RE:UP poll
by Akash on May 03, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
hmmm so ppl in UP have no job other than election and you have a lot of jobs except for voting:-) Vote cause' it's your inherent right Patel.If you happen to be an NRI with no citizenship rights in a foreign country then come back and vote whenever elections are held,if you don't you have no right to even talk of regionalism,religions,linguistic affiliations,caste, creed or state. A right has been given to you Patel as much as it has been given to People of UP, if you don't vote,vote rigging takes place and someone votes on your behalf, if your strongly feel for or against reservation, if you feel strongly about anything , you can have it heard through the ballot otherwise everything else is nonsense. Take Care. Love to Gujrat from a UP'ite
RE:UP poll
by Akash on May 03, 2007 11:50 AM Permalink
No Problem Bro., We all get carried away, that's something each one of us is prone to. As far as corruption is concerned, yes it is there and leaders keep on changing till someone out of them learns that he was kicked out by the people only because he was making money. We have a right to kick them out, to change our leaders and so we do it, if everyone is corrupt perhaps a moment will come when they will get tired of being kicked out too often and become more decent in their approach. Afterall the largest number of MP's in the parliament are from UP but if they have anything to do for UP,it's nothing....therefore we should keep changing them and exercising our right. At least it is not a monarchy or dictatorship that there is just one corrupt leader ruling India and he is not brought to the ballot and lives his life in luxury,is overtly corrupt and is changed only when he dies and his son or some of his close accomplice takes his place. We have the music of democracy and a chance to dance to its tunes, and freedom is like your girlfriend standing beside you, take this chance,ask her for a dance and vote.Neither UP nor any other part of India is in such a hopeless condition as is perceived by many Indians, there are horrible places on this planet compared to which our Indian Democracy seems like heaven.
BJP had some really good leaders and after 6 years of BJP rule in the centre the minorites were also turning in favor of BJP. There was a serious debate in the minorites about supporting the BJP as a viable and better alternative to the Congress which has alwasy exploited the minorities. BJP would have got the support of the minorites but they handled the Gujarat situation so badly that it will take another 20 years before the minorities can think about voting for BJP. Its same like what happened in Punjab in 1984...People did not vote for congress for years...This is politics and BJP is better off being neutral than being saffron colored party.
RE:BJP Rajniti..
by Sahadevan KK on May 03, 2007 11:17 AM Permalink
Jajjan in Haryana and Khairlanji in Maharashtra are the examples of the development for lower caste.
Assault against Paster Walter Massey in Jaipur on 29.04.2007 for Christians;
RE:BJP Rajniti..
by s h on May 03, 2007 03:52 PM Permalink
Sahadevan,
You seem to be a convert using hindu name. You dont you adopt the name of the religion you have adopted. Sahadeva, the youngest of brothers of Pandavas , was most handsome, learned and brilliant man. You sound SICK. Muslims could not tolerate a cartoon drawn in Denmark and there was so much violence. You know what Hussain used to paint. If majority muslims harrass minority people. If in minority they all the time want to be appeased NO MATTER HOW BADLY THYE CONDUCT THEMSELVES. They are always a pain.
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by surajit sarkar on May 03, 2007 10:28 AM Permalink
mr.banerjee you are right.every indian you take a determination to make india a HOLY HINDU country.
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by digital on May 03, 2007 10:31 AM Permalink
Upper caste hindu country or lower caste hindu country ? will you take away reservation
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by digital on May 03, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
But still this question will be raised. Will it be a upper caste hindu country or lower caste hindu country? will you persisit with reservation or will you do away with it?
RE:[object]
by R A Sharma on May 03, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
surajit muslims r also living in this country for centuries. they r also bonafied citigens of the country. so u should not talk like that. however most of hindus r secular and they follow family planning. it will be better if most of muslims also become like most of the hindus.
RE:[object]
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 10:49 AM Permalink
Mr Digital, You people are gaining from the caste politics.You people are now playing inside Hindu sociaty.Why are you hiding all your religion's problems and superstitions and attacking Hindu community?We all know you have very good support from Hindu born deadly polititians.Caste is really an evil.But the war against it should come from a deserved mind.Who will hear if it comes from a barbaric minded culture?
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by digital on May 03, 2007 10:51 AM Permalink
No one is gainging. Everyone is losing from caste and communal politics. Blaming everyting on muslims wont make india any better. There are problems in the muslim and the hindu communities which need to be addressed. But not by abuse but by mutual respect and cooperation.
