran. Whether or not Iran is exporter of terrorism, it's definitely a rough state and does not merit to have weapons of mass destruction. Please recall that recently Iranian President had gone on record when he said that Israel should be wiped of from the world map; the intentions are thus quite explicit. Further, it has been aiding the elements opposed to US both in Iraq and Afghanisthan. As shuch, India should prefer USA as against Iran; this, however, does not mean that Indian foreign policy be dictated by USA, we have well defined independent foreign policy and which is why we are talking to Iran. Some disgruntled BJP and Left Front leaders will always oppose government and let them continue do so.
These law makers of USA need to be answered firmly. I am sure that this letter does not necessarily reflect the policy of Bush administration. And if that happens to be the fact, we should be ready for temporary set back on nuclear deal, but I am sure US will show some wisdom in the matter and take the right decisions. After all we do not question them whey they maintain good relations with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia much against our interests at times.