RE:[object]
by digital on May 03, 2007 10:38 AM Permalink
Oh Ok you mean "kill them all" policy ? How many can you kill ? Look at America it killed millions in Vietnam and in Iraq but lost at both places. Look at Russia it killed thousands in Afghanistan but lost. How do you plan to achieve victory by killing people. Can you explain?
RE:[object]
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 10:54 AM Permalink
Mr.Digital, Your community is now become a world headache.It is only after the petro dollar pumped from gulf to third worlds!The uprising of fundamental Muslims started and more and more terrerists started growing.In your community can you show the hartedness to other religions?
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by digital on May 03, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
Mr. Venu Gopal Dont worry about the petro-dollars. More than 15 million people died in the 1st and the 2nd world war. No muslim was involved in that. The muslim countries are only in picture because of oil. No one cared about them before they had oil and no one will care about them after they have oil. do you know that indonesia is the muslim country with largest muslim population ? but still they have Ganpati on one of they currency. Can India write write some islamic thing on their currency ? Do you know how many hindus work in gulf ? Has there ever been a massacare like it happens in India ?
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by Ashfak khatri on May 03, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
Very correct Digi, as I was in Duabi during Babri Demolition. Many Muslims took out on the strret. All were rounded up and sent to their respective homes. Here we have to wait for years to get justice even if the case is Prima Facie.Like Post Godhra.
RE:[object]
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 11:55 AM Permalink
Mr Sshfak, Have you ever went Kasi-the holi temple of these poor Hindus?(I visited only there)There are still more temples in India like these partial Mosques)The Hindu's are still bearing this shame!Is it matching with your so called hatredness in Gulf?
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by Ashfak khatri on May 03, 2007 12:55 PM Permalink
Mr.Venue (Change) Go Pal, I said the Muslims were packed away to their respective countries so as to not offend any Hindus in Dubai. If I get a chance I will also visit Kashi. So far I have been to Dwarka.
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by American on May 03, 2007 11:25 AM Permalink
It will take thousands of thousands of thousands years to kill them, until that time end of world.
RE:[object]
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 11:31 AM Permalink
Mr. Digital, You are telling that the Ganapati is a big incident!See, you were any time in Oman?We can see Hindu temples there!It is payback of reputation!The nunber one NRI industrialist from Gujrat(you may be sick now)is the king maker of Oman's today's progree!Probably the Omani's may be less adament than you Indian muslims.Then about Indonesia and other Muslim countries.First of all you just realise about the great Indian culture!It was spread all over the world expecially eastern sides of India.Buddisum and Jainisum are originated from it.Out of 48 ancient religions originated in human knowledge,only Hinduisum is existing presently.After the interpretations from the elite groups from Hindus the caste culture originated.The hindu's always welcommed novel thinking and they never hesitated to impliment it in life.It never hurts the nature it loves all God's creations.The Hindu never attacks any or trying to impliment their views to anyone forcefully like Muslims and Christians.If other countries still honouring Hindu thoughts- means it is because of their gratitude not sympathy!Better you get more knoledge in Hindu history and take atleast some good parts.
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by Akash on May 03, 2007 01:51 PM Permalink
I happen to be a Hindu and I know digital,you are a patriot with the messages you have written in the beginning and are being compelled by some ill-gotten people who in no way in their character and speech are like Hindus saying bad things to you, they not only offend you as a Muslim and an Indian but also offend me as a Hindu and an Indian.But don't get carried away by what they say. All those in India who abuse and bash people in the name of religion,caste,creed,linguistic-affiliation,or regionalism actually are carrying out the balkanization of India,it's a shame to them whichever community they belong to, to abuse others and think what great deed they do, for them the community comes first the country comes second or third not realizing that if you attack and abuse a community, you not only do a great disservice to the country but to your own community itself, seems a few hindus,muslims and christians,sc/st/obc, brahmins,casteists, linguistic-regional affiliates and other social groups comes out here to represent their entire community and bash others thinking what a great deed it is to do so. It seems patriotism has taken a back seat for them and it's all about community kinship, nations can be compromised at all costs for such people. Those who are abusing other on this message forum in the name of religion,caste,creed,language or any other social group....STOP BALKANIZATION OF INDIA!!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by chaman bhati on May 03, 2007 10:10 AM Permalink
Dear Banerjee, you are sitting in america and making such fooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolish comments is a miracle. If u educated people think in this way, then the future of india is definately dull. Better u keep urself outside india. Because u are taking ur muslim brothers as ur enymies. If u really think that way then its really impossible to see a peacefull india
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by kraft on May 03, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
So Chaman Bhati, The other alternative is supporting anti-national Parties like the Congress and Commies [who for votes are creating many Pakistans and Bangla Deshes Inside our Country]. Are u blind in not seeing this?
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by digital on May 03, 2007 10:20 AM Permalink
Mr. kraft .... what kind of witch-kraft is this? Why are you trying to divide India? Indian muslims have always been loyal to the Indian nation. Dont you see that the list of "param veer chakra" also contains muslim names? Cant you see how the whole nuclear and defence programme of India has been developed by a muslim? Dont you see how muslim players but their best when they are with their other brothers in the field of cricket ? Why are you trying to poison the country ?
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 10:35 AM Permalink
Mr.Digital, You are proudly saying Muslims also got Param veer chakra...!Is that only Hindu's burden to protect India?Why you very less people joined army after indipendace?It is only to avoid killing "brothers" each other..Can you oppose?All are aware that some good patriotic Muslim people got the highest military rankings.... nobody ignoring that.But at the same time you just imagine how much problem your so called sociaty did against your own mother land!(Not to Hindustan but to India)If taking that in account the anybody can understand the culture of Hindu sociaty!!!
RE:[object]
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
Do I need to tell?If you were not in India since last 25 years..then I will tell.Let us start from Kashmeer.
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by digital on May 03, 2007 11:17 AM Permalink
So the people of kashmir are fighting to become muslims? they are alreay muslims. kashmir is not a religious problem it is a political problem. Do you call LTTE as hindu problem or a political problem?
RE:[object]
by R A Sharma on May 03, 2007 11:25 AM Permalink
digital it is wrong to say that kashmir is a political problem. it is purely religious problem. muslim terrorist there kill innocent hindus and sikhs, many of them are not kashmiri. had not pakistan attacked kashmir after independence, there would not have been any problem. sri lanka problem has nothing to do with religion. ltte general fights with the sri lankan army.
RE:RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
Let us ask the Kasmiri Pandits who are still living in streets of Delhi and different parts of India!
RE:[object]
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
Oh you changed the stand?Then you are lucky!There is 60 percent reservation for you people!Let us see how you are protecting us from your so called "brothers"
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by srinivasrao r on May 03, 2007 11:24 AM Permalink
well said Mr.kraft. Indian muslims have always been loyal to the Indian nation.whenever pakistan defeated india in cricket match our loyal indian muslims celebrating and distributing sweets. Musilms are loyal? he he he ? Shame on you.
RE:RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by surajit sarkar on May 03, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
muslim people are main culprit.they bring terrorism in india.not only terrorism but also many anti social activities
RE:[object]
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
The basic structure of Muslim religion is on slavery,the men and women were sold like commodities that time.The rich always leading the way.The entire community impossed with inhuman laws to controle the masses.Beheading cutting organs etc are still there.Still the majority of anti social people are from which community?Comparing with other community, who are more illitrate?
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by vidya chivukula on May 03, 2007 10:35 AM Permalink
digital you are in digital world. Lets get to real world where 90% of the people involved in theft, robberies, smuggling, underworld gangs, extortion...........etc are from this great community. This is a community which cannot coexist with people from other faith. i have not seen one muslim majority country which is really secular. by speaking about miniscule population, u are trying to hoodwink the people
RE:[object]
by digital on May 03, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
Well do you the hindu population in Dubai ? They are more safe than muslims in India. How many hindus have been killed in Dubai? Do you know the most powerful muslim country is Turkey and yet it has a secular infrastructure ?
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by R A Sharma on May 03, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
digital like turkey why indian muslims are not secular. why do they vote on communal basis as directed by some powerful moulana of the area? if muslims also become secular like dr abdul kalam, khan abdul gafar khan, abul kalam etc, and also follow family planning, the situation will be much better off.
RE:[object]
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 10:40 AM Permalink
Dear Ganesh, You are right!It is only because of these activities of Muslims,the entire world supported Bush!We all know Bush was not right.But comparing the two sins the Muslim terrarisum is worst than any!
RE:[object]
by R A Sharma on May 03, 2007 11:18 AM Permalink
ganesh & venu what bush did in iraq was wrong. entire world did not support him. usa attacked iraq without getting consent from un. usa lied that the attack was for destroying arms of mass destruction, which was not found there. though i do not like most of indian muslims voting like sheeps on communal ground and not following family palnning, but that does not mean that what bush did to iraq was correct. it was also a terrorist activity. but who can go against usa? might is right.
RE:[object]
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
Dear Sharmaji, I have the same openion.We are not blindly opposing anyone.We are pointing some facts..unfotunately those facts admitted by very few!
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by digital on May 03, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
But the ground reality is that Bush was not able to change anything? Did he ? He lost miserably. He only played into the hands of extremists. The world wanted to get rid of Islamic extremism and Bush only made it worse.
RE:RE:[object]
by digital on May 03, 2007 11:50 AM Permalink
Mr Jairaj, history is witness to the fact that wars are not won on body count. 100 million muslims will be born in one year so thats not a problem. the problem is that bush has lost control over the region and now other coutries in the region are strongly defying him.
RE:RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by digital on May 03, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
Even Americans are now telling that Bush has lost in Iraq and has to withdraw...what are you talking about dude ?
RE:Request: vote for the pan-Indian parties
by vijay vikram on May 03, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
its bcos of politics... democrats will loose again there in US
I my 32years of age i have Never Voted..... Is there a way out? Parliamentary democracy is too entrenched in India, and cannot be altered easily. In fact, there is no need to alter democracy's basic structure. Let single-member territorial constituencies continue to elect members to the legislatures and Parliament. But we should consider the idea of electing the chief ministers and the prime minister for a fixed term, in a one-person-one-vote direct election. Let the chief ministers and the prime minister choose one half of their ministers from members of the legislatures or Parliament and the other half from outside. To prevent dictatorial tendencies, let us throw in a two-term limit for the chief minister and prime minister.
I know I am thinking out of the box. That is because my prime concern is how to rescue governance from the chaos created by our political parties.
RE:Indian Goverment
by Akash on May 03, 2007 09:40 AM Permalink
You should go out and vote first otherwise those who rig votes, will vote on your behalf...this problem is there throughout the country even with tight security, some miscreants get away with it. You should go early in the morning and vote when there is not much rush. I was feeling lazy today and felt like missing this one but it was a splendid morning, not much rush and took me just a couple of minutes and I returned back home. It's your right and someone else can misuse it, I had missed voting in 3 earlier elections but I went this time and It wasn't such a headache as it is perceived by many people. It actually gives you a feeling of content, even if the party I have voted for loses, no problem...at least I voted and exercised my inherent Right. Do go out and vote when elections take place in your area or at the Union level. Take Care.
RE:Indian Goverment
by Ankur Banthia on May 03, 2007 09:51 AM Permalink
The one who does not vote has no right to give speech for the democracy, government etc. You and people like you are reason of the present conditions.
RE:Indian Goverment
by Abhishek Banerjee on May 03, 2007 09:34 AM Permalink
You are 100% right. It is impractical to ask one party to win 50% of seats.
I just voted an hour back. Splendid experience.You should go early to vote when there is not much rush.This is the first time I've ever voted since from the time I turned 18 there have just been 3 elections both of which I missed- the union elections,the previous state elections and then the municipal elections but it feel good once you go out and vote. Everyone,go out and vote and go early in the morning when there is not much rush.
RE:RE:Splendid. I just voted an hour back
by Abhishek Banerjee on May 03, 2007 09:28 AM Permalink
Congrats ... How I envy you... I have never gotten to vote... I am in the US now, so I can only watch from a distance. I am a political junkie and a BJP supporter. That and besides, I am from Bengal, where there is no point in voting anyway... :(
RE:Splendid. I just voted an hour back
by Akash on May 03, 2007 09:46 AM Permalink
Well the next time elections take place in Bengal do try to come back home and vote, that an inherent Right which all of us have and we should exercise it. And well at the Union level the entire country get's a Chance to vote, it's a festival of Indian Democracy and one shouldn't miss it and even if one does, one should try his/her very best to come and participate in it whenever they get a chance.
RE:Splendid. I just voted an hour back
by Akash on May 03, 2007 09:25 AM Permalink
not both of which, it's out of which-serious grammatical error but well who cares, did not get sleep in the night so am bound to make mistakes today
RE:hope
by Sai Puducode on May 03, 2007 09:24 AM Permalink
Save Hindus & their temples before extinction! http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?qa23124&1 http://www.savetemples.org/images/pdfs/flye r_for_chicago.pdf
RE:hope
by Venu gopal on May 03, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
It is not complete!There are very large reports from all over the country expecialy from south!We the impotent Hindus are sleeping...
RE:hope
by Ashfak khatri on May 03, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
so wake up now and understand the policy of divide and rule and vote for secular India.Make India great. Jai Hind
